We now have been going away just for the winter months for four yrs and have come acroos some really dirty free campsite most are from the backpackers not all but a lot .Some even use the site as a toilets.One couple back packer in a 4wd station waggon parked next to us at Avon Downs , when they left in the morning also left where they had gone to the toilet faece's was left just beside the car.And I have meet other travelers who say the same thing.
kandagal said
05:27 PM Nov 11, 2011
yes Cannylass We have found the same problem. Maybe a info sheet with the etiquette of camping should be standard issue with a rental camper
Boroma577 said
06:09 PM Nov 11, 2011
kandagal wrote:
yes Cannylass We have found the same problem. Maybe a info sheet with the etiquette of camping should be standard issue with a rental camper
Oh I wish.......and info on how harsh our climate can be, the importance of carrying sufficient water supplies along with some info on our cultural etiquette would not go astray either.
While we are on the subject, how about some instruction on 4WD safety too.
jimricho said
06:13 PM Nov 11, 2011
kandagal wrote:
yes Cannylass We have found the same problem. Maybe a info sheet with the etiquette of camping should be standard issue with a rental camper
These people are ferals and unlikely to take any notice of any info sheet.
Gerty Dancer said
07:11 PM Nov 11, 2011
I've commented several times about the filthy state of some rest spots/free camps. I didnt like to blame any one section of the travelling community, and have always been a bit concerned that mature travellers like most of us might be blamed for it.
Perhaps anybody seeing such behaviour might report it to the rental company if there was one... having said that I dont know what they could do about it either.
Does anybody know if its an actual crime that you can report to the police?
_wombat_ said
07:45 PM Nov 11, 2011
Gerty Dancer wrote:
I've commented several times about the filthy state of some rest spots/free camps. I didnt like to blame any one section of the travelling community, and have always been a bit concerned that mature travellers like most of us might be blamed for it.
Perhaps anybody seeing such behaviour might report it to the rental company if there was one... having said that I dont know what they could do about it either.
Does anybody know if its an actual crime that you can report to the police?
sorry for the pun but I think it would be too much paperwork for the police to deal with.
dazren said
07:51 PM Nov 11, 2011
I think it should be LAW that any person that travels in any type of vehicle, that a 'portapote of some discription, must be part of the essential camping equipment, and if one is found to be camping in an area that does not have some sort of toilet facility, and they do not have a portable toilet on board, then they should recieve a hefty fine, Also the companies that supply these 'wizzbangs' should BY LAW, Include a portable toilet as a mandority item of camping equipment,
[ I have had a hard day, and i now feel better after this Rant ] dazren
-- Edited by dazren on Friday 11th of November 2011 07:52:54 PM
dazren said
07:58 PM Nov 11, 2011
wombat wrote
sorry for the pun but I think it would be too much paperwork for the police to deal with.
Geez !! WOMBY. some times your puns are real 'crap' [ lol ]
Boroma577 said
08:27 PM Nov 11, 2011
dazren wrote:
I think it should be LAW that any person that travels in any type of vehicle, that a 'portapote of some discription, must be part of the essential camping equipment, and if one is found to be camping in an area that does not have some sort of toilet facility, and they do not have a portable toilet on board, then they should recieve a hefty fine, Also the companies that supply these 'wizzbangs' should BY LAW, Include a portable toilet as a mandority item of camping equipment,
My concern would then be their disposing of the contents....that is how and where they disposed of the contents.
Fairy-Nuff said
08:37 PM Nov 11, 2011
In Brisbane you can be fined for not carrying a doggy-doo bag when walking a dog. Perhaps the same fine could apply to campers.
Boroma577 said
08:40 PM Nov 11, 2011
Fairy-Nuff wrote:
In Brisbane you can be fined for not carrying a doggy-doo bag when walking a dog. Perhaps the same fine could apply to campers.
Carrying the appropriate items is one thing, it's getting people to use it appropriately that is the problem.
pauline said
08:53 PM Nov 11, 2011
Is it an age thing or what, I just can't see GN's doing this sort of thing.......................I am not ancient but I still know how to act properly in a civil society.
jimricho said
08:57 PM Nov 11, 2011
Fairy-Nuff wrote:
In Brisbane you can be fined for not carrying a doggy-doo bag when walking a dog. Perhaps the same fine could apply to campers.
I don't want to be around to see a backpacker pooing in a doggy-doo bag!
Boroma577 said
09:03 PM Nov 11, 2011
pauline wrote:
Is it an age thing or what, I just can't see GN's doing this sort of thing.......................I am not ancient but I still know how to act properly in a civil society.
Not only age Pauline but a lack of respect for others too.
Dave83 said
09:29 PM Nov 11, 2011
I doubt that contacting the hire companies will do much good - just check out this page on the Wicked Campers site for an example of their attitude to responsibility - http://www.wickedcampers.com.au/cheap-campervans/specials-deals/686-smoke-pot-special.html
However, perhaps contacting the local council and instead of trying to dob in backpackers who will no doubt be gone the next day anyway, what about dobbing in the hire company? Enough complaints, and enough pressure from councils, and the hire companies might start taking some responsibility for educating their customers.
Boroma577 said
09:38 PM Nov 11, 2011
A very valid point Dave.
_wombat_ said
09:09 AM Nov 12, 2011
dazren wrote:
wombat wrote
sorry for the pun but I think it would be too much paperwork for the police to deal with.
Geez !! WOMBY. some times your puns are real 'crap' [ lol ]
good one dazren
_wombat_ said
09:10 AM Nov 12, 2011
jimricho wrote:
Fairy-Nuff wrote:
In Brisbane you can be fined for not carrying a doggy-doo bag when walking a dog. Perhaps the same fine could apply to campers.
I don't want to be around to see a backpacker pooing in a doggy-doo bag!
another good one jimricho
Gerty Dancer said
09:13 AM Nov 12, 2011
Dave83 wrote:
I doubt that contacting the hire companies will do much good - just check out this page on the Wicked Campers site for an example of their attitude to responsibility - http://www.wickedcampers.com.au/cheap-campervans/specials-deals/686-smoke-pot-special.html
However, perhaps contacting the local council and instead of trying to dob in backpackers who will no doubt be gone the next day anyway, what about dobbing in the hire company? Enough complaints, and enough pressure from councils, and the hire companies might start taking some responsibility for educating their customers.
Excellent idea Dave!
beiffe said
09:21 AM Nov 12, 2011
One of the worst I met was a BIG Yankee MH who proudly proclaimed he had NEVER used a dump point. he always just dumped before he left the camp site and remarked (It don't stink for long). Advised that if he considered that OK why did he not dump when he got to a site RIGHT under his door step.
I was goiving him a guided tour of where I was doing voluntary work and when we had this little discussion I advise that the tour was over and he was to leave the site and bid him fair well and advised I hoped I NEVER met him on the road.
Many Tourist are OK when you have a gentle discussion on the care and maintenance of our country. I usually start by doing an emu parade right [past their van and then bid them good day and start a chat. Works most times and many join in for the walk. We forget they don't have open spaces like we do and they are used to being cleaned up afterwards. Just think of our own kids and grandkids, many are too lazy to leave their rooms and lucky to dress themselves etc.
Regards Brian
animalcarer said
09:45 AM Nov 12, 2011
The good the bad and the ugly. Some people are just pigs, as I said once before, nz has terrible terrible public toilets, I certainly dont miss that. I guess as Pauline said, some of us know how to conduct ourselves in a ladylike and genteel manner, and then there are others who let it all hang out so to speak.
_wombat_ said
09:51 AM Nov 12, 2011
I have a problem just getting onto a toilet seat
cannylass said
01:23 PM Nov 12, 2011
Even if no notice was taken of an information sheet, I feel one should be given by these hire companies and let them know we will be on the look out for any one who leaves the camping area in such a state we then can take there car or what ever they are travelling in a rego number and report them to the hire company who should maybe take an extra deposit from the camper just a thought
_wombat_ said
02:02 PM Nov 12, 2011
as has already been said, I do not think the hire company will do much about it, they have their money and that's all thy want.
We now have been going away just for the winter months for four yrs and have come acroos some really dirty free campsite most are from the backpackers not all but a lot .Some even use the site as a toilets.One couple back packer in a 4wd station waggon parked next to us at Avon Downs , when they left in the morning also left where they had gone to the toilet faece's was left just beside the car.And I have meet other travelers who say the same thing.
Oh I wish.......and info on how harsh our climate can be, the importance of carrying sufficient water supplies along with some info on our cultural etiquette would not go astray either.
While we are on the subject, how about some instruction on 4WD safety too.
These people are ferals and unlikely to take any notice of any info sheet.
Perhaps anybody seeing such behaviour might report it to the rental company if there was one... having said that I dont know what they could do about it either.
Does anybody know if its an actual crime that you can report to the police?
sorry for the pun but I think it would be too much paperwork for the police to deal with.
I think it should be LAW that any person that travels in any type of vehicle, that a 'portapote of some discription, must be part of the essential camping equipment, and if one is found to be camping in an area that does not have some sort of toilet facility, and they do not have a portable toilet on board, then they should recieve a hefty fine, Also the companies that supply these 'wizzbangs' should BY LAW, Include a portable toilet as a mandority item of camping equipment,
[ I have had a hard day, and i now feel better after this Rant ] dazren
-- Edited by dazren on Friday 11th of November 2011 07:52:54 PM
wombat wrote
sorry for the pun but I think it would be too much paperwork for the police to deal with.
Geez !! WOMBY. some times your puns are real 'crap' [ lol ]
My concern would then be their disposing of the contents....that is how and where they disposed of the contents.
Carrying the appropriate items is one thing, it's getting people to use it appropriately that is the problem.
I don't want to be around to see a backpacker pooing in a doggy-doo bag!
Not only age Pauline but a lack of respect for others too.
However, perhaps contacting the local council and instead of trying to dob in backpackers who will no doubt be gone the next day anyway, what about dobbing in the hire company? Enough complaints, and enough pressure from councils, and the hire companies might start taking some responsibility for educating their customers.
A very valid point Dave.
good one dazren
another good one jimricho
Excellent idea Dave!
I was goiving him a guided tour of where I was doing voluntary work and when we had this little discussion I advise that the tour was over and he was to leave the site and bid him fair well and advised I hoped I NEVER met him on the road.
Many Tourist are OK when you have a gentle discussion on the care and maintenance of our country. I usually start by doing an emu parade right [past their van and then bid them good day and start a chat. Works most times and many join in for the walk. We forget they don't have open spaces like we do and they are used to being cleaned up afterwards. Just think of our own kids and grandkids, many are too lazy to leave their rooms and lucky to dress themselves etc.
Regards
Brian
I guess as Pauline said, some of us know how to conduct ourselves in a ladylike and genteel manner, and then there are others who let it all hang out so to speak.
I have a problem just getting onto a toilet seat
as has already been said, I do not think the hire company will do much about it, they have their money and that's all thy want.