Anybody using a Mitsubishi Challenger has a tug if so what are they like
ozjohn said
11:26 AM Mar 4, 2011
Sorry I can't answer your question with the authority of one who tows with a Challenger, but with a max Tow capacity of 2500Kg and a max Ball weight of 250Kg the 2.5D should be a willing worker. However considering the overall size of the Challenger I personally think that towing anywhere near the vehicles legal capacity would be pushing the boundry in terms of overall stability and thus safety. Note: An appropriate WDH must als be used with the Challenger. Cheers, ozjohn.
brickies said
01:01 PM Mar 4, 2011
Thanks John on the look out for a unit have been looking at Prado it has 2500Kg. tow capacity has well but bigger price I know you like Kia serronto will have a look at it has well
Ma said
01:09 PM Mar 4, 2011
Have a look at the Ford Ranger (ours is a four door ute and we put a canopy on it). We are extremely pleased with the performance and ltrs/100 we get.
brickies said
01:35 PM Mar 4, 2011
Thanks Ma
ozjohn said
02:10 PM Mar 4, 2011
Brickie. I had a love affair with the earlier Kia Sorento until the lastest update. Now with the lighter maximum Ball weight they have similar restraints as the Hyundai Santa Fe, so they both are unsuitable for my van. The earlier 2.2D Sorento had a tow capacity of 2800Kg and a max ball weight of 280Kg. 'Fantastic" The latest 2.2D 'R' has a tow capacity of 2000Kg(Auto) & 2500Kg (Man), but only a piddling 150Kg Max ball weight. These figures are best suited to the euro market. I instead finished up with a 18 month old Ford Territory and must say it's the steadiest towing platform I've ever owned, but a bit heavy on juice. The 4.0Lt petrol Territory does however have far superior power and to torque than a 3.0D patrol. Hopefully the new diesel Territory due for release in May won't be overpriced like the Jap and Euro diesels are. But being Ford, I doubt it very much. Cheers, ozjohn.
Note: Owners of late model Sorento's may have earlier handbooks supplied with the vehicle and the tow figures listed maybe incorrect. Check with Kia Australia for correct tow and ball weight figures.
-- Edited by ozjohn on Friday 4th of March 2011 02:19:51 PM
brickies said
02:36 PM Mar 4, 2011
I am in no hurry may wait to see what the Ford Territory diesel looks like still looking at 2300Kg. towing capacity I would think .
Gerty Dancer said
03:17 PM Mar 4, 2011
A big thing in favour of the Prado's is their 180 lt fuel tank!
But if we had our time (and money) over again we would seriously consider a ute. With the "station wagon" style of vehicle, especially if you have a luggage barrier, theres not a huge amount of storage space in the back. Also things such jerry cans, gas or butane bottles can be transported more safely on the back of a ute instead of in the cabin with people.
Good luck with your choice Brickies!
brickies said
03:49 PM Mar 4, 2011
Good point but do utes ride has smooth has the Prado and I do like the 180 lt fuel tank
Sandra K said
05:11 PM Mar 4, 2011
Hi Brickies
We are on to our second Navara, dual cab, diesel and the current model is an auto. The ride is probably not as good as what you would get in the Prado or similar, still a good ride though but concur with previous comment on use of space. Fuel consumption is good but towing capacity is a winner for us.
jimsiron said
05:17 PM Mar 5, 2011
We have one of the new Challengers, LS manual and tow our Outback swan with no problems what so ever. Ours is rated at 2500kg towing capacity as it is a MY10 but the MY11 is now rated at 3000kg. Engine is very economical and I have no doubt will tow a larger van with ease.
regards
Jimsiron
Cruising Granny said
09:33 PM Mar 5, 2011
Welcome Jim from Mildura. Nice of you to drop in with a great informative response.
I hope you enjoy your stay on The Grey Nomads.
brickies said
10:29 PM Mar 5, 2011
Thanks Jimsiron has it got enough get up and go when towing and what sort of fuel economy do you get when towing
jimsiron said
10:00 AM Mar 6, 2011
Brickies, No problem, plenty of power. Tows trailer easy at 100kmh, even with cruise on, uses about 14l/100 at that speed and about 15l/100 in a howling gale we copped! Around town unladen about 9 litres. Engine is very free revving especially around 2000rpm, only doing around 2000-2200 at 100 anyway. Some other owners have complained about excessive diesel noise but it is really very minimal after owning 2 Tritons and also has had a re-tuning done by Mitsubishi to eliminate it prior to delivery. regards Jimsiron
brickies said
10:07 AM Mar 6, 2011
Thanks Jimsiron for a very good report my auto electrician told me to check them out
ParamountCruiser said
06:56 PM Mar 3, 2013
ozjohn wrote:
Sorry I can't answer your question with the authority of one who tows with a Challenger, but with a max Tow capacity of 2500Kg and a max Ball weight of 250Kg the 2.5D should be a willing worker.
Current models have a max Tow capacity 3,000 kgs with a max ball weight of 300 kgs.
Just noticed that Jimirons has also mentioned the above figures.
-- Edited by ParamountCruiser on Sunday 3rd of March 2013 06:58:08 PM
Fred R said
12:45 AM Mar 4, 2013
jimsiron wrote:
We have one of the new Challengers, LS manual and tow our Outback swan with no problems what so ever. Ours is rated at 2500kg towing capacity as it is a MY10 but the MY11 is now rated at 3000kg. Engine is very economical and I have no doubt will tow a larger van with ease. regards Jimsiron
Hi Jimsiron,
Help Help......CAN anyone HELP.
Have just purchased a new caravan (coromal 667) which is about 2000kg , on the way home from the dealers on the freeway we noticed that it swayed as every truck went past. The van was balanced using a WDH (hayman Reese) and tyre pressures all good. The tow car is a Mitsubishi the same as yours. Have you experienced any swaying if so how did you fix the problem? we have towed a pop top of about 1900KG with the challenger for a couple of years with no problems. The dealer suggested that we tighten the chains on the WDH which we did and has made a big improvement. If you or a Grey Nomad members have used a sway bar or have worked out a solution could the please post results. Have also had a suggestion of Air Bag suspension as the challenger is light at the rear end apparently.
neilnruth said
01:05 AM Mar 4, 2013
Welcome to the forum Fred R. You've dug up an old thread on this forum - hope someone is able to help you.
However considering the overall size of the Challenger I personally think that towing anywhere near the vehicles legal capacity would be pushing the boundry in terms of overall stability and thus safety.
Note: An appropriate WDH must als be used with the Challenger.
Cheers, ozjohn.
I had a love affair with the earlier Kia Sorento until the lastest update.
Now with the lighter maximum Ball weight they have similar restraints as the Hyundai Santa Fe, so they both are unsuitable for my van.
The earlier 2.2D Sorento had a tow capacity of 2800Kg and a max ball weight of 280Kg. 'Fantastic"
The latest 2.2D 'R' has a tow capacity of 2000Kg(Auto) & 2500Kg (Man), but only a piddling 150Kg Max ball weight. These figures are best suited to the euro market.
I instead finished up with a 18 month old Ford Territory and must say it's the steadiest towing platform I've ever owned, but a bit heavy on juice. The 4.0Lt petrol Territory does however have far superior power and to torque than a 3.0D patrol.
Hopefully the new diesel Territory due for release in May won't be overpriced like the Jap and Euro diesels are. But being Ford, I doubt it very much.
Cheers, ozjohn.
Note: Owners of late model Sorento's may have earlier handbooks supplied with the vehicle and the tow figures listed maybe incorrect.
Check with Kia Australia for correct tow and ball weight figures.
-- Edited by ozjohn on Friday 4th of March 2011 02:19:51 PM
We are on to our second Navara, dual cab, diesel and the current model is an auto. The ride is probably not as good as what you would get in the Prado or similar, still a good ride though but concur with previous comment on use of space. Fuel consumption is good but towing capacity is a winner for us.
No problem, plenty of power. Tows trailer easy at 100kmh, even with cruise on, uses about 14l/100 at that speed and about 15l/100 in a howling gale we copped!
Around town unladen about 9 litres. Engine is very free revving especially around 2000rpm, only doing around 2000-2200 at 100 anyway.
Some other owners have complained about excessive diesel noise but it is really very minimal after owning 2 Tritons and also has had a re-tuning done by Mitsubishi to eliminate it prior to delivery.
regards
Jimsiron
Current models have a max Tow capacity 3,000 kgs with a max ball weight of 300 kgs.
Just noticed that Jimirons has also mentioned the above figures.
-- Edited by ParamountCruiser on Sunday 3rd of March 2013 06:58:08 PM
Hi Jimsiron,
Help Help......CAN anyone HELP.
Have just purchased a new caravan (coromal 667) which is about 2000kg , on the way home from the dealers on the freeway we noticed that it swayed as every truck went past. The van was balanced using a WDH (hayman Reese) and tyre pressures all good. The tow car is a Mitsubishi the same as yours. Have you experienced any swaying if so how did you fix the problem? we have towed a pop top of about 1900KG with the challenger for a couple of years with no problems. The dealer suggested that we tighten the chains on the WDH which we did and has made a big improvement. If you or a Grey Nomad members have used a sway bar or have worked out a solution could the please post results. Have also had a suggestion of Air Bag suspension as the challenger is light at the rear end apparently.