on the late news last night there was a story of a couple returning from a camping trip, didn't catch where it was, they were carrying two gas bottles in the boot of the car, somehow the valves were turned on, (accidental) burst into flames, he managed to get his wife out and unhook his trailer with the motorbikes on board and escaped with relatively minor burns
what a lucky, lucky couple, if you carry your bottles like this then please make sure they cant roll around, otherwise toasty couples!!
VK3FEMT said
10:14 PM Jan 29, 2009
Yep. And usually by the time you smell said gas it has also found an ignition source.
I am going to get some extra brackets put on the back of the camper to carry an extra two bottles, I don't like the idea much of them being inside, and I don't really have the room anyway.
xina said
12:19 AM Jan 30, 2009
That's why I gave the Stove that was in my Hi-Ace when I bought it, to my nephew, for when he goes Pig shooting. I don't like Gas Bottles in a vehicle. I have a small camp stove,[ mini gas cartridges] for external cooking, and a Cobb Cooker, and Dreampot. Won't have anything larger than a Cartridge.
Cheers,
xina.
Roostertales said
08:32 AM Jan 30, 2009
Yep anyones who's been a boatie also recognises the dangers with gas bottles and cookers.
Wombat 280 said
09:40 AM Jan 30, 2009
Not sure but I heard somewhere that it was illegal to carry gas bottles in a boot space or lay them down in the boot . I do recall a service station attendant refusing to put bottles into a boot for a lady but would put them on the floor behind the seats.. Have noted vans with the gas bottles in the front boot. so is there a rule or not ?
One of those small LPG bottles that plumbers and electo' use to connected to a gas torch have caused a few deaths, 1 when the contacts of the interior light caused the spark and another when the plumber got in the van and lit up a smoke.
twobob said
10:47 AM Jan 30, 2009
LPG is a safe, reliable and efficent energy source, but it, like petrol, has dangers if not used correctly. Our home power (mains) can be dangerous, again, if not used correctly
In Qld, it is manditary to have a plug in the valve of un used LPG cylinders. As for the legallities of carrying them in the boot of a car, I do not know, but the law of "common sense" should remain - SECURE them, and do not leave them there. On that, we have LPG fueled motor cars, with the cylinder mounted in the boot.
I have posted before on the dangers of LPG, and just repeat it here. Turn them off at the valve when not in use, mount them externally, and make sure they are secured. Have a screw in plug in the valve, when not in use.
Threeway fridges and water heaters, are the worst things in my opinion, for camping, as they use a pilot light. I am not that keen on the little "one use" throw away cans. They can puncture, wear a hole from movement when travelling, have the tops knocked off, etc, but it is a small volume, but still can be very dangerous
LPG is great for cooking, relatively cheap to use and available. It is safe (relatively), when used correctly.
jimbo said
10:49 AM Feb 1, 2009
I carry two gas Bottles in my Toyota Hi Ace (One is 4 k the other is a 9 kilo...I have them seperatly in a milk crate (Pura) Which I bought years ago...very safe... Jimbo
Sorry sent the wrong snap.....If anyone is interested that photo was last week in 43 deg heat in Bacchus Marsh...I was watching a DVD
VK3FEMT said
06:21 PM Feb 3, 2009
twobob wrote:
I have posted before on the dangers of LPG, and just repeat it here. Turn them off at the valve when not in use, mount them externally, and make sure they are secured. Have a screw in plug in the valve, when not in use.
I might get a roasting for this, although I agree that all gas cylinders should be mounted externally, in most situations (if not all) there is no excuse not to do so, only laziness and stupidity.
If you have ever seen one of these things blow its top you certainly wouldn't have it riding in the vehicle with you. I remember when I was little had a gas barby and the gas bottle blew its nut, took out the huge glass windows and side wall, which was brick, in the porch. And this was only a 4 kilo bottle.
I have a gas bottle that is just for my lamp, as it has the vertical valve on it (bus needs the horizontal one), even with that it will be mounted on the back of the vehicle when not in use and travelling. Its just not worth screwing around with.
what a lucky, lucky couple, if you carry your bottles like this then please make sure they cant roll around, otherwise toasty couples!!
And usually by the time you smell said gas it has also found an ignition source.
I am going to get some extra brackets put on the back of the camper to carry an extra two bottles, I don't like the idea much of them being inside, and I don't really have the room anyway.
In Qld, it is manditary to have a plug in the valve of un used LPG cylinders. As for the legallities of carrying them in the boot of a car, I do not know, but the law of "common sense" should remain - SECURE them, and do not leave them there. On that, we have LPG fueled motor cars, with the cylinder mounted in the boot.
I have posted before on the dangers of LPG, and just repeat it here. Turn them off at the valve when not in use, mount them externally, and make sure they are secured. Have a screw in plug in the valve, when not in use.
Threeway fridges and water heaters, are the worst things in my opinion, for camping, as they use a pilot light. I am not that keen on the little "one use" throw away cans. They can puncture, wear a hole from movement when travelling, have the tops knocked off, etc, but it is a small volume, but still can be very dangerous
LPG is great for cooking, relatively cheap to use and available. It is safe (relatively), when used correctly.
Jimbo
If you have ever seen one of these things blow its top you certainly wouldn't have it riding in the vehicle with you. I remember when I was little had a gas barby and the gas bottle blew its nut, took out the huge glass windows and side wall, which was brick, in the porch. And this was only a 4 kilo bottle.
I have a gas bottle that is just for my lamp, as it has the vertical valve on it (bus needs the horizontal one), even with that it will be mounted on the back of the vehicle when not in use and travelling. Its just not worth screwing around with.