Still waiting to hear how Road Ranger gets Diesel for 18 cents a litre. Is it home-made Bio-Diesel ?
Cheers,
Sheba.
Gerty Dancer said
09:26 AM Jan 18, 2012
Some people make their own "diesel" out of recycled fish'n'chip shop oil with some additives.
Sheba said
11:39 AM Jan 18, 2012
That's what I'm talking about Gerty. This was his original statement
Diesel only costs me 18 cents per litre, I don't know what you lot are doing wrong more than likly getting it from the wrong place.
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Wednesday 18th of January 2012 11:43:27 AM
blaze said
12:09 PM Jan 18, 2012
Do a google, there are lots of recipe for making the different sorts. Would not use it in a modern deisel though. Its ok in the older mechanical injector pump types. A fair amount of work goes into the filtering and correct blending so ideally you need to be time rich cheers blaze
gypsynolmate said
01:04 PM Jan 18, 2012
I would also like to know the recipe for 18c. Diesel. About to become Grey Nomads permanently on the road, so every bit of savings helps.
jules47 said
01:15 PM Jan 18, 2012
Few years ago, knew a bloke who was making his own diesel fuel for his deisel Mercedes - going ok, but one day blew his shed up, ended up in hospital with burns, charged by police, fined, and castigated by his employer. It is a process where you have to be very careful - and perhaps not suited to the newer diesel engines, as stated above.
Zoomtopz said
02:38 PM Jan 18, 2012
AGREE Blaze , anything 70s-80s , But especially mid 90s on .
With the filters & seals , it would end up costing MUCH , Much more to
repair than what you would save .
Richo
Road Ranger said
04:09 PM Jan 18, 2012
G'day Sheba I knew you when you used another name, have you moved on from your old camp too?
18 cents a litre is easy done 20% methanol, and some caustic soda into well filtered used cooking oil (best to use blended veg oil or better still sunflower oil) brought up to 65 deg mixed and stirred for a couple of hours and left to settle and bingo great diesel some mates have been using it for years and after pulling the engine down after 200,000 mile the engine was as good as new. Some blokes have set the shed on fire , this is because they didn't know what they were doing, there is quite a bit more to it than I have stated above you must do a titration to find the acidity of your oil first to see how much caustic soda to use etc, etc. I use it in modern diesels and old tractors over thirty years old, diesel engines were never designed to run on mineral oil but designed for peanut oil by Mr diesel There is a lot of people out there that make statements with out personal experience with bio diesel, these statements usually always come from others that have made a failed batch and didn't know how to make it properly in the first place, this is why Rob wrote the book.
there is a book available called Bio diesel made simple by Robert Sharman who lives not far from me he has been making bio diesel for years (we used to do a bit of flying together twenty years ago) and is a genius on this and other things including solar power he has also written a book on this subject. If any one is interested I can post his contact details on this site for his books
Joe said
04:45 PM Jan 18, 2012
Aren't you supposed to pay the government the same level of tax as Caltex and BP etc?
I am sure that this was made law some while ago, or is there a loophole for people producing less than "X" litres per year?
aussietraveller said
05:07 PM Jan 18, 2012
anyone know how to make LPG or Petrol for same price
Cruising Granny said
05:17 PM Jan 18, 2012
I'd like to know why fuels, all fuels, are the high prices they are. Especially diesel, which costs less to process. We are all being ripped off, by the fuel companies, the distributors and the government through excise/taxes. Why is it that people who have to pay the most for everything get no say in how this is decided?
bill12 said
02:51 AM Jan 19, 2012
I used to make biodiesel in my shed, and passed some hundreds of litres thru my hilux. In the end , it just got too much of a hassle, and subsequently, I found it was illegal to do in my house shed, due to fire regs here.The older diesels run great on it but you have to be fairly meticulous in the chemicals and filtration.I still have the bio generater out the back of the shed.The modern high pressure injection systems do Not like biodiesel, and can be horendously expensive to fix if you get it wrong. A crd hilux fuel system runs to $8000 to replace, so its not recomended.Good idea, though. Bill
Antique Pete said
03:32 AM Jan 19, 2012
In answer to Cruising Granny
I read an article about the trading of oil on the stock market if this was not done oil would be around $25 to 30 dollars a barrel.
You wait untill they trade the air we breath ( carbon tax ) and see the price rise and the rorts that come to light
Zoomtopz said
05:53 AM Jan 19, 2012
As I said earlier , it may have been ok for Earlier fuel systems ,
but with electronic - computerised systems IT WILL cost heaps in
repairs . Kurt Johanson used to get a days travel on 2 Mulga trees in
an old Studebaker , Ford Falcon 200 motors were the best motor in Aussie
to turbo .It Has all changed . Old Inter - the LPG used to go through the
carby , you should see the gear I have on my 3fe motor in my Cruiser &
V6 Stumpy Pajero - both fuel injected . I find Most people Overfuel as they
drive & don't let the torque of the vehicle do it's job.
My 2/0 worth.
Richo.
Cruising Granny said
06:44 AM Jan 19, 2012
Antique Pete wrote:
In answer to Cruising Granny
I read an article about the trading of oil on the stock market if this was not done oil would be around $25 to 30 dollars a barrel.
You wait untill they trade the air we breath ( carbon tax ) and see the price rise and the rorts that come to light
Once again, our votes don't mean anything. And that's the only way we have of expressing ourselves about the way the governments treat us.
The carbon tax is a cas in point. SHE said there would be no carbon tax in the government she led. Technically SHE is right. SHE doesn't lead the current government, Greenie Bob Brown does.
traveling bob said
07:53 PM Jan 19, 2012
I have a mate who runs his motorhome ( bedford bus converted) on used cooking oil and has done so for years. All it costs him is his time to heat and filter it. He starts an d shut down on diesel.
Road Ranger said
11:21 PM Jan 19, 2012
G'day again, I have talked to Rob Sharman about this forum and he said he will try and find time to have a look and possibly answer some questions on the subject, other than that you can go to tasmanenergy.com.au and have a look. There are some interesting stuff, and just another point, to produce bio for around 18 cents you would need to recover your methanol through a distillation process as this is an expensive ingredient, a two hundred litre drum costs around $250 over here.
Still waiting to hear how Road Ranger gets Diesel for 18 cents a litre. Is it home-made Bio-Diesel ?
Cheers,
Sheba.
That's what I'm talking about Gerty. This was his original statement
Diesel only costs me 18 cents per litre, I don't know what you lot are doing wrong more than likly getting it from the wrong place.
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Wednesday 18th of January 2012 11:43:27 AM
cheers
blaze
I would also like to know the recipe for 18c. Diesel. About to become Grey Nomads permanently on the road, so every bit of savings helps.
AGREE Blaze , anything 70s-80s , But especially mid 90s on .
With the filters & seals , it would end up costing MUCH , Much more to
repair than what you would save .
Richo
G'day Sheba I knew you when you used another name, have you moved on from your old camp too?
18 cents a litre is easy done 20% methanol, and some caustic soda into well filtered used cooking oil (best to use blended veg oil or better still sunflower oil) brought up to 65 deg mixed and stirred for a couple of hours and left to settle and bingo great diesel some mates have been using it for years and after pulling the engine down after 200,000 mile the engine was as good as new.
Some blokes have set the shed on fire , this is because they didn't know what they were doing, there is quite a bit more to it than I have stated above you must do a titration to find the acidity of your oil first to see how much caustic soda to use etc, etc. I use it in modern diesels and old tractors over thirty years old, diesel engines were never designed to run on mineral oil but designed for peanut oil by Mr diesel
There is a lot of people out there that make statements with out personal experience with bio diesel, these statements usually always come from others that have made a failed batch and didn't know how to make it properly in the first place, this is why Rob wrote the book.
there is a book available called Bio diesel made simple by Robert Sharman who lives not far from me he has been making bio diesel for years (we used to do a bit of flying together twenty years ago) and is a genius on this and other things including solar power he has also written a book on this subject.
If any one is interested I can post his contact details on this site for his books
I am sure that this was made law some while ago, or is there a loophole for people producing less than "X" litres per year?
We are all being ripped off, by the fuel companies, the distributors and the government through excise/taxes.
Why is it that people who have to pay the most for everything get no say in how this is decided?
In answer to Cruising Granny
I read an article about the trading of oil on the stock market if this was not done oil would be around $25 to 30 dollars a barrel.
You wait untill they trade the air we breath ( carbon tax ) and see the price rise and the rorts that come to light
As I said earlier , it may have been ok for Earlier fuel systems ,
but with electronic - computerised systems IT WILL cost heaps in
repairs . Kurt Johanson used to get a days travel on 2 Mulga trees in
an old Studebaker , Ford Falcon 200 motors were the best motor in Aussie
to turbo .It Has all changed . Old Inter - the LPG used to go through the
carby , you should see the gear I have on my 3fe motor in my Cruiser &
V6 Stumpy Pajero - both fuel injected . I find Most people Overfuel as they
drive & don't let the torque of the vehicle do it's job.
My 2/0 worth.
Richo.
Once again, our votes don't mean anything. And that's the only way we have of expressing ourselves about the way the governments treat us.
The carbon tax is a cas in point. SHE said there would be no carbon tax in the government she led. Technically SHE is right. SHE doesn't lead the current government, Greenie Bob Brown does.
G'day again, I have talked to Rob Sharman about this forum and he said he will try and find time to have a look and possibly answer some questions on the subject, other than that you can go to tasmanenergy.com.au and have a look.
There are some interesting stuff, and just another point, to produce bio for around 18 cents you would need to recover your methanol through a distillation process as this is an expensive ingredient, a two hundred litre drum costs around $250 over here.
cheers