But back then . We warn't in such a hurry ! Things where much slower . Lower in HP but ok torque wise . Now days some expect them to drive like cars ..
Dunno about that Paul.
I don't think I would fancy, be comfortable.
draggin' that lot round, full time or otherwise.
Would certainly restrict you as to where you could go and park methink's.
I reckon a 18 ft van is just nice for two.
with my old 6.5m Roadstar about the max for comfort.
That is sort of negating the idea of
getting away from it all.
Which is what most usually do it for.
More taking it ALL Plus.... With you hey.
PeterD said
12:10 PM Jul 5, 2017
aussie_paul wrote:
It doesn't quite look right to me.
Why doesn't it look right? Would it be OK to tow it with a modern twin cab ute? I have not seen you pick on them towing that size or larger van.
The tug is a Range Rover. At 2500 kg or so they heavier than a twin cab ute (eg the heaviest Ford Ranger is 2176 kg) Please check the facts before posting.
aussie_paul said
02:01 PM Jul 5, 2017
PeterD wrote:
aussie_paul wrote:
It doesn't quite look right to me.
Why doesn't it look right? Would it be OK to tow it with a modern twin cab ute? I have not seen you pick on them towing that size or larger van.
The tug is a Range Rover. At 2500 kg or so they heavier than a twin cab ute (eg the heaviest Ford Ranger is 2176 kg) Please check the facts before posting.
I posted it as a bit of a joke to see what would happen. Notice the question marks Pete. lol
macka17 said
02:21 PM Jul 5, 2017
Just remember Pete.
That most of the Utes can load and carry near 1 ton in trays.
PLUS the trailer behind.
That makes them.In reality.
NEAR the heaviest.
Not that they can tow much though. But will have around
the best grip on the deck hey.
PeterD said
10:58 PM Jul 5, 2017
macka17 wrote:
Just remember Pete. That most of the Utes can load and carry near 1 ton in trays. PLUS the trailer behind.
For starters they can't carry a tonne in the tray, particularly if they are a twin cab. Twin cabs should have their load distributed in the cab as well as the tray. The Jap utes have a tonne load but after you take out the weight of the loaded fuel tank, driver and navigator, canopy tow equipment, bull bar and any other accessories there is a considerable portion of that tonne lost. Then you have the problem of the GCM. If you load the tug right up you will find that you can not tow the full weight of the vehicles maximum towing capacity
If you are towing the to the maximum towing capacity then the loaded weight of the ute probably will not be as much as the loaded weight of the Range Rover.
Yardie said
10:38 AM Jul 6, 2017
I've owned a Ford ranger and a RRS , so felt a little qualified to chip in. The GCM of most of the 4 X 4 utes is around 6000kg. , ranger included
The RRS has a GVM of 3000 and a GCM of 6500 which gives a lot of flexibility to load the car up, as it weighs 2150. We are probably around the 2900-2950 mark on the GVM of the car by loading it up and taking into account towball weight.
The RRS feels very solid on the road as a tow vehicle , I tow a 21' 2800kg loaded semi off-road (not the one in the photo), and know I am well within legal limits (and insurable) , but also feel within sensible limits. (provided not doing anything stupid - we cruise around 90). It has a lot of pulling power at 225Kw/700Nm
*not affiliated in anyway - just surprised at the reaction to the photo (btw - I think the camera angle has something to do with it)
macka17 said
05:00 PM Jul 6, 2017
Sorry Pete.
BAD wording. I meant they can usually carry near a ton "total"
more than Kerbside empty weight. OK.
Most of. Usually a fair bit more than the people carriers.
But still not suitable for much over 2 ton tow,
Nice set up here.
Aussie Paul.
I don't think I would fancy, be comfortable.
draggin' that lot round, full time or otherwise.
Would certainly restrict you as to where you could go and park methink's.
I reckon a 18 ft van is just nice for two.
with my old 6.5m Roadstar about the max for comfort.
That is sort of negating the idea of
getting away from it all.
Which is what most usually do it for.
More taking it ALL Plus.... With you hey.
Why doesn't it look right? Would it be OK to tow it with a modern twin cab ute? I have not seen you pick on them towing that size or larger van.
The tug is a Range Rover. At 2500 kg or so they heavier than a twin cab ute (eg the heaviest Ford Ranger is 2176 kg) Please check the facts before posting.
I posted it as a bit of a joke to see what would happen. Notice the question marks Pete. lol
That most of the Utes can load and carry near 1 ton in trays.
PLUS the trailer behind.
That makes them.In reality.
NEAR the heaviest.
Not that they can tow much though. But will have around
the best grip on the deck hey.
For starters they can't carry a tonne in the tray, particularly if they are a twin cab. Twin cabs should have their load distributed in the cab as well as the tray. The Jap utes have a tonne load but after you take out the weight of the loaded fuel tank, driver and navigator, canopy tow equipment, bull bar and any other accessories there is a considerable portion of that tonne lost. Then you have the problem of the GCM. If you load the tug right up you will find that you can not tow the full weight of the vehicles maximum towing capacity
Have you read this article - WHY A 3500KG TOW RATING MAY NOT REALLY BE A 3500KG TOW RATING
If you are towing the to the maximum towing capacity then the loaded weight of the ute probably will not be as much as the loaded weight of the Range Rover.
I've owned a Ford ranger and a RRS , so felt a little qualified to chip in. The GCM of most of the 4 X 4 utes is around 6000kg. , ranger included
The RRS has a GVM of 3000 and a GCM of 6500 which gives a lot of flexibility to load the car up, as it weighs 2150. We are probably around the 2900-2950 mark on the GVM of the car by loading it up and taking into account towball weight.
The RRS feels very solid on the road as a tow vehicle , I tow a 21' 2800kg loaded semi off-road (not the one in the photo), and know I am well within legal limits (and insurable) , but also feel within sensible limits. (provided not doing anything stupid - we cruise around 90). It has a lot of pulling power at 225Kw/700Nm
*not affiliated in anyway - just surprised at the reaction to the photo (btw - I think the camera angle has something to do with it)
BAD wording. I meant they can usually carry near a ton "total"
more than Kerbside empty weight. OK.
Most of. Usually a fair bit more than the people carriers.
But still not suitable for much over 2 ton tow,