Non genuine are often made by the same manufacturer, as genuine
-- Edited by goinsoon on Friday 20th of January 2012 09:28:51 PM
justcruisin01 said
11:56 PM Jan 20, 2012
Just about to do a full service on the front end of the old tug, steering swivell knuckle bearings & seals etc. This is just preventative maintance as there is nothing visualy wrong,just time to have a look & its easier to do at home than down the road some where.
During the years in the trade we always used after market, (non genuine) service kits with no problems. Out of curiosity I checked out the price of genuine parts from toyota. Are we sitting down ?
First off their service kit only contains half of the parts required to do the job, the other half come as seperate items, how stupid.
Toyota cost for all parts required to do the complete job , $650.00 , yes you are reading it correct.
Non genuine , including quility name bearings, $99.00
I rest my case.
JC.
jimbo said
12:04 AM Jan 21, 2012
Well Jim! We all know what a rip off society we live in , in this great country of ours (Shame about the Leaders) It's called GST The ACCC are not interested in honesty....I feel sorry for you seeing as the crooks know our hands are tired
Anvid said
12:05 AM Jan 21, 2012
now you tell me. We have recently bought a 1998 Toyota HiAce and at the time of purchasing it were advised that parts could be easily obtained in most areas (the cost of them was not mentioned). Nevertheless, we have travelled over 8,000kms since June and have had no problems. We did have a thorough service before we left.
justcruisin01 said
12:14 AM Jan 21, 2012
jimbo wrote:
Well Jim! We all know what a rip off society we live in , in this great country of ours (Shame about the Leaders) It's called GST The ACCC are not interested in honesty....I feel sorry for you seeing as the crooks know our hands are tired
Jimbo , dont feel for me, I have the after market ones in my hand.
As I stated, it was just a check to see what the difference was & Ive been around long enough not to get caught like that.
JC.
justcruisin01 said
12:19 AM Jan 21, 2012
Anvid wrote:
now you tell me. We have recently bought a 1998 Toyota HiAce and at the time of purchasing it were advised that parts could be easily obtained in most areas (the cost of them was not mentioned).
The advice here is correct , but always check your prices on every thing.
On some parts they are competitive.
JC.
Ma said
12:20 AM Jan 21, 2012
We noticed the same thing with Ford when we purchased the Ranger and checked out the "authentic" Ford Tow Bar and canopy.................not on gungadin!!!!
goinsoon said
12:32 AM Jan 21, 2012
Same, same with my Patrol Jim (probably worse)
the rocket said
01:12 AM Jan 21, 2012
Hi, good to see you doing maintenance. cheers. rocket n strop
Dougwe said
03:52 AM Jan 21, 2012
Non genuine (after market) sounds good to me JC.
signwilson said
04:11 AM Jan 21, 2012
non genuine aftermarket is often a lot better quality as well as cheaper
justcruisin01 said
04:17 AM Jan 21, 2012
signwilson wrote:
non genuine aftermarket is often a lot better quality as well as cheaper
It can go both ways, there was a issue a while back with after market commodore water pumps, the impella was falling of the shaft, but as general rule most parts are ok.
JC.
bill12 said
04:47 AM Jan 21, 2012
The same happens with the courier I bought. The oil filter from a Ford dealer was $53, and the same filter from Supercheap was $7.50!I don,t know how these crooks can sleep at night...........
aussietraveller said
08:05 AM Jan 21, 2012
My wife's Subaru liberty genuine Subaru front brake pads $127,00 Better Brakes just pads no labour $98.00 Scotts auto one $72.50 supa cheap didnt have them.
glassies said
05:40 PM Jan 21, 2012
Yep subaru are another dealer that are outrageous ,we had the letter a missing off the back of my old subaru Cant just buy the one letter have to buy the whole thing so i just said forget it
jimricho said
06:04 PM Jan 21, 2012
GST has little to do with this price rip off... The GST on a $99 purchase is $9, on the $650 it's $59.09. In many cases (probably including this one) GST replaced an even higher rate of wholesale sales tax. After nearly 12 years it's time to get used to it 'cos it aint gunna go away.
DeBe said
07:24 PM Jan 21, 2012
jimricho wrote:
GST has little to do with this price rip off... The GST on a $99 purchase is $9, on the $650 it's $59.09. In many cases (probably including this one) GST replaced an even higher rate of wholesale sales tax. After nearly 12 years it's time to get used to it 'cos it aint gunna go away.
Some people seem to have forgoten what sales tax on parts used to be, around 27% to 33% when i was in busines. 10% GST is a hell of a lot less, just spread over a larger range.
03_troopy said
06:20 PM Jan 22, 2012
DeBe wrote:
jimricho wrote:
GST has little to do with this price rip off... The GST on a $99 purchase is $9, on the $650 it's $59.09. In many cases (probably including this one) GST replaced an even higher rate of wholesale sales tax. After nearly 12 years it's time to get used to it 'cos it aint gunna go away.
Some people seem to have forgoten what sales tax on parts used to be, around 27% to 33% when i was in busines. 10% GST is a hell of a lot less, just spread over a larger range.
I agree DeBe, i used to repair TV's and install TV antennas pre and post GST, all the prices of parts (31% from memory) dropped considerably (down to 10%) even thought the GST was added to labour costs. But people actually got an antenna system installed cheaper after GST.
03_troopy said
06:28 PM Jan 22, 2012
But on the price of Toyota Geniune parts, I once had a couple of belts replaced on my 4runner while it was in getting some work done by Toyota (recall for headgasket replacement and possible head or engine replacement if they were badly corroded, when it was 10yrs old and had about 100, 000K on the clock) They charged me $80.00 for the two belts. And later when I called them and priced a pair of contacts for the starter motor, they quoted $25.00 each. I went to the local auto sparky and asked him what he charged, he crawled under the car to check which type (there are 2 types for that era) and then said $8.00 and he had plenty in stock. I agreed to purchase a set from him and handed him the $16.00. He handed me back $8.00 and said "no, $8.00 a pair"
justcruisin01 said
01:53 AM Jan 23, 2012
bill12 wrote:
The same happens with the courier I bought. The oil filter from a Ford dealer was $53, and the same filter from Supercheap was $7.50!I don,t know how these crooks can sleep at night...........
Bill ; do be carefull with filters mate, some cheapies do not have the non return valves fitted, also the amount of filter paper is often much less.
We used to cut the old ones open in the shop to check out the amount of paper used. as for the return valve you can see this in the base of the fillter. As for the cheapies with out them the oil drains back over night, on start up each time it is like when you change a filter & the new one has to fill.
Non genuine are often made by the same manufacturer, as genuine
-- Edited by goinsoon on Friday 20th of January 2012 09:28:51 PM
Just about to do a full service on the front end of the old tug, steering swivell knuckle bearings & seals etc. This is just preventative maintance as there is nothing visualy wrong,just time to have a look & its easier to do at home than down the road some where.
During the years in the trade we always used after market, (non genuine) service kits with no problems. Out of curiosity I checked out the price of genuine parts from toyota. Are we sitting down ?
First off their service kit only contains half of the parts required to do the job, the other half come as seperate items, how stupid.
Toyota cost for all parts required to do the complete job , $650.00 , yes you are reading it correct.
Non genuine , including quility name bearings, $99.00
I rest my case.
JC.
Well Jim! We all know what a rip off society we live in , in this great country of ours (Shame about the Leaders) It's called GST The ACCC are not interested in honesty....I feel sorry for you seeing as the crooks know our hands are tired
Jimbo , dont feel for me, I have the after market ones in my hand.
As I stated, it was just a check to see what the difference was & Ive been around long enough not to get caught like that.
JC.
The advice here is correct , but always check your prices on every thing.
On some parts they are competitive.
JC.
We noticed the same thing with Ford when we purchased the Ranger and checked out the "authentic" Ford Tow Bar and canopy.................not on gungadin!!!!
Same, same with my Patrol Jim (probably worse)
Hi, good to see you doing maintenance. cheers. rocket n strop
It can go both ways, there was a issue a while back with after market commodore water pumps, the impella was falling of the shaft, but as general rule most parts are ok.
JC.
Cant just buy the one letter have to buy the whole thing so i just said forget it
Some people seem to have forgoten what sales tax on parts used to be, around 27% to 33% when i was in busines. 10% GST is a hell of a lot less, just spread over a larger range.
I agree DeBe, i used to repair TV's and install TV antennas pre and post GST, all the prices of parts (31% from memory) dropped considerably (down to 10%) even thought the GST was added to labour costs. But people actually got an antenna system installed cheaper after GST.
Bill ; do be carefull with filters mate, some cheapies do not have the non return valves fitted, also the amount of filter paper is often much less.
We used to cut the old ones open in the shop to check out the amount of paper used. as for the return valve you can see this in the base of the fillter. As for the cheapies with out them the oil drains back over night, on start up each time it is like when you change a filter & the new one has to fill.