I'm in total agreement with having your headlights on in the daylight, anything to make you more visible. But the thing that annoys me is the people that have their lights on high beam.
Driving home from SA last Monday I struck about four of them and with the quality of modern lights you can't look towards them as they are so bright.
Does anyone else find this a problem or is it just me..
jack biggles said
07:55 PM May 13, 2011
Gubby, I agree.
It happens in the day time, it happens in the night time.
Theres some very inconsiderate motorists out there.
robell said
07:58 PM May 13, 2011
No mate, its not just you, gday Gubby, its one of my pet hates to, like you, i agree with the headlight bit but not on hi beam.
cheers mate, Rob.
jimricho said
08:02 PM May 13, 2011
It's my understanding that the law relating to high beam and on-coming traffic is the same day or night. I know that's not much help when it's the other party that's the culprit.
(edit to correct dumb typing mistake)
-- Edited by jimricho on Friday 13th of May 2011 08:10:06 PM
jack biggles said
08:07 PM May 13, 2011
jimricho wrote:
It's my understanding the the law relating to high beam and on-coming traffic is the same day or night. I know that's not much help when it's the other party that's the culprit.
Absolutely correct sir!
Using headlights on high-beam
(1) The driver of a vehicle must not use the vehicles headlights
on high-beam, or allow the vehicles headlights to be used
on high-beam, if the driver is driving:
(a) less than 200 metres behind a vehicle travelling in the
same direction as the driver; or
(b) less than 200 metres from an oncoming vehicle.
Offence provision.
Note High-beam and oncoming vehicle are defined in the dictionary
(2) However, if the driver is overtaking a vehicle, the driver
may briefly switch the headlights from low-beam to highbeam immediately before the driver begins to overtake the
vehicle.
Cruising Granny said
08:11 PM May 13, 2011
It's the new style of lights which causes the "flashing". The halogen glares more, and I believe gives less light. Even at low beam they flash as the car bounces up and down on the road surface. I find it blinding, and annoying day and night. I do drive with my headlights on low beam in the daytime, and high and low as required at night. No point playing duelling headlights with road trains - they win every time. If I slip up I have the advantage of apologising to the truck driver on the UHF. I prefer drivers to use low bean in the day time.
gubby said
08:17 PM May 13, 2011
I suppose I could do a screaming U turn and chase them, but how do I get them to pull over for me to make a citizens arrest..
Granny the ones I'm refering to weren't flashing me they were constantly on high beam, in broad daylight I had to look at the left side of the road so as not to be dazzled..
-- Edited by gubby on Friday 13th of May 2011 08:21:26 PM
jack biggles said
08:22 PM May 13, 2011
gubby wrote:
I suppose I could do a screaming U turn and chase them, but how do I get them to pull over for me to make a citizens arrest..
Well gubby, you could always do what I do, just hang the shotgun out thru the open drivers window as you approach them, they will get the idea
gubby said
08:24 PM May 13, 2011
jack biggles wrote:
Well gubby, you could always do what I do, just hang the shotgun out thru the open drivers window as you approach them, they will get the idea
Do you use the normal Shotgun or the sawn off one????
jack biggles said
08:26 PM May 13, 2011
Big one Gubby, sawn off stays down beside the drivers seat for when I need to fill up. The bigggg one is to get their attention. No point turning and chasing in a troopy
Cruising Granny said
08:28 PM May 13, 2011
I can't help you with the high beam in daylight. Do you have driving lights on your tug? Just hit 'em with your high beam. If they're asleep they won't see them, but if they do happen to be awake, it will stun them into dipping action.
Wombat 280 said
08:56 PM May 13, 2011
jack biggles wrote:
jimricho wrote:
It's my understanding the the law relating to high beam and on-coming traffic is the same day or night. I know that's not much help when it's the other party that's the culprit.
Absolutely correct sir!
Using headlights on high-beam
(1) The driver of a vehicle must not use the vehicles headlights
on high-beam, or allow the vehicles headlights to be used
on high-beam, if the driver is driving:
(a) less than 200 metres behind a vehicle travelling in the
same direction as the driver; or
(b) less than 200 metres from an oncoming vehicle.
Offence provision.
Note High-beam and oncoming vehicle are defined in the dictionary
(2) However, if the driver is overtaking a vehicle, the driver
may briefly switch the headlights from low-beam to highbeam immediately before the driver begins to overtake the
vehicle.
The rules are all well and fine but most of the younger generations simply believe if you break the rules often enough it will be withdrawn from the book as unnecessary.
A very good example is those below bumper fog lights The hoons around town have found after market Spot Light lenses and have them adjusted to light up the road for hundreds of meters The problem is they aren't wired to the main light dimmer so even when they do drop from high beam the spotties are still on full bore . I am surprise at the number of near new vehicles I pass that have defective head or tail lighting .
As for enforcement of the road rules when was the last time you observed a highway patrol car or any other police vehicle operating at night, normally tucked up in the station doing paper work or hanging out in the Macca's carpark .
How long since you spotted a defect sticker on the windscreen of a vehicle.
gubby said
09:11 PM May 13, 2011
I seen an article in a South Australian paper where the police were issueing fines for the under bumper fog lights as they say they are illegal in South Aus. even if the vehicles were manufactured with them. That was about six months ago, I'm not from SA so I haven't heard or seen anymore about it...
jack biggles said
09:18 PM May 13, 2011
Well gubby, in NSW they are illegal at certain times. You can only use the fog light in foggy conditions, or if it is raining.
I also think its probably against the rules to change the globes in them to something else but wombat has a very good point about the police not being around too much these days.
I think most of the Police forces around australia have gone a bit soft really. I remember the days when the youth were afraid of police attention, now they seem to go about the place seeking it.
I remember the old hwp sergeant when i was a young man, scared the living life out of me, pulled me up and went over my car with a fine tooth comb, think i got a fine for not having a grommet in the engine firewall or something like that. I remember he thought I looked at him incorrectly and he gave me the number 9 right in the backside. I remember it was a couple of weeks later before I was game enough to drive the car again
goinsoon said
09:39 PM May 13, 2011
jack biggles wrote:
Well gubby, in NSW they are illegal at certain times. You can only use the fog light in foggy conditions, or if it is raining.
I also think its probably against the rules to change the globes in them to something else but wombat has a very good point about the police not being around too much these days.
I think most of the Police forces around australia have gone a bit soft really. I remember the days when the youth were afraid of police attention, now they seem to go about the place seeking it.
I remember the old hwp sergeant when i was a young man, scared the living life out of me, pulled me up and went over my car with a fine tooth comb, think i got a fine for not having a grommet in the engine firewall or something like that. I remember he thought I looked at him incorrectly and he gave me the number 9 right in the backside. I remember it was a couple of weeks later before I was game enough to drive the car again
It is not that they have gone soft but rather it is too easy to sit in an air conditioned van behind a camera and make a few hundred bucks per click.
-- Edited by goinsoon on Friday 13th of May 2011 09:40:39 PM
Cruising Granny said
09:46 PM May 13, 2011
They were all out in full swing around the country last week, mainly targetting heavy transport everything, including drugs and alcohol. We got pulled up in Charleville, and I got pinged $400 for not having a Qld escort/pilot record of movement log book. I've appealed it, but don't know how successful I'll be. Mongrel revenue collectors. A few kms north we hit a police roadblock doing the drug and alco test. The truck driver and I both passed that one. The blitz was national apparently. The radio was very busy as everyone was sharing locations of road blocks and patrols.
jack biggles said
10:35 PM May 13, 2011
Cruising Granny wrote:
They were all out in full swing around the country last week, mainly targetting heavy transport everything, including drugs and alcohol. We got pulled up in Charleville, and I got pinged $400 for not having a Qld escort/pilot record of movement log book. I've appealed it, but don't know how successful I'll be. Mongrel revenue collectors. A few kms north we hit a police roadblock doing the drug and alco test. The truck driver and I both passed that one. The blitz was national apparently. The radio was very busy as everyone was sharing locations of road blocks and patrols.
WOW, $400 smackers for not having a book. Did you not know about the book or is this a new thing?
Onedodger said
02:41 PM May 14, 2011
One of the problems with those that tow is that the tow vehicle is not set up correctly regards the tow hitch (WDH). making the front of the vehicle higher than the original set up when not towing. Thus we have a vehicle with headlights on low beam that are now focussed higher creating a vision impairment for oncoming drivers.
This is why I only advocate lights on when there is poor visibility in daylight.
VIZ. Fog, Dust, heavy rain, mist, smoke, dawn and dusk.
Just my different take on things.
Dodg.
sandsmere said
07:01 PM May 14, 2011
We only use headlights in daylight if there is a severe weather problem .
Cruising Granny said
08:19 PM May 14, 2011
jack biggles wrote:
Cruising Granny wrote:
They were all out in full swing around the country last week, mainly targetting heavy transport everything, including drugs and alcohol. We got pulled up in Charleville, and I got pinged $400 for not having a Qld escort/pilot record of movement log book. I've appealed it, but don't know how successful I'll be. Mongrel revenue collectors. A few kms north we hit a police roadblock doing the drug and alco test. The truck driver and I both passed that one. The blitz was national apparently. The radio was very busy as everyone was sharing locations of road blocks and patrols.
WOW, $400 smackers for not having a book. Did you not know about the book or is this a new thing?
I had no idea about keeping records of movement in a specific book, in triplicate, no less. There was no mention of it when I did the ticket in Cairns, but under those circumstances I'm not surprised. I had to tell them what the job was. The Guidelines just say "keep a record of movement", listing details of the load. In fact the Police officer didn't know what it was called when he wrote the ticket, and had trouble finding the reference in the "rules". The truck driver who is very experienced in heavy haulage had never heard of it either. He has to get one of the pages containing the details of "movement" of the current job. The bloke in the Tspt Dept office knew what it was, but had never sold one before, and had to do a lot of exploring to find the price. So I'm guessing it's not a popular publication and will never be a best seller. Another customer in the transport office compared the fine to DUI. I have lodged an appeal against the charge and the fine.
howdrink said
09:36 AM May 15, 2011
I also have auto headlights on so headlights are auto switch on when car is strated,
agree about highbeam on gives me the s**** if they are comming towards me i give them the flash with lightforce HID spots that normaly does the trick, the other one that gets me is following people with there rear fog lights on, i really want to be dazzeled by them things,
jules47 said
09:46 AM May 15, 2011
You go Granny - how could he write a ticket if he didn't even know what it was called!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Definitely a revenue raiser - hope you win your appeal.
gubby said
09:52 AM May 15, 2011
I think it all boils down to a bit of common courtesy and consideration for others, but they say that common sense is a very uncommon thing...
Thanks for all the replies..
Granny I also wish you all the best with your appeal....
-- Edited by gubby on Sunday 15th of May 2011 09:53:32 AM
I'm in total agreement with having your headlights on in the daylight, anything to make you more visible. But the thing that annoys me is the people that have their lights on high beam.
Driving home from SA last Monday I struck about four of them and with the quality of modern lights you can't look towards them as they are so bright.
Does anyone else find this a problem or is it just me..
It happens in the day time, it happens in the night time.
Theres some very inconsiderate motorists out there.
cheers mate, Rob.
It's my understanding that the law relating to high beam and on-coming traffic is the same day or night. I know that's not much help when it's the other party that's the culprit.
(edit to correct dumb typing mistake)
-- Edited by jimricho on Friday 13th of May 2011 08:10:06 PM
Absolutely correct sir!
Using headlights on high-beam
(1) The driver of a vehicle must not use the vehicles headlights
on high-beam, or allow the vehicles headlights to be used
on high-beam, if the driver is driving:
(a) less than 200 metres behind a vehicle travelling in the
same direction as the driver; or
(b) less than 200 metres from an oncoming vehicle.
Offence provision.
Note High-beam and oncoming vehicle are defined in the dictionary
(2) However, if the driver is overtaking a vehicle, the driver
may briefly switch the headlights from low-beam to highbeam immediately before the driver begins to overtake the
vehicle.
The halogen glares more, and I believe gives less light. Even at low beam they flash as the car bounces up and down on the road surface.
I find it blinding, and annoying day and night.
I do drive with my headlights on low beam in the daytime, and high and low as required at night.
No point playing duelling headlights with road trains - they win every time.
If I slip up I have the advantage of apologising to the truck driver on the UHF.
I prefer drivers to use low bean in the day time.
I suppose I could do a screaming U turn and chase them, but how do I get them to pull over for me to make a citizens arrest..
Granny the ones I'm refering to weren't flashing me they were constantly on high beam, in broad daylight I had to look at the left side of the road so as not to be dazzled..
-- Edited by gubby on Friday 13th of May 2011 08:21:26 PM
Well gubby, you could always do what I do, just hang the shotgun out thru the open drivers window as you approach them, they will get the idea
Do you use the normal Shotgun or the sawn off one????
If they're asleep they won't see them, but if they do happen to be awake, it will stun them into dipping action.
The rules are all well and fine but most of the younger generations simply believe if you break the rules often enough it will be withdrawn from the book as unnecessary.
A very good example is those below bumper fog lights The hoons around town have found after market Spot Light lenses and have them adjusted to light up the road for hundreds of meters The problem is they aren't wired to the main light dimmer so even when they do drop from high beam the spotties are still on full bore . I am surprise at the number of near new vehicles I pass that have defective head or tail lighting .
As for enforcement of the road rules when was the last time you observed a highway patrol car or any other police vehicle operating at night, normally tucked up in the station doing paper work or hanging out in the Macca's carpark .
How long since you spotted a defect sticker on the windscreen of a vehicle.
I seen an article in a South Australian paper where the police were issueing fines for the under bumper fog lights as they say they are illegal in South Aus. even if the vehicles were manufactured with them. That was about six months ago, I'm not from SA so I haven't heard or seen anymore about it...
Well gubby, in NSW they are illegal at certain times. You can only use the fog light in foggy conditions, or if it is raining.
I also think its probably against the rules to change the globes in them to something else but wombat has a very good point about the police not being around too much these days.
I think most of the Police forces around australia have gone a bit soft really. I remember the days when the youth were afraid of police attention, now they seem to go about the place seeking it.
I remember the old hwp sergeant when i was a young man, scared the living life out of me, pulled me up and went over my car with a fine tooth comb, think i got a fine for not having a grommet in the engine firewall or something like that. I remember he thought I looked at him incorrectly and he gave me the number 9 right in the backside. I remember it was a couple of weeks later before I was game enough to drive the car again
It is not that they have gone soft but rather it is too easy to sit in an air conditioned van behind a camera and make a few hundred bucks per click.
-- Edited by goinsoon on Friday 13th of May 2011 09:40:39 PM
We got pulled up in Charleville, and I got pinged $400 for not having a Qld escort/pilot record of movement log book. I've appealed it, but don't know how successful I'll be. Mongrel revenue collectors.
A few kms north we hit a police roadblock doing the drug and alco test. The truck driver and I both passed that one.
The blitz was national apparently. The radio was very busy as everyone was sharing locations of road blocks and patrols.
WOW, $400 smackers for not having a book. Did you not know about the book or is this a new thing?
One of the problems with those that tow is that the tow vehicle is not set up correctly regards the tow hitch (WDH). making the front of the vehicle higher than the original set up when not towing. Thus we have a vehicle with headlights on low beam that are now focussed higher creating a vision impairment for oncoming drivers.
This is why I only advocate lights on when there is poor visibility in daylight.
VIZ. Fog, Dust, heavy rain, mist, smoke, dawn and dusk.
Just my different take on things.
Dodg.
We only use headlights in daylight if there is a severe weather problem .
I had no idea about keeping records of movement in a specific book, in triplicate, no less. There was no mention of it when I did the ticket in Cairns, but under those circumstances I'm not surprised. I had to tell them what the job was.
The Guidelines just say "keep a record of movement", listing details of the load.
In fact the Police officer didn't know what it was called when he wrote the ticket, and had trouble finding the reference in the "rules".
The truck driver who is very experienced in heavy haulage had never heard of it either. He has to get one of the pages containing the details of "movement" of the current job.
The bloke in the Tspt Dept office knew what it was, but had never sold one before, and had to do a lot of exploring to find the price.
So I'm guessing it's not a popular publication and will never be a best seller.
Another customer in the transport office compared the fine to DUI.
I have lodged an appeal against the charge and the fine.
I also have auto headlights on so headlights are auto switch on when car is strated,
agree about highbeam on gives me the s**** if they are comming towards me i give them the flash with lightforce HID spots that normaly does the trick, the other one that gets me is following people with there rear fog lights on, i really want to be dazzeled by them things,
I think it all boils down to a bit of common courtesy and consideration for others, but they say that common sense is a very uncommon thing...
Thanks for all the replies..
Granny I also wish you all the best with your appeal....
-- Edited by gubby on Sunday 15th of May 2011 09:53:32 AM