Hi Guys,
I recently had a small GIZMO put into the Fuel Line in my Totota Hi-ace Camper-van.
This thing has 6 small magnets in it,  and is supposed to  :

Prevent "pinging" when using unleaded petrol. 

[It was originally invented so that the inventor could use unleaded petrol in a car that used leaded petrol, which he claims he did very successfully.]

Improve Diesel operation.

Improve unleaded petrol operation by balancing the electron flow of Hydrocarbons.

I'm not sure, but I think it's supposed to improve Fuel consumption slightly too.

All I know is, my vehicle seems to run smoother, and the gear changes are definitely smoother. [It's Auto.]       The 2 words that were running through my head when I was driving home after the installation, were  FLOATY, & SMOOTH.

I haven't been able to trial the Fuel consumption yet, but as soon as I do, I'll update this Post.

It is not expensive.  $50.00 Fitted.

If you want to know more about it, ring Ted Ciesiolka, on 0749-348-159.
The man is a retired engineer, and makes them himself at home.

All I know is I like the way the 'van runs now [ not that there was anything wrong with it before, but it just seems to "Float" along now] , and I'm glad I got it put in.

Cheers,
xina.

-- Edited by xina on Monday 7th of December 2009 09:35:15 PM

As a mechanic the only thing I can think of that a magnet will do is remove any Iron filings which may have found there way into the fuel tank. Pinging is related to ignition timing fuel quality & load. Ordinary ULP in older motors can be a problem, either retard ignition or use Premium ULP the latter will definitly be an improvement. Late model vehicles Eg AU ford & on have an ignition timing controlled by a Knock sensor attached to the Block. This automaticly abjusts timing up to the point of pinging, for max fuel ecconomy & power no matter what the fuel quality. Cheers Daryl

yep sorry xina, my experience is aligned with that stated above, there is no independent reliable documentation supporting the alignment of molecules relevant to a magnetic field R.A.A. reports state these do not work and in fact bring your fuel pump under greater strain (having to force the fuel under a greater pressure) so may in fact be detrimental to the performance of the engine components if you have a pre 85 vehicle that relies on high octane fuel to stop "pinging" (detonation) please do not stop using this fuel as you can destroy your engine on one hill a lot of gadgets out there with very wild claims, basically if it sounds too good to be true then unfortunately it usually is

You have been had. Tell them you want your money back or you will go to consumer afairs, but don't let THEM remove it, get it removed by someone else. Cheers, Peter

Hi Guys, Thanks for caring, but as I said, I'm already happy with it. Even if I don't get better fuel consumption, I reckon the 'van IS running smoother. Ted is a friend of a very good friend of mine, who wouldn't do the wrong thing by me. My friend, and lots more of HIS friends use them. Ted does not advertise them, [can't, as he sells them as a Hobbyist.] so all of his sales, are by word of mouth, which must say something. Having rejected the idea of trying a number of other products that have been on the market for quite a while, I figured this one was worth the risk at that price, under those circumstances. I don't pay for it 'till Friday by the way. Cheers, xina.

Unfortunately Xina........I have to agree.

Definately get you money back because it doesn't work!!

Good advice too Peter!!



DeBe.....I actually thought I had a knock sensor in my old Land Rover till I found out the mechanic had left a hammer on the air cleaner!!

-- Edited by Disco Duck on Tuesday 8th of December 2009 06:36:54 PM

Let us know about the fuel economy Xina.......that would be interesting!!

Will any of you believe me if I tell you I DO get more mileage? I seriously doubt it, but I said I would let you know after a trial,, and I will.
Cheers,
xina.


-- Edited by xina on Tuesday 8th of December 2009 07:09:23 PM

I must check my fuel consumption next time I wash my car

No wonder you're SOLO. Cheers, xina.

Disco the knocking is little men using sledge hammers on top of your pistons. Aparently all hell breaks loose if they manage to break through & they strike oil?????????????

Just a small trawl on Google should convince you?

http://www.ncbuy.com/credit/articles/01_10816.html

http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256F2B00224F55/page/Listing-ConsumerAlerts-2009-07-29+-+Fuel+Saving+Devices+-+Alert?OpenDocument&1=942-Consumer+Scams+%26+Alerts~&2=~&3=~&REFUNID=43AE05C06B9370DBCA257670002317D9~

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/four-fuelsaving-devices-dumped-as-inquiry-cries-foul-20090420-acqk.html

Just because the maker 'believes' in it does not make it work.

EDIT: The ususl "trick" with these things is to improve some minor issue that was already there. This is usually pretty easy to do, especially with older vehicles. The vehicle runs better and the customer believes in the gadget. QED.
It is just as easy to make the vehicle run rough again after the gadget is removed too.

Cheers
Peter

-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Tuesday 8th of December 2009 11:06:59 PM

please xina we are not knocking it just for knocking it's sake, snake oil salesmen have been around for eons, if you believe in the unit then by all means pay for it leave it on and be happy but do not under any circumstances cease using high octane fuel this is better known as "premium unleaded" the older vehicles, pre 85, need the extra octane to stop the pinging, if you get pinging upon acceleration then the vehicle will not last long the highest octane fuel is currently bp which is all I will use in little blue please dont take the answers as a personal assault although some do border on that

LOL DeBe. I have seen a couple where the strike came from inside. Makes a mess!!

OK Dave. The 'van is a '98 Diesel. Cheers.

obviously my answer on high octane fuel doesnt relate to your vehicle but I must always try to use a "generic" answer, a lot of young players out there use an older model petrol powered van and are reading this thinking they can get away with a lower octane rated and thereby cheaper fuel thanks xina, stay happy!! the post is a good one, please keep it up! we value your input! Highly!

Yep my answer not realy relevent since were dealing with a diesel, must remember ask first before answering.

You got me rattled Xina .......I have to tell you. I cannot grasp how a gizmo originally designed to stop the pinging in unleaded petrol motors will help a diesel. Why would you have fitted it to start with? Diesels don't ping. What was wrong with your motor for you to need to fit it? I am not badgering you.......I am really just very curious as I am a diesel mechanic. I guess the main thing is that you are happy with it so wether it works or doesn't work is irrelevant. Your car........your money..........your happiness. !! Problem solved!! :) :)

Hi Disco, I know absolutely nothing about this sort of thing, which is why I suggested any-one who was interested ring Ted himself, and he can explain it to you. Another friend of my friend, who has a fleet of trucks, and a million acre property in the Territory, uses them in all his vehicles. As I said earlier, Ted was an engineer before he retired. Cheers, xina.

ah you see we may very well be scoffing at something that may in fact work, who knows, newton was labelled a drongoe as well I wonder what happened to the gizmo that pro hart designed/invented his was scoffed at but apparently did work! and has since disapeared

The ACCC has taken action re the Fitch fuel catylist and Hyclone...

dave06 wrote:

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ah you see we may very well be scoffing at something that may in fact work, who knows, newton was labelled a drongoe as well

I wonder what happened to the gizmo that pro hart designed/invented his was scoffed at but apparently did work! and has since disapeared

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As well as Newton, Einstein, Darwin, and Galileo all copped a lot criticism (to put it mildly!) but all of these people went to extraordinary lengths to establish their theories and in all cases they have stood the test of time. There's no comparison with the purveyors of some of these gadgets. A more appropriate comparison would be with the alchemists of the medieval era.

Before anyone accuses me of being a "drongoe" I deny the charge.....despite overwhelming irrefutable evidence!

 

-- Edited by jimricho on Friday 11th of December 2009 06:10:23 AM

call me what you like, anything but late for meals!!

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Any news on the fuel consumption trials?

As I didn't get to see what I was getting before putting it in, I don't really know if there is any benefit for fuel consumption . A friend of mine is going to get one put in her car soon, so I'll be able to give you the results from her Vehicle. I'll let you see what you think. I'm getting 100ks per 9 ltrs Diesel. Even if it hasn't made a difference to fuel consumption, I'm still glad I put it in, as I do believe she runs smoother. Cheers, xina.