Due to weight concerns etc, I am having a gas (canned type) stove or spirity stove fitted to a campervan. With the gas one (fly spray can size cannisters) this can either be used inside the campervan or outside. The spirit one would be fixed.
For anyone who has used both these inside, do you get much of a smell from the spirit stove as compared to say the gas cannister stove please?
Pleas note I am not interested in having a gas bottle fitted and only want to use the ones mentioned above. Any feedback on these appreciated.
Ron and Shirley said
05:00 PM May 20, 2011
Vic
I dont know what type of sprit stove you are talking about but when I am off 4WDing I use a Coleman 2 burner dual fuel stove. I prefer to run it on Shellite rather than Petrol as it seems to give a cleaner burn, over time no sooting around the burner. However Shellite last time I purchased was around the $4/litre.
The only downside I found was that in the cold, less than 10C, it is a bit hard to fire up with a tendency to flare giving off fumes. This was much worse with Petrol than Shellite.
When burning normally I have not noticed any fumes and often make toast with one of those gauze things and dont notice any fuel taste. Great stove and has served me well for many years.
BTW When my parents took me camping as a youngster (60 year ago) they used all Kero gear. Used to prewarm the Kero in the burner with Metho then fire up the burner. Now that stuff did fume and smell plus add flavour.
bill12 said
05:06 PM May 20, 2011
the little cannister ones are great and are cheap and portable. I get a 4 pack for $5 from bunnings, and a cartridge lasts about an hour.Metho stoves are great also, and can be put out with a bucket of water.The gas one is very hot and convienient. I would prefer it.
jimricho said
05:42 PM May 20, 2011
bill12's suggestion would be my preferred option too
GarrynLyn said
06:25 PM May 20, 2011
And me. They are just so convenient.
DellieMay said
07:03 PM May 20, 2011
Ditto to bill. Love it so much, I actually use one in my kitchen.
Vic said
07:10 PM May 20, 2011
Thanks for the feedback folks, I think the spirit one was run on metho Ron and Shirley. It may be that gas cannisters would be the way to go.
Either way both sound ok to use.
Cupie said
07:38 PM May 20, 2011
Hi ..
We use the propane ones that have been mentioned.
They were rather new on the market in 2000 & we were given one as a 'going away' present before we went 'round the block'. After trying it we put the primus thingo in the shed .. probably still there.
We now have two of them & often use then on top of the 5 burner BBQ at home rather than firing up the gas BBQ. Use them almost daily when vanning.
At $5 for 4 canisters of gas & the stove for around $14, they are the only way to go... just wish someone would market a two burner version!
ps.. We carry one in an old drill case with all the (mini) implements for a BBQ .. hot plate, tongs, knife, oil, kitchen paper, baking paper, wind tamers, alfoil, egg rings, rubbish bags, egg slice, spare gas cartridge, etc. .. never get caught out.
Vic said
09:14 PM May 20, 2011
Thanks Cupie,
It seems all positive for the propane cannisters, and thanks to all for the positive feedback.
Sheba said
11:56 PM May 20, 2011
Cupie wrote:
At $5 for 4 canisters of gas & the stove for around $14, they are the only way to go... just wish someone would market a two burner version!
Some-one does Cupie. Can't remember who, but will look when I finish here, and let you know. They cost about $99.00 if I remember rightly.
Found one, but you'll have to check price with a retailer.
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I agree with every-one else about the small Stoves.. I keep one in the Campervan, and one in the Kitchen, for when the Power goes out.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 21st of May 2011 12:15:17 AM
Vic said
01:07 AM May 21, 2011
Sheba wrote:
I agree with every-one else about the small Stoves.. I keep one in the Campervan, and one in the Kitchen, for when the Power goes out.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Thanks Sheba
jimricho said
06:23 AM May 21, 2011
May or may not be relevant to Vic's inquiry but an adaptor is available for the type shown in Sheba's post that enables it to be connected to a standard POL type gas bottle. (4.5 or 9 kilo types)
I have one similar to Sheba's plus a barbecue plate for it that I set up as my "outside" stove when I'm camped up for several days or more. I just use the spare gas bottle from the front of van that I remove and place near the stove.
Note that it has to be connected to the high pressure (gas bottle) side of the regulator as the stove's own connector is fitted with its own regulator. It cannot be connected to a gas outlet on the van.
-- Edited by jimricho on Saturday 21st of May 2011 06:30:13 AM
Father Ted said
06:54 AM May 21, 2011
jimricho wrote:
bill12's suggestion would be my preferred option too
Right on Bill.Way to go.
Onedodger said
05:00 PM May 21, 2011
Remember that Propane cannisters can freeze when it is very cold.
I have had a couple freeze up over the years.
jimricho said
06:29 PM May 21, 2011
Onedodger wrote:
Remember that Propane cannisters can freeze when it is very cold.
I have had a couple freeze up over the years.
The cannisters for those little cheapie stoves are actually butane not propane. The cannister that Sheba is referring to for the Coleman stove is propane, the same as in the normal gas cyliders. I only mention this as I don't know whether or not it is relevant to the freezing issue.
Cupie said
07:46 PM May 21, 2011
jimricho wrote:
Onedodger wrote:
Remember that Propane cannisters can freeze when it is very cold.
I have had a couple freeze up over the years.
The cannisters for those little cheapie stoves are actually butane not propane. The cannister that Sheba is referring to for the Coleman stove is propane, the same as in the normal gas cyliders. I only mention this as I don't know whether or not it is relevant to the freezing issue.
Oooops! Sorry if I misled anyone with my post ... It is the cheapie butane ones that I favour.
Has anyone seen one of those in a twin configuration?
sorry ..
ps. I recall that if you order dishes like Mongolian lamb in one of the many Asian resturants here, they often bring it to the table with one of these butane stoves (yes usually 'lucky' red ones). We are fortunate in my area to have dozens of great asian resturants.
Vic said
08:35 PM May 21, 2011
Thanks for the extra feedback folks, I was told that on another forum there were reports of one of the small ones (butane) exploding as if the gas stand on them is covered by a large pot/frypan that overlaps the gas ring stand, the heat is reflected back onto the cannister and they will explode, something to be aware of. So looks like don't use with large pots/frypans........
Sheba said
12:26 AM May 22, 2011
Sorry Guys,
Going to fast again. Didn't nut out the difference between Propane and Butane. I have seen a Dual Burner Butane one being used in the back of a vehicle on one of the Outdoors Programmes on TV some time ago.
Lost the details when I lost my Favourites a couple of weeks ago, so I'm having trouble finding it again. Wish I could remember the Brand name. I'll keep looking.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Vic said
02:07 AM May 22, 2011
Hi Sheba,
This Coleman one on Ebay (but in the UK) says it is a canister stove two burner but looks like the other one you posted earlier, see;
When space is at a premium, you need a stove that is compact but still delivers the power for cooking the family dinner. The Profile comes in at less than four inches high when closed, so it takes up very little space in your car. When fired up, its two burners crank out 24,000 Btu's of cooking power. Twist-click auto ignition provides reliable matchless lighting. Durable steel construction with built-in aluminum windscreen. Runs on both propane and butane canisters. Imported.
Dimensions 23.2"L x 3.9"H x 12.6"W.
Weight 11.7 lb.
$99.00
Color: Red
(Avail. Jun. 2)
Select color/styleRed (Avail. Jun. 2)
Quantity
Avail. Jun. 2Approx. delivery time 2-5 business days
-- Edited by Sheba on Sunday 22nd of May 2011 04:03:24 AM
-- Edited by Sheba on Sunday 22nd of May 2011 04:05:07 AM
jimricho said
07:37 AM May 22, 2011
I only brought up the propane/butane bit as I was wondering about the issue of freezing gas, it's not important in the grand scheme of things. Butane has a lower critical pressure than propane, hence its suitability for packaging in inexpensive cannisters similar to a pressure-pak container.
Those little cheapie single burner butane stoves are so cheap (and compact) that if you want two burners just buy two stoves. Barbecue plates are/were available but they cost more than the stove! (I have one, but have never used it!). I think I've seen wind shields for them somewhere too but one can always make or improvise.
Vic said
11:35 PM May 22, 2011
Good points Jim, thanks
Sheba said
02:20 AM May 23, 2011
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These 2 I think are in the UK, but can be bought on-line. Will keep looking for the Aussie one.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Monday 23rd of May 2011 02:44:38 AM
Vic said
11:11 AM May 24, 2011
Thanks for the info Sheba, the conversion people showed me the spirit stove they install and they looked good (so may go with that). They are two burner and the "tanks" are built inside the appliance in a pancake fashion under each burner and take up very little space.
It can also be removed for outdoor use.
-- Edited by Vic on Tuesday 24th of May 2011 11:15:35 AM
Due to weight concerns etc, I am having a gas (canned type) stove or spirity stove fitted to a campervan. With the gas one (fly spray can size cannisters) this can either be used inside the campervan or outside. The spirit one would be fixed.
For anyone who has used both these inside, do you get much of a smell from the spirit stove as compared to say the gas cannister stove please?
Pleas note I am not interested in having a gas bottle fitted and only want to use the ones mentioned above. Any feedback on these appreciated.
Vic
I dont know what type of sprit stove you are talking about but when I am off 4WDing I use a Coleman 2 burner dual fuel stove. I prefer to run it on Shellite rather than Petrol as it seems to give a cleaner burn, over time no sooting around the burner. However Shellite last time I purchased was around the $4/litre.
The only downside I found was that in the cold, less than 10C, it is a bit hard to fire up with a tendency to flare giving off fumes. This was much worse with Petrol than Shellite.
When burning normally I have not noticed any fumes and often make toast with one of those gauze things and dont notice any fuel taste. Great stove and has served me well for many years.
BTW When my parents took me camping as a youngster (60 year ago) they used all Kero gear. Used to prewarm the Kero in the burner with Metho then fire up the burner. Now that stuff did fume and smell plus add flavour.
And me. They are just so convenient.
Thanks for the feedback folks, I think the spirit one was run on metho Ron and Shirley. It may be that gas cannisters would be the way to go.
Either way both sound ok to use.
Hi ..
We use the propane ones that have been mentioned.
They were rather new on the market in 2000 & we were given one as a 'going away' present before we went 'round the block'. After trying it we put the primus thingo in the shed .. probably still there.
We now have two of them & often use then on top of the 5 burner BBQ at home rather than firing up the gas BBQ. Use them almost daily when vanning.
At $5 for 4 canisters of gas & the stove for around $14, they are the only way to go... just wish someone would market a two burner version!
ps.. We carry one in an old drill case with all the (mini) implements for a BBQ .. hot plate, tongs, knife, oil, kitchen paper, baking paper, wind tamers, alfoil, egg rings, rubbish bags, egg slice, spare gas cartridge, etc. .. never get caught out.
Thanks Cupie,
It seems all positive for the propane cannisters, and thanks to all for the positive feedback.
-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 21st of May 2011 12:15:17 AM
May or may not be relevant to Vic's inquiry but an adaptor is available for the type shown in Sheba's post that enables it to be connected to a standard POL type gas bottle. (4.5 or 9 kilo types)
I have one similar to Sheba's plus a barbecue plate for it that I set up as my "outside" stove when I'm camped up for several days or more. I just use the spare gas bottle from the front of van that I remove and place near the stove.
Note that it has to be connected to the high pressure (gas bottle) side of the regulator as the stove's own connector is fitted with its own regulator. It cannot be connected to a gas outlet on the van.
-- Edited by jimricho on Saturday 21st of May 2011 06:30:13 AM
Remember that Propane cannisters can freeze when it is very cold.
I have had a couple freeze up over the years.
The cannisters for those little cheapie stoves are actually butane not propane. The cannister that Sheba is referring to for the Coleman stove is propane, the same as in the normal gas cyliders. I only mention this as I don't know whether or not it is relevant to the freezing issue.
Oooops! Sorry if I misled anyone with my post ... It is the cheapie butane ones that I favour.
Has anyone seen one of those in a twin configuration?
sorry ..
ps. I recall that if you order dishes like Mongolian lamb in one of the many Asian resturants here, they often bring it to the table with one of these butane stoves (yes usually 'lucky' red ones). We are fortunate in my area to have dozens of great asian resturants.
Thanks for the extra feedback folks, I was told that on another forum there were reports of one of the small ones (butane) exploding as if the gas stand on them is covered by a large pot/frypan that overlaps the gas ring stand, the heat is reflected back onto the cannister and they will explode, something to be aware of. So looks like don't use with large pots/frypans........
Sorry Guys,
Going to fast again. Didn't nut out the difference between Propane and Butane. I have seen a Dual Burner Butane one being used in the back of a vehicle on one of the Outdoors Programmes on TV some time ago.
Lost the details when I lost my Favourites a couple of weeks ago, so I'm having trouble finding it again. Wish I could remember the Brand name. I'll keep looking.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Hi Sheba,
This Coleman one on Ebay (but in the UK) says it is a canister stove two burner but looks like the other one you posted earlier, see;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Coleman-PerfectFlow-2-Burner-Propane-Gas-Stove-2011-/170627221661?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSupplies_ET&hash=item27ba2cc89d
-- Edited by Vic on Sunday 22nd of May 2011 02:08:10 AM
-- Edited by Vic on Sunday 22nd of May 2011 02:10:28 AM
Not sure if this is the right one. Still looking.
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Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Sunday 22nd of May 2011 04:03:24 AM
-- Edited by Sheba on Sunday 22nd of May 2011 04:05:07 AM
Those little cheapie single burner butane stoves are so cheap (and compact) that if you want two burners just buy two stoves. Barbecue plates are/were available but they cost more than the stove! (I have one, but have never used it!). I think I've seen wind shields for them somewhere too but one can always make or improvise.
Good points Jim, thanks
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These 2 I think are in the UK, but can be bought on-line. Will keep looking for the Aussie one.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Monday 23rd of May 2011 02:44:38 AM
Thanks for the info Sheba, the conversion people showed me the spirit stove they install and they looked good (so may go with that). They are two burner and the "tanks" are built inside the appliance in a pancake fashion under each burner and take up very little space.
It can also be removed for outdoor use.
-- Edited by Vic on Tuesday 24th of May 2011 11:15:35 AM