Did you know New Zealand is the first country in the world to welcome the new day.
That means Aussies have 2nd pick after us Kiwis. Maybe that means we also have first pick out of Santa's bag.
.
Happywanderer said
06:09 PM Dec 25, 2011
Yes I did know that kiwi-as. lol
Hope your weather is better than mine. We've had a thunderstorm been going on and off since about 11pm last night.
valnrob said
06:26 PM Dec 25, 2011
Oooooooooohhhh Kiwi-as...... you're gonna cop it you know that don't ya ????? all that baiting going on !!! hahaaha
Kiwi-as said
07:36 PM Dec 25, 2011
Bring it on!!!!! I expect some support from fellow Kiwi's,Val and Rob.
bill12 said
07:58 PM Dec 25, 2011
Every thing in kiwi land is normaly second hand , so us aussies don,t mind . I think Kirabat , close to the international date line comes first, but its probably a kiwi dependacy.Don,t bite too much, its only a joke. Bill
Kiwi-as said
08:02 PM Dec 25, 2011
If you give it Bill you have to take it,i say.
valnrob said
08:53 PM Dec 25, 2011
yep..... tons of support Kiwi-as. I enjoy a bit of Kiwi/Aussie banter !! Ends the old year quite nicely I say !!
animalcarer said
07:32 AM Dec 26, 2011
Actually Mt Hikurangi in the North Island, (east coast area) is the first place to catch the sun in the world. Howie and Ihave climbed it.
I love Australia, we would never go back. My great great grandfather was part of the Burke and Wills expedition, camel driver, with the sepoys (afgan traders). He was a 6ft 7in welshman,
So I guess I was supposed to live in australia, as I have the wanderlust in my blood. Australia has been good to us.
We consider ourselves australians now, that were born in nz
Happy new year to one and all where ever you came from.
Delta18 said
09:35 AM Dec 26, 2011
animalcarer wrote:
We consider ourselves australians now, that were born in nz
Funny that, I think most people born in NZ think they are Australians. Must be something to do with more generous dole payments!
(try that for bait ha ha)
elliemike said
11:54 AM Dec 26, 2011
Delta18 wrote:
animalcarer wrote:
We consider ourselves australians now, that were born in nz
Funny that, I think most people born in NZ think they are Australians. Must be something to do with more generous dole payments!
(try that for bait ha ha)
Can you explain that for me?
I thought there was no "Dole" for people who had not paid tax here, (that is had a Job)
I realise refugees get some payments How much does a person get per week !
Anyone got the proper figures for Dole payments and how you get them. What the are true $ paid per week.
I am an immigrant and have never ever been on the Dole in any country.
animalcarer said
01:54 PM Dec 26, 2011
Can you please explain that comment???? Confused????
Are you assuming something about me, or is that a general assumption???
I was talking about living in this wonder ful country, how can dole payments??
Come into this equation. I am trying to grasp your intellect.
Historical fact that new zealanders are free settlers, . If you want to get the comparison stick out and measure up...
New Zealanders are paid pensions from nz, while living in australia.
JustJim said
06:05 PM Dec 26, 2011
Here are some time zones, dates, and other stuff for your consideration..
Both Kiribati and Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) are west of the 'nominal' 180 degree International Date Line, but both places take their date and time as - 'East of Greenwich'..
That is - Both those island nations are GMT + 14 hours.. (New Zealand is GMT + 12 hours..)
Both Kiribati and Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) don't take any daylight saving time - so during summer New Zealand catches up to them by one hour 'on the clock', but is still one hour behind both the above places.
So in the political scheme of things both Kiribati and Kiritimati see the new day before New Zealand.
Lynette - I'll take you to task - in a nice way of course.. You're correct in saying.. 'Mt Hikurangi in the North Island, (east coast area) is the first place to catch the sun..' But - Mt Hikurangi is the first place on mainland New Zealand to see the sun..
Kiribati, Kiritimati and (soon) Samoa, (and some other smaller islands) see in the new day before New Zealand.
(By the way - The top of Mt Warning is the first place on mainland Australia to see the sun)
Of interest.. Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) is due south of Hawaii - but is a day ahead of Hawaii.
(Hawaii's time is GMT - (minus) 10 hrs.. Two hours behind the West coast USA.
(In time parlance - Plus 14 hours east and minus 10 hours west, are the same time, but a day different)
Still of interest.. Samoa sits right on the (now nominal) International date line..
In May this year Samoa decided to skip over the 31st December 2011 (in a few days) and leap from 12 hours west of Greenwich to 12 hours east of Greenwich - to align more with NZ, Australia, Asia and China.
Off the track a bit more, but still interesting.. In 2009, Samoa enacted a law that switched driving from the right to the left side of the road, to bring Samoa into line with Australia and New Zealand.
It was said the change would make it easier for Samoans in Australia and New Zealand to send used cars home to their relatives. Opponents predicted traffic disruption, but this did not happen.
Tuilaepa (The Samoan Prime Minister) said: "Today we do a lot more business with New Zealand and Australia, China and Pacific Rim countries such as Singapore." The change of date would make commerce with the Asia-Pacific region "far, far easier".
This reinforces what I keep suggesting to the - 'Yanks online' (Who also cannot see any sense in the Metric System but that's another story)..
The left side is the right side, and the right side is the wrong side
But I digress.. I'm writing this from New Zealand's north island now and some observations and comparisons are..
Observations.. *.. It sure helps when the whole country is in one time zone. *.. It sure helps when there is one set of road rules for the whole country.. (That's a biggie) *.. It sure helps when fuel prices dont vary - or prices vary very little from one end of the country to the other.. (They may be higher than in Oz, but you know what the price is going to be)
Times.. (Approx Local time now - Kapati Coast.. 8.00pm)
In Kiribati and Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) it's now about 9.00pm. Throughout New Zealand it's about 8.00pm (DST). NSW, Vic and Tas - it's 6.00pm (EDST) SA - 5.30pm (EDST) Qld - 5.00pm (No fading curtains there - I'll bet) WA - 3.00 pm.. etc..
I hope Ive confused 'you all' with all the above information, enough to get you checking things to find the mistakes Ive made..
Brandt and Lorraine - surely your nickname should be - 'Kiwi-es'..(bro)? I hope you have great adventures around Australia in your new van and truck - and you write stories about it all.
Jim
By the way.. As an Aussie with connections to New Zealand, I would comment.. If anyone wishes to start a thread about benefits, and what happens with them between the two countries please do so..
But I feel this thread is about time zones where we see the sun and stuff like that.
-- Edited by JustJim on Monday 26th of December 2011 06:09:04 PM
Beth54 said
06:27 PM Dec 26, 2011
Agree with JustJim...I don't think anyone should be 'baiting' anyone. There are enough arguments out there without 'baiting' people.
FYI...I'm Australian born and bred, and have no problem with New Zealanders making Australia their home.
_wombat_ said
07:18 PM Dec 26, 2011
JustJim, your smiley avatar just died
Kiwi-as said
08:30 PM Dec 26, 2011
Merry Christmas all. Sorry if people took my posting a little heavy. Was ment to be taken in a light hearted way. Life is to short to take those sort of things seriously. Are certainly looking forward to Feb. start. Seems to be rain and storms every where over there at the moment, was hoping the weather patterns would have settled down by the time we come over. Has been a lovely couple of days over here, sunny and calm. Have not planned any boating as the weather is going to gradually deteriorate into rain by the weekend. Its that Cyclone off Gold Coast thats doing the damage i think.Dare i say you should keep your Cyclones to yourselves and not send them over!!!!
JustJim said
08:33 PM Dec 26, 2011
Thanks for your support Beth.. Anyone who has a problem with 'whatever' - should start a thread about the particular 'problem' they see..
I've been reminded by my Kiwi partner - The Chatham Islands are part of New Zealand. (These Kiwi chicks are a stroppy lot.. or is that also straying off the subject too much?)
The islands are roughly 800 km's due west of Christchurch - off the coast of NZ's south island - and are close to the International Date Line.. The Islands take their own time - 45 minutes ahead of New Zealand time..
I guess the question is not all that simple as to who sees the sunrise first on a new day?
I feel one might have to take a tour around all the Pacific islands - to see for one's self just when and where the sun rises first on a new day..
It may be a tough job - but someone has to do it..
Jim
Gerty Dancer said
07:04 PM Dec 27, 2011
Back onto time zones... Remember when the world was supposed to going to end at Midnight on Dec 31 1999 because the computers would all stop working? Well NZ being the first to get to midnight, over here we were watching the news to make sure your lights didnt go out, and when your "Happy New Year" celebrations were broadcast we all relaxed. (Lotsa people never admitted they were worried though!)
milo said
07:19 PM Dec 27, 2011
if you want a good world clock on your computer this one is great, it has a map of the world and you can choose to have the locations you want on it,
-- Edited by milo on Tuesday 27th of December 2011 07:20:11 PM
valnrob said
07:45 PM Dec 27, 2011
Agree with JustJim...I don't think anyone should be 'baiting' anyone. There are enough arguments out there without 'baiting' people.
Sorry Beth54 bad choice of words on my part. (baiting) Didn't mean to upset anyone. Just the usual banter between Aussies and Kiwi's.
Delta18 said
08:15 PM Dec 27, 2011
It is sad that the day seems to have come that the good humoured banter between ozzies & kiwis has gone down the 'politically correct' path along with all the other things that we once took for granted.
No more nursury rhymes, eny meeny minee moe...baa baa (has to be coloured now) sheep. Heaven help the guy that whistles at a pretty girl and now, obviously, no more taking the micky out of our Tasman neighbours.
Sorry folks if I offended anyone with my, sometimes, offbeat humour, it is the only one I have. I think Val & Rob know where I'm coming from though.
Happy New year
Neil.
-- Edited by Delta18 on Tuesday 27th of December 2011 08:18:07 PM
valnrob said
08:27 PM Dec 27, 2011
I just took it all in good humour.... the world has gone crazy with it's Political Correctness. Oh bring back the good old days puleeez !!!
Did you know New Zealand is the first country in the world to welcome the new day.
That means Aussies have 2nd pick after us Kiwis. Maybe that means we also have first pick out of Santa's bag.
.
Hope your weather is better than mine. We've had a thunderstorm been going on and off since about 11pm last night.
Actually Mt Hikurangi in the North Island, (east coast area) is the first place to catch the sun in the world. Howie and Ihave climbed it.
I love Australia, we would never go back.
My great great grandfather was part of the Burke and Wills expedition, camel driver, with the sepoys (afgan traders). He was a 6ft 7in welshman,
So I guess I was supposed to live in australia, as I have the wanderlust in my blood. Australia has been good to us.
We consider ourselves australians now, that were born in nz
Happy new year to one and all where ever you came from.
Funny that, I think most people born in NZ think they are Australians. Must be something to do with more generous dole payments!
(try that for bait ha ha)
Can you explain that for me?
I thought there was no "Dole" for people who had not paid tax here, (that is had a Job)
I realise refugees get some payments How much does a person get per week !
Anyone got the proper figures for Dole payments and how you get them. What the are true $ paid per week.
I am an immigrant and have never ever been on the Dole in any country.
Can you please explain that comment???? Confused????
Are you assuming something about me, or is that a general assumption???
I was talking about living in this wonder ful country, how can dole payments??
Come into this equation. I am trying to grasp your intellect.
Historical fact that new zealanders are free settlers, . If you want to get the comparison stick out and measure up...
New Zealanders are paid pensions from nz, while living in australia.
Here are some time zones, dates, and other stuff for your consideration..
Both Kiribati and Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) are west of the 'nominal' 180 degree International Date Line, but both places take their date and time as - 'East of Greenwich'..
That is - Both those island nations are GMT + 14 hours..
(New Zealand is GMT + 12 hours..)
Both Kiribati and Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) don't take any daylight saving time - so during summer New Zealand catches up to them by one hour 'on the clock', but is still one hour behind both the above places.
So in the political scheme of things both Kiribati and Kiritimati see the new day before New Zealand.
Lynette - I'll take you to task - in a nice way of course..
You're correct in saying..
'Mt Hikurangi in the North Island, (east coast area) is the first place to catch the sun..'
But - Mt Hikurangi is the first place on mainland New Zealand to see the sun..
Kiribati, Kiritimati and (soon) Samoa, (and some other smaller islands) see in the new day before New Zealand.
(By the way - The top of Mt Warning is the first place on mainland Australia to see the sun)
Of interest..
Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) is due south of Hawaii - but is a day ahead of Hawaii.
(Hawaii's time is GMT - (minus) 10 hrs.. Two hours behind the West coast USA.
(In time parlance - Plus 14 hours east and minus 10 hours west, are the same time, but a day different)
Still of interest..
Samoa sits right on the (now nominal) International date line..
In May this year Samoa decided to skip over the 31st December 2011 (in a few days) and leap from 12 hours west of Greenwich to 12 hours east of Greenwich - to align more with NZ, Australia, Asia and China.
Off the track a bit more, but still interesting..
In 2009, Samoa enacted a law that switched driving from the right to the left side of the road, to bring Samoa into line with Australia and New Zealand.
It was said the change would make it easier for Samoans in Australia and New Zealand to send used cars home to their relatives.
Opponents predicted traffic disruption, but this did not happen.
Tuilaepa (The Samoan Prime Minister) said:
"Today we do a lot more business with New Zealand and Australia, China and Pacific Rim countries such as Singapore."
The change of date would make commerce with the Asia-Pacific region "far, far easier".
This reinforces what I keep suggesting to the - 'Yanks online' (Who also cannot see any sense in the Metric System but that's another story)..
The left side is the right side, and the right side is the wrong side
But I digress..
I'm writing this from New Zealand's north island now and some observations and comparisons are..
Observations..
*..
It sure helps when the whole country is in one time zone.
*..
It sure helps when there is one set of road rules for the whole country.. (That's a biggie)
*..
It sure helps when fuel prices dont vary - or prices vary very little from one end of the country to the other..
(They may be higher than in Oz, but you know what the price is going to be)
Times..
(Approx Local time now - Kapati Coast.. 8.00pm)
In Kiribati and Kiritimati (Christmas Island Pacific) it's now about 9.00pm.
Throughout New Zealand it's about 8.00pm (DST).
NSW, Vic and Tas - it's 6.00pm (EDST)
SA - 5.30pm (EDST)
Qld - 5.00pm (No fading curtains there - I'll bet)
WA - 3.00 pm..
etc..
I hope Ive confused 'you all' with all the above information, enough to get you checking things to find the mistakes Ive made..
Brandt and Lorraine - surely your nickname should be - 'Kiwi-es'..(bro)?
I hope you have great adventures around Australia in your new van and truck - and you write stories about it all.
Jim
By the way..
As an Aussie with connections to New Zealand, I would comment..
If anyone wishes to start a thread about benefits, and what happens with them between the two countries please do so..
But I feel this thread is about time zones where we see the sun and stuff like that.
-- Edited by JustJim on Monday 26th of December 2011 06:09:04 PM
Agree with JustJim...I don't think anyone should be 'baiting' anyone. There are enough arguments out there without 'baiting' people.
FYI...I'm Australian born and bred, and have no problem with New Zealanders making Australia their home.
JustJim, your smiley avatar just died
Thanks for your support Beth..
Anyone who has a problem with 'whatever' - should start a thread about the particular 'problem' they see..
I've been reminded by my Kiwi partner - The Chatham Islands are part of New Zealand.
(These Kiwi chicks are a stroppy lot.. or is that also straying off the subject too much?)
The islands are roughly 800 km's due west of Christchurch - off the coast of NZ's south island - and are close to the International Date Line..
The Islands take their own time - 45 minutes ahead of New Zealand time..
I guess the question is not all that simple as to who sees the sunrise first on a new day?
I feel one might have to take a tour around all the Pacific islands - to see for one's self just when and where the sun rises first on a new day..
It may be a tough job - but someone has to do it..
Jim
if you want a good world clock on your computer this one is great, it has a map of the world
and you can choose to have the locations you want on it,
http://mapmaker.com/Sun%20Clock/Sun%20Clock%207.htm
-- Edited by milo on Tuesday 27th of December 2011 07:20:11 PM
Sorry Beth54 bad choice of words on my part. (baiting) Didn't mean to upset anyone. Just the usual banter between Aussies and Kiwi's.
It is sad that the day seems to have come that the good humoured banter between ozzies & kiwis has gone down the 'politically correct' path along with all the other things that we once took for granted.
No more nursury rhymes, eny meeny minee moe...baa baa (has to be coloured now) sheep. Heaven help the guy that whistles at a pretty girl and now, obviously, no more taking the micky out of our Tasman neighbours.
Sorry folks if I offended anyone with my, sometimes, offbeat humour, it is the only one I have. I think Val & Rob know where I'm coming from though.
Happy New year
Neil.
-- Edited by Delta18 on Tuesday 27th of December 2011 08:18:07 PM