So what is he general concensus on length of said screw...bolt...thing with a pointy thread...and a hexagon head?
Let's get the nomenclature correct first (it also helps to get names correct when shopping so you get the correct items without any fuss.) What you need is galvanised coach screws.
If you are purchasing the screws in Oz about the longest you will get are 200 mm ones. I have these but would prefer longer ones. As others have said you can get longer ones from the USA (but call them lag screws when ordering there.)
Lag bolts.....that is what they are called in the link in my above post.....https://www.boltdepot.com/Product-Details.aspx?product=1012
I have seen 200mm long galvanised coach screws in Bunnings in an Adelaide north eastern suburb.
so you would prefer longer ones....is that because the 200mm long coach screws have faied you??
PeterD said
10:52 PM Oct 17, 2016
Dickodownunder wrote:so you would prefer longer ones....is that because the 200mm long coach screws have faied you??
They have not failed yet, only used them a few times. I'm not looking forward to using them in sandy soil.
Dickodownunder said
01:10 PM Oct 18, 2016
PeterD wrote:
Dickodownunder wrote:so you would prefer longer ones....is that because the 200mm long coach screws have faied you??
They have not failed yet, only used them a few times. I'm not looking forward to using them in sandy soil.
Ok thanks....I am considering buying the 300ml long screws from the USA.
Cupie said
07:54 PM Oct 18, 2016
PeterD wrote:
Dickodownunder wrote:so you would prefer longer ones....is that because the 200mm long coach screws have faied you??
They have not failed yet, only used them a few times. I'm not looking forward to using them in sandy soil.
I made up a few 'spade' shaped pegs out of heavy gauge sheet metal for sand. Haven't tried them yet though.
Can't find the receipt for my 300mm Galv Coach screws ... Got them from a local Nut & Bolt retailer.
-- Edited by Cupie on Wednesday 19th of October 2016 09:25:25 AM
Hey Jim said
10:57 PM Oct 18, 2016
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Just weld a longer bolt to coach screw . I use 13mm or so . If you know any Lineworkers for local elect authority ? They'll help you out .. Used ones of course !! Lol
Yep,
Long and thin go's to far in. Short and thick, does the trick.
I use a Star picket as a cradle to weld on top of. (The hex head clamps over the end of the picket), a set of wooden work horses. Cut the heads off 200mm coach bolts,50mm below and use the heavy 13mm x 1000mm gal rods off the good old hills hoist. When done I just run a angle grinder over the welds and paint with cold gal.
Jim
Long Weekend said
12:28 AM Oct 19, 2016
For those like Geoff Dickodownunder who are considering buying coach screws from the US I rechecked my buy on eBay a year ago for the seller's details.
The seller was: moparman0110 (the link for the actual item was a mile long to type).
For 3/8 x 12 inch lag screws in a pack of 30 today's costs are:
Galvanised AUD $55.12 plus postage of $52.16.
Zinc plated AUD $49.87 plus postage of $49.94.
I bought the zinc plated ones but given the slight increase in price I probably would go for the galvanised today.
Note the difference in postage for galvanised and zinc plated - does galvanising add weight?
The screws offered by the seller mentioned earlier may be cheaper than the eBay ones but eBay arrange the shipping/posting which saves time and messing about.
Now, if only the exchange rate for Oz/US dollars would head back to parity!
It would have been nice to find an English supplier for cheaper postage, plus theirs are metric.
By the way, I was aware of welding sections together to make longer threads but not only do I not have the equipment but I cannot weld!
Murray
-- Edited by Long Weekend on Wednesday 19th of October 2016 12:39:02 AM
Dickodownunder said
07:23 AM Oct 19, 2016
Long Weekend wrote:
For those like Geoff Dickodownunder who are considering buying coach screws from the US I rechecked my buy on eBay a year ago for the seller's details.
The seller was: moparman0110 (the link for the actual item was a mile long to type).
For 3/8 x 12 inch lag screws in a pack of 30 today's costs are:
Galvanised AUD $55.12 plus postage of $52.16.
Zinc plated AUD $49.87 plus postage of $49.94.
I bought the zinc plated ones but given the slight increase in price I probably would go for the galvanised today.
Note the difference in postage for galvanised and zinc plated - does galvanising add weight?
The screws offered by the seller mentioned earlier may be cheaper than the eBay ones but eBay arrange the shipping/posting which saves time and messing about.
Now, if only the exchange rate for Oz/US dollars would head back to parity!
It would have been nice to find an English supplier for cheaper postage, plus theirs are metric.
By the way, I was aware of welding sections together to make longer threads but not only do I not have the equipment but I cannot weld!
Murray
-- Edited by Long Weekend on Wednesday 19th of October 2016 12:39:02 AM
Thank you for that link Murray, I will check it out tonight when I have a bit more time.
PeterD said
10:54 AM Oct 19, 2016
Long Weekend wrote:
The seller was: moparman0110 (the link for the actual item was a mile long to type).
Murray
You don't type addresses, it's too easy to make a typo and then the link does not work. You click into the address bar on your browser (one click only) and that highlights the address. You then right click into the bar and select copy. You then have the address copied to paste into your link insertion process.
Long Weekend said
12:48 PM Oct 19, 2016
Thanks Peter. I'll try that next time.
I have often wondered how people put in the links.
Murray
Phil C said
12:14 PM Oct 20, 2016
Gday trevmac and welcome to our happy crowd of nomads.
I use 200mm Hex heads (from bunnings) to great effect, I recon 300mm may be an overkill.
I use a Milwaukee rattle gun to seat them. So far they have never departed from mother earth.
Cheers
macka17 said
05:22 PM Oct 20, 2016
If you highlight any text item on page. then right click it.
It'll normally come un "Google search for that item?"
Hit yes and it'll go there.
With those screw pegs.
I just have a set or so of hand Auger wood bits of different sizes.
with hand winder and/or T bar handle.
Look around markets and old machinery/tool stores.
They go into any ground and wind out easily too.
Just grease or oil them and no rust.
Bolts don't really have the"thread " area, to get a good grip.
Chip board bolts would be better.(Longer/deeper threads)
just weld a couple together, with one head ground off
and threads aligned b4 welding.
Phil C said
10:40 AM Oct 21, 2016
Hi again, someone mentioned sandy soil. I have a few of these as they are expensive. They are called bluepeg and look like over sized screws (very wide thread) they are the ducks guts for sand.
The metal ones are strong and light & have a 17mm hex head. The plastic ones are only good for soft ground. I snapped a couple with the Makita drill in hard ground.
Phil
KevKim37 said
03:23 AM Nov 28, 2016
I have been using these 250 mm Batten/Landscaping Screws for 3 yrs with a Gal Washer under the head to hold through the Rope Spring. Admittedly they have an Female Allen Key drive which I use a 14 volt Makita Battery Drill with the appropriate Allen Key Drive Adaptor. These screws will Drill into just about any type of ground except Hard Rock and Concrete and have yet to wear one out doing so.I gave all my steel pegs away and still have a Doz Long Plastic Pegs for Loose sand conditions. They usually sell for approx $1.80 to $2.50 each and come in shorter lengths. i picked this type up from another Grey Nomad at Greens Lake in 2013.
Cheers Kev.
Cupie said
08:54 AM Nov 28, 2016
KevKim37 wrote:
I have been using these 250 mm Batten/Landscaping Screws for 3 yrs with a Gal Washer under the head to hold through the Rope Spring. Admittedly they have an Female Allen Key drive which I use a 14 volt Makita Battery Drill with the appropriate Allen Key Drive Adaptor. These screws will Drill into just about any type of ground except Hard Rock and Concrete and have yet to wear one out doing so.I gave all my steel pegs away and still have a Doz Long Plastic Pegs for Loose sand conditions. They usually sell for approx $1.80 to $2.50 each and come in shorter lengths. i picked this type up from another Grey Nomad at Greens Lake in 2013.
Cheers Kev.
Just when you've got a problem solved, along comes an even better idea.
I've got a massive pile of (heavy) pegs that I have added to over the years as another idea appears & I find spares lying around campsites. Perhaps it's time that I retired lots of them to the shed .... and got a few of these landscaping batten screws.
Lag bolts.....that is what they are called in the link in my above post.....https://www.boltdepot.com/Product-Details.aspx?product=1012
I have seen 200mm long galvanised coach screws in Bunnings in an Adelaide north eastern suburb.
so you would prefer longer ones....is that because the 200mm long coach screws have faied you??
They have not failed yet, only used them a few times. I'm not looking forward to using them in sandy soil.
Ok thanks....I am considering buying the 300ml long screws from the USA.
I made up a few 'spade' shaped pegs out of heavy gauge sheet metal for sand. Haven't tried them yet though.
Can't find the receipt for my 300mm Galv Coach screws ... Got them from a local Nut & Bolt retailer.
-- Edited by Cupie on Wednesday 19th of October 2016 09:25:25 AM
Yep,
Long and thin go's to far in. Short and thick, does the trick.
I use a Star picket as a cradle to weld on top of. (The hex head clamps over the end of the picket), a set of wooden work horses. Cut the heads off 200mm coach bolts,50mm below and use the heavy 13mm x 1000mm gal rods off the good old hills hoist. When done I just run a angle grinder over the welds and paint with cold gal.
Jim
For those like Geoff Dickodownunder who are considering buying coach screws from the US I rechecked my buy on eBay a year ago for the seller's details.
The seller was: moparman0110 (the link for the actual item was a mile long to type).
For 3/8 x 12 inch lag screws in a pack of 30 today's costs are:
Galvanised AUD $55.12 plus postage of $52.16.
Zinc plated AUD $49.87 plus postage of $49.94.
I bought the zinc plated ones but given the slight increase in price I probably would go for the galvanised today.
Note the difference in postage for galvanised and zinc plated - does galvanising add weight?
The screws offered by the seller mentioned earlier may be cheaper than the eBay ones but eBay arrange the shipping/posting which saves time and messing about.
Now, if only the exchange rate for Oz/US dollars would head back to parity!
It would have been nice to find an English supplier for cheaper postage, plus theirs are metric.
By the way, I was aware of welding sections together to make longer threads but not only do I not have the equipment but I cannot weld!
Murray
-- Edited by Long Weekend on Wednesday 19th of October 2016 12:39:02 AM
Thank you for that link Murray, I will check it out tonight when I have a bit more time.
You don't type addresses, it's too easy to make a typo and then the link does not work. You click into the address bar on your browser (one click only) and that highlights the address. You then right click into the bar and select copy. You then have the address copied to paste into your link insertion process.
I have often wondered how people put in the links.
Murray
I use 200mm Hex heads (from bunnings) to great effect, I recon 300mm may be an overkill.
I use a Milwaukee rattle gun to seat them. So far they have never departed from mother earth.
Cheers
It'll normally come un "Google search for that item?"
Hit yes and it'll go there.
With those screw pegs.
I just have a set or so of hand Auger wood bits of different sizes.
with hand winder and/or T bar handle.
Look around markets and old machinery/tool stores.
They go into any ground and wind out easily too.
Just grease or oil them and no rust.
Bolts don't really have the"thread " area, to get a good grip.
Chip board bolts would be better.(Longer/deeper threads)
just weld a couple together, with one head ground off
and threads aligned b4 welding.
Cheers
www.bluescrewtentpegs.com
OOOpppsss thanks for the correction..
We havnt used them for ages but still carry a few.
Cheers
They look like they work really well.
The videos are quite impressive. I might grab a couple for sandy areas.
The metal ones are strong and light & have a 17mm hex head. The plastic ones are only good for soft ground. I snapped a couple with the Makita drill in hard ground.
Phil
Cheers Kev.
Just when you've got a problem solved, along comes an even better idea.
I've got a massive pile of (heavy) pegs that I have added to over the years as another idea appears & I find spares lying around campsites. Perhaps it's time that I retired lots of them to the shed .... and got a few of these landscaping batten screws.