I wasnt going to say anything but in the interest of fair neighborly relations well here goes, 6.00 a.m. sunday morning snoozing in camper, idiot neighbor for no reason gets up and starts banging around in typical caravan park fashion, Dave grumbles, 6.30a.m. huge bang and a crash as though dopey neighbor has dropped his card table right outside Daves camper, Dave swears and threatens to tear the fxxxxx wankers head off as soon as Dave gets up, 7.00 a.m. nature beckons Dave gets up to answer the call glaring at neighbor, proceeds to ablution block, tells poppa smurf about the things that Dave will do the neighbor upon return, returned to camper glaring all the while at said neighbor, put the kettle on in squeeky, placed sugar and coffee in cups, dragon arises, I ask for the milk all the time glaring at said neighbor, the dragon lets out an expletive, I go and see what the problem is, therein lies the answer to early morning loud noise, not neighbor but two cans of coke that had frozen overnight in below freezing temperatures had exploded, result coca-cola all over the fridge and in the carpet and one very annoyed dragon, I retired to squeeky and gave our neighbor a sheepish wave and a good morning and said no more about it, poppa smurf enquired as to my result and I stated that I had apoligised to the neighbor in the same way that I cursed him, in my mind, poppa smurf happy with answer whistled back to his camp,

Wise man davo thanks for your posting a lot of us might learn something from your posting , did miss your post while you were away good to have you back on line you are a good help to many of us . Davo heading west to Barcaldine then onto Townsville would you know if the Kennedy Delelopmental Road from Winton to Hughenden is suitable for caravans thanks brickie

well I had to go back through a few vehicle logs for that one, back to the days of my nissan patrol, the kennedy development road, I wrote " impassable when wet, generally in good condition, watch spoon drains, averaged 65kph, 220 kms long, 3.5hrs, good trip" however I asked a mate who is up that way and he said that it has been sealed all the way from winton to hughenden, should be fine for a van with reasonable caution, so hope that helps, and thanks for the kind words. I am only one amongst many here that are only too glad to help. marg say g'day to terry for me and tell him we apreciate his years as a fire fighter, people in these positions do not get the thanks that is so often owing to them, I was a volunteer firey at the ash wednesday bushfire that came through the southeast to the adelaide hills and I dont mind telling you it was those days and nights that I most feared for my life, concrete burning, fireballs as big as houses flying 25 feet overhead, fire burning at treetop level I will never forget the noise they made, I wouldnt like to fight in a confined space, we had to let a lot of houses go over that period, I cried for days a lot of big hairy men did and still do I dont mind telling you and everyone else, the people who's houses we could not save lost everything, some uninsured I still get upset by it now, phsyc's associate it with those coming home from battle, but I wouldnt dare  compare it to that, but after years of it then it certainly could be I guess, anyway a big thanks, for what it is worth, from me

-- Edited by dave06 at 13:23, 2008-09-01

Thanks Davo thats a big help, i have a margaret has well hope yours is good has mine , thanks Margaret for your kind words also ,Davo i know what your talking about regards a good cry i had 36 years full time in the service and could still manage a cry from time to time . Davo i remember ash wednesday well we had a lots of fires in south east queensland on that day on return to the station after one of the fire one of the boys have a spit about being a hard day when the chief fill us in on what you blokes were dealing with in the Adelaide hills we were feeling for you all terry