Just read the Grey Nomads News about a woman bitten and dying after a brown snake strike, I'm inland from Parks and can tell you they are very abundant this year and have heard reports of the same in QLD. So be carefull .
Makes going to Tassie all that more exciting..........they tell me there are no snakes down there.
I hope that's the truth.
I HATE SNAKES!!!!
goinsoon said
07:27 PM Nov 6, 2011
have seen a couple of brownies here in Jimboomba qld. the last few days
elliemike said
07:54 PM Nov 6, 2011
I went to a lecture about snakes years ago with the Perth Bushwalkers Club. We were members themdays.
Brian Bush a well known snake handler, (with a table full of wriggleing bags) gave us a facinating talk about snakes.
I just got the following data from the net
More scary than snakes.
More than 20 people die each year in Australia from horse riding related accidents. Less than 2 a year die from a snakebite.
The deadliest of all Australian creatures, responsible for an average of 10 deaths per year, is the European Honey Bee, which can induce anaphylactic shock in some people.
The same happens in the UK, where there are an estimated 10 deaths a year attributed to wasp or bee stings.
About 30-60 people are struck by lightning each year in Britain and, on average, 3 of those may die.
Scuba diving causes 8 deaths a year here in Australia.
Dont even get me started on road traffic deaths!
So, you are statistically more likely to die going horse riding or scuba-diving, by being struck by lightning or stung by a bee or wasp or by simply getting about in a car.
sucastja said
10:04 PM Nov 6, 2011
Ma wrote:
Makes going to Tassie all that more exciting..........they tell me there are no snakes down there.
I hope that's the truth.
I HATE SNAKES!!!!
There are definately snakes in Tassie - saw one last time we were there in September last year!
Apparently they have King Tiger Snakes as well.
I think New Zealand might be the go - no snakes there.
I'm absolutely petrified of them
goinsoon said
10:06 PM Nov 6, 2011
They say that the most deadly snake is the one eyed trouser snake
Ma said
10:11 PM Nov 6, 2011
sucastja wrote:
Ma wrote:
Makes going to Tassie all that more exciting..........they tell me there are no snakes down there.
I hope that's the truth.
I HATE SNAKES!!!!
There are definately snakes in Tassie - saw one last time we were there in September last year!
Apparently they have King Tiger Snakes as well.
I think New Zealand might be the go - no snakes there.
I'm absolutely petrified of them
Thanks for that I'm sure............. And here's me thinking I would be safe......
goinsoon said
10:13 PM Nov 6, 2011
Ma wrote:
sucastja wrote:
Ma wrote:
Makes going to Tassie all that more exciting..........they tell me there are no snakes down there.
I hope that's the truth.
I HATE SNAKES!!!!
There are definately snakes in Tassie - saw one last time we were there in September last year!
Apparently they have King Tiger Snakes as well.
I think New Zealand might be the go - no snakes there.
I'm absolutely petrified of them
Thanks for that I'm sure............. And here's me thinking I would be safe......
SWMBO recons she sure is safe
Ma said
10:14 PM Nov 6, 2011
Would that be because you aren't going to Tassie GS???
Sheba said
10:15 PM Nov 6, 2011
I posted this a few days ago on another Forum. Some-one was talking about "taking on" any snakes he saw.
That's how most people get bitten by snakes. [Not the poor lady in the news.] They try to "take on" or kill a snake, and come to grief.
Normally, most snakes will try to get away from you as fast as they can, and usually only strike if they think they are trapped.
Most times, with either snakes or Crocs., it's the human who has done something stupid, and the animal gets the blame, and often killed.
Stupid people really give me the you know whats.
Cheers,
Sheba.
pauline said
10:17 PM Nov 6, 2011
I do know what Sheba, me I don't take on anything I can't sit down and break bread with.........couldn't think of anything else that was allowed.
-- Edited by pauline on Sunday 6th of November 2011 10:18:20 PM
goinsoon said
10:20 PM Nov 6, 2011
An old bushie once said to me "Son the quickest way ter git bit is to try n kill a six foot snake with a three foot stick"
Sadly that is what most people try to do.
The safest thing to do is to leave them alone, just steer clear
pauline said
10:23 PM Nov 6, 2011
Hallelullah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I think we would all agree with that. I know that is not the right spelling.
-- Edited by pauline on Sunday 6th of November 2011 10:24:19 PM
Sheba said
10:27 PM Nov 6, 2011
pauline wrote:
I do know what Sheba, me I don't take on anything I can't sit down and break bread with.........couldn't think of anything else that was allowed.
Good on you Pauline. Wish more people were sensible like you.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Gerty Dancer said
10:38 PM Nov 6, 2011
Darn right! Nobody's thinking of the snakes in all of this, they are much maligned creatures who eat a huge number of vermin such as mice. (Yes I know they like to raid the chook house and eat eggs too!)
goinsoon said
10:44 PM Nov 6, 2011
We are on 13 1/2 acres of fairly heavily bushed land at Jimboomba (eastern brown territory)
Snakes have free travel here, we have had green tree, carpet pythons and a couple of easterns but we just keep out of their way.
they keep the rats down, we kave seen both pythons and eastern browns taking rats around the chook shed and they have never bothered about the chooks
johnq said
11:25 PM Nov 6, 2011
It wouldn't hurt though to know how to recognise the symptoms - because a bite may not be recognisable (feel and look of site) - what to do and remember to carry 2Xbroad elastic bandages on walks especially in warm weather. There is plenty of food and plenty of snakes this season.
It also wouldn't hurt to remember that snakes are active on dark and around water and to be very careful collecting firewood. What about reconsidering the Japanese riding boots in the grass?
I went fishing with a fellow who claimed not to have seen a snake in years, but was able to show him a good sized Eastern Brown on the sandy verge while driving into the popular fishing spot. Many people are lucky not to get bitten and while some are (and may not realise it at the time) they are fortunate that the snake often doesn't bother to release venom - it meant only to threaten - but it would do so if the threat hurt or didn't immediately pass. Surviving full envenomation would be a big ask if a brown snake got serious, which the example of the unfortunate woman bitten recently should show. Condolences to her family and all who knew her.
It is worthwhile asking yourself what you would do if bitten by say a Tiger snake while wandering around a lake somewhere, particularly where the mobile is next to useless and help is far away.
Vic said
07:52 AM Nov 7, 2011
elliemike wrote:
I went to a lecture about snakes years ago with the Perth Bushwalkers Club. We were members themdays.
Brian Bush a well known snake handler, (with a table full of wriggleing bags) gave us a facinating talk about snakes.
Hi E & M,
I think it was the Perth Bushwalkers Club I belonged to as well and we had a talk by Brian Bush in Perth (small church hall I think it was in Northbridge near the library). He is still around and lives up in Mundaring area. Be funny if we were at the same lecture!
I did a stint as a caretaker up at Lake Leschenaultia last year and he was listed as one of two snake problem call out blokes;
Here is the link to his site, plenty of good info on there, scroll down to the info links at the bottom, especially the one that says snakes are more reliable than dogs (I don't believe that but a facinating story no less);
-- Edited by Vic on Monday 7th of November 2011 08:03:10 AM
Father Ted said
08:31 AM Nov 7, 2011
Oh woe for you Dwahma.There are more snakes in the summer months than you can iimagine.I lived and worked on the North West Coast near Savage River.I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the slimy critters were about in large numbers.Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Ma said
08:39 AM Nov 7, 2011
Thanks your holyness just what I wanted to hear..........NOT!!...
Father Ted said
08:57 AM Nov 7, 2011
My Child,would you have me lie to you?The snakes are so crafty that they roll up into a circle and actually chase your car.Whatever you do in Tassie one thing not to do is whistle especially if you are near a basket,just like being in India amongst the Fakirs.
-- Edited by Father Ted on Monday 7th of November 2011 08:59:16 AM
Ma said
12:02 PM Nov 7, 2011
Good thing I can't whistle then isn't it.............
Vic said
12:18 PM Nov 7, 2011
Father Ted wrote:
My Child,would you have me lie to you?The snakes are so crafty that they roll up into a circle and actually chase your car.Whatever you do in Tassie one thing not to do is whistle especially if you are near a basket,just like being in India amongst the Fakirs.
Also up north, the mozzies are that big that when they land on air strips the tankers rush out to meet them to refuel them thinking they are aircraft......
elliemike said
04:09 PM Nov 7, 2011
Vic wrote:
elliemike wrote:
I went to a lecture about snakes years ago with the Perth Bushwalkers Club. We were members themdays.
Brian Bush a well known snake handler, (with a table full of wriggleing bags) gave us a facinating talk about snakes.
Hi E & M,
I think it was the Perth Bushwalkers Club I belonged to as well and we had a talk by Brian Bush in Perth (small church hall I think it was in Northbridge near the library). He is still around and lives up in Mundaring area. Be funny if we were at the same lecture!
I did a stint as a caretaker up at Lake Leschenaultia last year and he was listed as one of two snake problem call out blokes;
Here is the link to his site, plenty of good info on there, scroll down to the info links at the bottom, especially the one that says snakes are more reliable than dogs (I don't believe that but a facinating story no less);
-- Edited by Vic on Monday 7th of November 2011 08:03:10 AM
The very same little Church. We were in the second row of seats from the front. Fellow in front of us very near went "A over G" when Brian Bush pulled a big cast off snake skin out of a bag, Dropped it fast and pretented it had bit him. Poor bloke almost came into our laps dodging the SNAKE. Me, no I was not spooked at all !!!!!!!
Yes we are Avan Members in WA.
Going to the meet up at Augusta next week.
Vic said
04:47 PM Nov 7, 2011
I can't remember where sat now or too much about it except it was very informative, especially about snakes being active at night hunting so be careful where you are treading etc, especially close to water (tiger snakes looking for frogs etc).
A'Van Club......I was a member for 7 years before earning the name Darth Vader for buying a Jayco when I sold my A'van.
Gary (secretary) and Sue have had their van written off (hail damage etc) and until they have another van are "visitors", rules say you must have an A'Van, they will be there at Augusta in a cabin or something, so say hello for me. I know a number of the older (time wise) members too, Tom & Carol, Vince & Jan, Joe and Marlene, Graham, Daryl, Judy etc etc (have forgotten some names).
I believe it is your X'mas do, so hope you all have a good time, they are a great club to belong to, many fond memories with them.
Brian88 said
06:32 PM Nov 7, 2011
I was playing the piano outside my van and a Western brown came along, for the show.I cut the instrument in half and put it under my bed which I raised,so I can play it inside with the air con and the snakes can listen outside.
Good idea about the piano Brian, I hope you don't fall out that bed though one night after happy hour, it doesn't look like it's got a safety rail, it could get a bit nasty if one of those western browns sneaked in cos they liked your music so much.
Brian88 said
06:56 PM Nov 7, 2011
I FIGURE I HAVENT FALLEN OUT OF A BED BEFORE,SO WHY WOULD I START.HOPE IT WORKS LIKE THAT.
Gerty Dancer said
07:20 PM Nov 7, 2011
Brian88 wrote:
I was playing the piano outside my van and a Western brown came along, for the show.
Well that disproves the theory that if you play music/make noise the snakes will keep away. Bugga!
Thank you Brian
Brian88 said
07:25 PM Nov 7, 2011
APPARENTLY YOU CAN BUY A SNAKE SCARER AROUND$200 THAT DOES MAKE A VIBRATION IN THE GROUND THAT SNAKES HATE, HEARD A DOG BREEDER WAS USING THEM, BECAUSE HE WAS LOOSING TO MANY DOGS TO SNAKE BITE,I MIGHT BE LOOKING INTO IT ALSO.
-- Edited by Brian88 on Monday 7th of November 2011 07:26:51 PM
Just read the Grey Nomads News about a woman bitten and dying after a brown snake strike, I'm inland from Parks and can tell you they are very abundant this year and have heard reports of the same in QLD. So be carefull .
Makes going to Tassie all that more exciting..........they tell me there are no snakes down there.
I hope that's the truth.
I HATE SNAKES!!!!
have seen a couple of brownies here in Jimboomba qld. the last few days
I went to a lecture about snakes years ago with the Perth Bushwalkers Club. We were members themdays.
Brian Bush a well known snake handler, (with a table full of wriggleing bags) gave us a facinating talk about snakes.
I just got the following data from the net
More scary than snakes.
More than 20 people die each year in Australia from horse riding related accidents. Less than 2 a year die from a snakebite.
So, you are statistically more likely to die going horse riding or scuba-diving, by being struck by lightning or stung by a bee or wasp or by simply getting about in a car.
There are definately snakes in Tassie - saw one last time we were there in September last year!
Apparently they have King Tiger Snakes as well.
I think New Zealand might be the go - no snakes there.
I'm absolutely petrified of them
They say that the most deadly snake is the one eyed trouser snake
Thanks for that I'm sure.............
And here's me thinking I would be safe......
SWMBO recons she sure is safe
Would that be because you aren't going to Tassie GS???
I posted this a few days ago on another Forum. Some-one was talking about "taking on" any snakes he saw.
That's how most people get bitten by snakes. [Not the poor lady in the news.] They try to "take on" or kill a snake, and come to grief.
Normally, most snakes will try to get away from you as fast as they can, and usually only strike if they think they are trapped.
Most times, with either snakes or Crocs., it's the human who has done something stupid, and the animal gets the blame, and often killed.
Stupid people really give me the you know whats.
Cheers,
Sheba.
I do know what Sheba, me I don't take on anything I can't sit down and break bread with.........couldn't think of anything else that was allowed.
-- Edited by pauline on Sunday 6th of November 2011 10:18:20 PM
An old bushie once said to me "Son the quickest way ter git bit is to try n kill a six foot snake with a three foot stick"
Sadly that is what most people try to do.
The safest thing to do is to leave them alone, just steer clear
Hallelullah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I think we would all agree with that. I know that is not the right spelling.
-- Edited by pauline on Sunday 6th of November 2011 10:24:19 PM
We are on 13 1/2 acres of fairly heavily bushed land at Jimboomba (eastern brown territory)
Snakes have free travel here, we have had green tree, carpet pythons and a couple of easterns but we just keep out of their way.
they keep the rats down, we kave seen both pythons and eastern browns taking rats around the chook shed and they have never bothered about the chooks
It also wouldn't hurt to remember that snakes are active on dark and around water and to be very careful collecting firewood. What about reconsidering the Japanese riding boots in the grass?
I went fishing with a fellow who claimed not to have seen a snake in years, but was able to show him a good sized Eastern Brown on the sandy verge while driving into the popular fishing spot. Many people are lucky not to get bitten and while some are (and may not realise it at the time) they are fortunate that the snake often doesn't bother to release venom - it meant only to threaten - but it would do so if the threat hurt or didn't immediately pass. Surviving full envenomation would be a big ask if a brown snake got serious, which the example of the unfortunate woman bitten recently should show. Condolences to her family and all who knew her.
It is worthwhile asking yourself what you would do if bitten by say a Tiger snake while wandering around a lake somewhere, particularly where the mobile is next to useless and help is far away.
Hi E & M,
I think it was the Perth Bushwalkers Club I belonged to as well and we had a talk by Brian Bush in Perth (small church hall I think it was in Northbridge near the library). He is still around and lives up in Mundaring area. Be funny if we were at the same lecture!
I did a stint as a caretaker up at Lake Leschenaultia last year and he was listed as one of two snake problem call out blokes;
Here is the link to his site, plenty of good info on there, scroll down to the info links at the bottom, especially the one that says snakes are more reliable than dogs (I don't believe that but a facinating story no less);
http://members.iinet.net.au/~bush/
PS: Are you members of the A'Van Club of WA?
-- Edited by Vic on Monday 7th of November 2011 08:03:10 AM
Oh woe for you Dwahma.There are more snakes in the summer months than you can iimagine.I lived and worked on the North West Coast near Savage River.I can tell you without fear of contradiction that the slimy critters were about in large numbers.Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Thanks your holyness just what I wanted to hear..........NOT!!...
My Child,would you have me lie to you?The snakes are so crafty that they roll up into a circle and actually chase your car.Whatever you do in Tassie one thing not to do is whistle especially if you are near a basket,just like being in India amongst the Fakirs.
-- Edited by Father Ted on Monday 7th of November 2011 08:59:16 AM
Good thing I can't whistle then isn't it.............
Also up north, the mozzies are that big that when they land on air strips the tankers rush out to meet them to refuel them thinking they are aircraft......
The very same little Church. We were in the second row of seats from the front. Fellow in front of us very near went "A over G" when Brian Bush pulled a big cast off snake skin out of a bag, Dropped it fast and pretented it had bit him. Poor bloke almost came into our laps dodging the SNAKE. Me, no I was not spooked at all !!!!!!!
Yes we are Avan Members in WA.
Going to the meet up at Augusta next week.
A'Van Club......I was a member for 7 years before earning the name Darth Vader for buying a Jayco when I sold my A'van.
Gary (secretary) and Sue have had their van written off (hail damage etc) and until they have another van are "visitors", rules say you must have an A'Van, they will be there at Augusta in a cabin or something, so say hello for me. I know a number of the older (time wise) members too, Tom & Carol, Vince & Jan, Joe and Marlene, Graham, Daryl, Judy etc etc (have forgotten some names).
I believe it is your X'mas do, so hope you all have a good time, they are a great club to belong to, many fond memories with them.
I was playing the piano outside my van and a Western brown came along, for the show.I cut the instrument in half and put it under my bed which I raised,so I can play it inside with the air con and the snakes can listen outside.
Good idea about the piano Brian, I hope you don't fall out that bed though one night after happy hour, it doesn't look like it's got a safety rail, it could get a bit nasty if one of those western browns sneaked in cos they liked your music so much.
Well that disproves the theory that if you play music/make noise the snakes will keep away. Bugga!
Thank you Brian
APPARENTLY YOU CAN BUY A SNAKE SCARER AROUND$200 THAT DOES MAKE A VIBRATION IN THE GROUND THAT SNAKES HATE, HEARD A DOG BREEDER WAS USING THEM, BECAUSE HE WAS LOOSING TO MANY DOGS TO SNAKE BITE,I MIGHT BE LOOKING INTO IT ALSO.
-- Edited by Brian88 on Monday 7th of November 2011 07:26:51 PM