They have execrable manners, flaunt authority, and have no respect for their elders.
They no longer rise when their parents or teachers enter the room.
What kind of awful creatures will they be when they grow up?"
(Socrates, 469 399 BC)
-- Edited by jimricho on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 06:42:29 PM
Atlas said
02:02 AM Feb 15, 2012
Very good
Gerty Dancer said
02:13 AM Feb 15, 2012
Ohh, Yesss!!!
JRH said
02:15 AM Feb 15, 2012
Beth54 wrote:
A cousin posted this on Facebook, so I thought I'd share.
oops! Sorry it's bit bit small, but if I make it any bigger, it won't upload.
-- Edited by Beth54 on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 06:05:02 PM
So true Beth, it is about time people started taking responsibility and did something useful instead of waiting for someone else to do it.
JRH said
02:44 AM Feb 15, 2012
jimricho wrote:
So what's new!
"Children today love luxury too much.
They have execrable manners, flaunt authority, and have no respect for their elders.
They no longer rise when their parents or teachers enter the room.
What kind of awful creatures will they be when they grow up?"
(Socrates, 469 399 BC)
-- Edited by jimricho on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 06:42:29 PM
And so the saga continues.
jimricho said
02:53 AM Feb 15, 2012
I can recall as a teenager the same sort of stuff being said about us then. While it may apply to a minority (as it did then) the suggestion that this is universal across the whole of gen Y is a nonsense.
Thousands of students this year (as in years gone by) are working their backsides off to get as good an HSC pass as possible so they can go on to pursue a tertiary education and a successful career.
Judging a whole demographic by the actions of a small minority is specious to say the least.
Here's a challenge for the grandparents on this forum....."does it apply to your grandchildren?"
jimricho said
02:54 AM Feb 15, 2012
JRH wrote:
jimricho wrote:
So what's new!
"Children today love luxury too much.
They have execrable manners, flaunt authority, and have no respect for their elders.
They no longer rise when their parents or teachers enter the room.
What kind of awful creatures will they be when they grow up?"
(Socrates, 469 399 BC)
-- Edited by jimricho on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 06:42:29 PM
And so the saga continues.
It was intended to be a "tongue in cheek" post
JRH said
02:55 AM Feb 15, 2012
jimricho wrote:
I can recall as a teenager the same sort of stuff being said about us then. While it may apply to a minority (as it did then) the suggestion that this is universal across the whole of gen Y is a nonsense.
Thousands of students this year (as in years gone by) are working their backsides off to get as good an HSC pass as possible so they can go on to pursue a tertiary education and a successful career.
Judging a whole demographic by the actions of a small minority is specious to say the least.
Here's a challenge for the grandparents on this forum....."does it apply to your grandchildren?"
Yes a lot of kids are working their backsides off but by the same token a hell of a lot are not.
Beth54 said
02:58 AM Feb 15, 2012
Yes, I guess your right there Jim. We shouldn't tar them all with the same brush.
As for my lot, my 13year old grandson is lovely, but a niece, nephew and Claytons nephew definitely fit this description.
In my opinion, the blame can be put squarely on the heads of the parents of these 3 Gen Y's.
Gerty Dancer said
02:59 AM Feb 15, 2012
Actually, now that I think about it... this applies to lots of people of all ages, not only teenagers. Not anybody here of course!!
Beth54 said
03:01 AM Feb 15, 2012
jimricho wrote:
It was intended to be a "tongue in cheek" post
If that's the case you should have added a wink. Wink wink nudge nudge...
dazren said
03:58 AM Feb 15, 2012
Yep ! i agree, there are heaps of decent young ones out there, However I think the percentage of the bludging ones is of a much greater number than in '' our days '' Because of the amount of welfare availiable they have enough to ''exist '' and so have no desire to better themselves As for taring them all with the same brush, I do not think it was aimed at youth in general, as it states that the statement was made by a Judge whe regulary deals with today's young people, so it would be directed at the ''type '' of young ones that come before him, many times over in some cases, and he was probaly getting sick of them and thier excuses of poor me, i never had a chance in life, or i had a bad upbringing, I admire his statement, is is telling it like it is. And really it pertains to all of society, no matter what Age, Race, or Religion, Rgs dazren
dropbear68 said
03:58 AM Feb 15, 2012
Hey theres a hell of a lot of adults out there that can fall into this category too, I have three teenage boys well 1 actually over 20s arent teens, none of this lot has a brain cell between them, the day we can load the bus and hit the frogger will be my happiest I can say bye bye to the terrorism Ive had 20 odd years of with kids, I can remember as a kid and my dad was a copper and a soldier so we kids had fairly disciplined lives we had respect for mum as a woman and dad was the rooster and if u ruffled his feathers we copped it hard, I think this is whats missing these days with some kids and thats discipline they dont get it at home or at school that old rangoon cane used to frighten the christ out of me but it did me no harm, basically the place is falling in standards now, weve become very americanised and thats bad, not all kids are ratbags though theres plenty of good ones just so many falling through the cracks and being left there
BobnBev said
05:02 AM Feb 15, 2012
Most of them have one small bit missing , a brain , and with out that it just wont happen. We have a couple of grand kids all good and well manered. Thats how I was brought up, I would never have answered my Mum back.... if I wanted any tea( dinner) Now its a joke, all the do gooders should have to look after the end result. but that wont happen either.. Ever sat in the super market and just watched... Makes you wonder , with metal faces, studs, and clothes that realy need a belt to hold them up.. They will never get a job in their life.... Some how we lived in the best time... Thanks for starting this have wanted to say that for a while..... That feels good, but it wont change a thing... Bob n Bev
milo said
05:54 AM Feb 15, 2012
while it may be just a joke of a thread, i have always learnt not to judge a book by its cover, and who knows what some of these kids may turn out to be in years to come they might just suprise you...
JRH said
06:41 AM Feb 15, 2012
milo wrote:
while it may be just a joke of a thread, i have always learnt not to judge a book by its cover, and who knows what some of these kids may turn out to be in years to come they might just suprise you...
I certainly hope they do Milo.
petengail said
06:05 PM Feb 15, 2012
My opinion for what its worth is that the younger generation is doing just fine. Its the younger generation who pay the taxes that keep a lot of us travelling and enjoying our retirement.
Beth54 said
06:34 PM Feb 15, 2012
I must admit, the Y Gen tag in the subject box was my own.
As a few have noted, the judge never mentioned the Y Gen.
But as I read it, it seemed like a perfect description of the few young one's I've mentioned below.
Loffty said
07:38 PM Feb 15, 2012
-- Edited by Loffty on Wednesday 15th of February 2012 07:40:44 PM
bill12 said
09:46 PM Feb 15, 2012
Wasn,t Socrates the one who was forced to drink Hemlock by his kids?.........
dropbear68 said
01:23 AM Feb 16, 2012
When god was handing out the brains i think my kids were holding the door open for the others, we simply cannot motivate this rabble to get a decent job, stop the binge drinking and try and make something of themselves, no way not happning, I blame xbox, playstation, doof doof music, just how you would class it as music im not sure its mor elike noise pollution, the street lingo they use I feel as if im in the hoods of LA with the gangers!, ok times change as the world progresses but for gods sake give me back the 70s and Elvis, they say there the future leaders? this concerns me no end lol.
Happywanderer said
01:38 AM Feb 16, 2012
The whole problem with this issue is the wrong ones would take notice of it. The ones who need to read it are out there causing havoc, chaos and have no respect for anything or anyones property so why would they take any notice of something so profound. Yes they were around when we were kids but it wasn't me, At the age of 7 I was milking cows, we lived many ks out of town and had no way of getting there unless our parents took us or we went to school on the bus. For entertainment I went out and harrowed the paddocks or cleaned out the pig pens. Imagine if you told someone to get out there and do that now. You would be told where to go.
Oh! and grubbed thistles, boy do I remember the blisters on my hands.
You wouldn't dare say, What can I do, its boring. Dad would just hand us the grubber and say get out the back of the farm.
Happywanderer said
01:40 AM Feb 16, 2012
dropbear68 wrote:
When god was handing out the brains i think my kids were holding the door open for the others, we simply cannot motivate this rabble to get a decent job, stop the binge drinking and try and make something of themselves, no way not happning, I blame xbox, playstation, doof doof music, just how you would class it as music im not sure its mor elike noise pollution, the street lingo they use I feel as if im in the hoods of LA with the gangers!, ok times change as the world progresses but for gods sake give me back the 70s and Elvis, they say there the future leaders? this concerns me no end lol.
My god, I am so glad my kids had left home before all that electronic stuff came out. I would be pulling my hair out.
Beth54 said
01:42 AM Feb 16, 2012
bill12 wrote:
Wasn,t Socrates the one who was forced to drink Hemlock by his kids?.........
Gee, I don't know Bill, that's a bit above my trivia knowledge.
Beth54 said
02:04 AM Feb 16, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
dropbear68 wrote:
When god was handing out the brains i think my kids were holding the door open for the others, we simply cannot motivate this rabble to get a decent job, stop the binge drinking and try and make something of themselves, no way not happning, I blame xbox, playstation, doof doof music, just how you would class it as music im not sure its mor elike noise pollution, the street lingo they use I feel as if im in the hoods of LA with the gangers!, ok times change as the world progresses but for gods sake give me back the 70s and Elvis, they say there the future leaders? this concerns me no end lol.
My god, I am so glad my kids had left home before all that electronic stuff came out. I would be pulling my hair out.
Ditto! But I have witnessed my daughter trying to stop my grandson(14) from too much Xbox.
It's his Dad's (her ex) major pasttime, so it's been pretty tricky.
He has also let him play games which are unsuitable, do what he likes, stay up late, eat too much junk food etc.
So it's been a struggle since they seperated 10 years ago.
Daughter and hubby are fairly strict with him, and he knows there's different rules at each of their houses.
All things considered, it amazes me that he's such a lovely boy!
Nicholstones said
05:11 AM Feb 16, 2012
dropbear68 wrote:
When god was handing out the brains i think my kids were holding the door open for the others, we simply cannot motivate this rabble to get a decent job, stop the binge drinking and try and make something of themselves, no way not happning, I blame xbox, playstation, doof doof music, just how you would class it as music im not sure its mor elike noise pollution, the street lingo they use I feel as if im in the hoods of LA with the gangers!, ok times change as the world progresses but for gods sake give me back the 70s and Elvis, they say there the future leaders? this concerns me no end lol.
How hilarious! This could have been written any time in the last 60 years.
Connie said
11:12 AM Feb 16, 2012
We have a bunch of very well behaved grand children, mainly because their parents were not afraid of spanking when they were younger, braving the wrath of DOCS. (They never did get a visit from the PC police). They go to a country school where discipline is strong and the community ethic is pushed continually. We also have another family of grandchildren whose behaviour leaves a lot to be desired as their parents continually indulge their every want and never seem to discipline them at all.
<RANT ON>The government need to get out of parents' homes, stop telling them what they can and cannot do when raising their kids. Some teachers spend a lot of time teaching their pupils "their rights" and encouraging them to dob in their parents. We end up with a young population very aware of their legislated rights and not a clue about their responsibilities. <RANT OFF>
-- Edited by Connie on Thursday 16th of February 2012 11:12:48 AM
Ma said
03:01 PM Feb 16, 2012
Here's hoping.
If you read the first post put up by Beth then it sure wasn't meant as a joke.
-- Edited by Ma on Thursday 16th of February 2012 03:05:11 PM
JRH said
07:14 PM Feb 16, 2012
Connie wrote:
We have a bunch of very well behaved grand children, mainly because their parents were not afraid of spanking when they were younger, braving the wrath of DOCS. (They never did get a visit from the PC police). They go to a country school where discipline is strong and the community ethic is pushed continually. We also have another family of grandchildren whose behaviour leaves a lot to be desired as their parents continually indulge their every want and never seem to discipline them at all.
<RANT ON>The government need to get out of parents' homes, stop telling them what they can and cannot do when raising their kids. Some teachers spend a lot of time teaching their pupils "their rights" and encouraging them to dob in their parents. We end up with a young population very aware of their legislated rights and not a clue about their responsibilities. <RANT OFF>
-- Edited by Connie on Thursday 16th of February 2012 11:12:48 AM
A cousin posted this on Facebook, so I thought I'd share.
oops! Sorry it's bit bit small, but if I make it any bigger, it won't upload.
-- Edited by Beth54 on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 06:05:02 PM
So what's new!
"Children today love luxury too much.
They have execrable manners, flaunt authority, and have no respect for their elders.
They no longer rise when their parents or teachers enter the room.
What kind of awful creatures will they be when they grow up?"
(Socrates, 469 399 BC)
-- Edited by jimricho on Tuesday 14th of February 2012 06:42:29 PM
Ohh, Yesss!!!
So true Beth, it is about time people started taking responsibility and did something useful instead of waiting for someone else to do it.
And so the saga continues.
Thousands of students this year (as in years gone by) are working their backsides off to get as good an HSC pass as possible so they can go on to pursue a tertiary education and a successful career.
Judging a whole demographic by the actions of a small minority is specious to say the least.
Here's a challenge for the grandparents on this forum....."does it apply to your grandchildren?"
It was intended to be a "tongue in cheek" post
Yes a lot of kids are working their backsides off but by the same token a hell of a lot are not.
Yes, I guess your right there Jim. We shouldn't tar them all with the same brush.
As for my lot, my 13year old grandson is lovely, but a niece, nephew and Claytons nephew definitely fit this description.
In my opinion, the blame can be put squarely on the heads of the parents of these 3 Gen Y's.
Actually, now that I think about it... this applies to lots of people of all ages, not only teenagers. Not anybody here of course!!
If that's the case you should have added a wink.
Wink wink nudge nudge...
As for taring them all with the same brush, I do not think it was aimed at youth in general, as it states that the statement was made by a Judge whe regulary deals with today's young people, so it would be directed at the ''type '' of young ones that come before him, many times over in some cases, and he was probaly getting sick of them and thier excuses of poor me, i never had a chance in life, or i had a bad upbringing, I admire his statement, is is telling it like it is. And really it pertains to all of society, no matter what Age, Race, or Religion, Rgs dazren
Thats how I was brought up, I would never have answered my Mum back.... if I wanted any tea( dinner)
Now its a joke, all the do gooders should have to look after the end result. but that wont happen either..
Ever sat in the super market and just watched... Makes you wonder , with metal faces, studs, and clothes that realy need a belt to hold them up.. They will never get a job in their life....
Some how we lived in the best time...
Thanks for starting this have wanted to say that for a while.....
That feels good, but it wont change a thing...
Bob n Bev
by its cover, and who knows what some of these kids may turn out to be in years to come
they might just suprise you...
I certainly hope they do Milo.
I must admit, the Y Gen tag in the subject box was my own.
As a few have noted, the judge never mentioned the Y Gen.
But as I read it, it seemed like a perfect description of the few young one's I've mentioned below.
-- Edited by Loffty on Wednesday 15th of February 2012 07:40:44 PM
The ones who need to read it are out there causing havoc, chaos and have no respect for anything or anyones property so why would they take any notice of something so profound.
Yes they were around when we were kids but it wasn't me, At the age of 7 I was milking cows, we lived many ks out of town and had no way of getting there unless our parents took us or we went to school on the bus. For entertainment I went out and harrowed the paddocks or cleaned out the pig pens.
Imagine if you told someone to get out there and do that now. You would be told where to go.
Oh! and grubbed thistles, boy do I remember the blisters on my hands.
You wouldn't dare say, What can I do, its boring. Dad would just hand us the grubber and say get out the back of the farm.
My god, I am so glad my kids had left home before all that electronic stuff came out. I would be pulling my hair out.
Gee, I don't know Bill, that's a bit above my trivia knowledge.
Ditto! But I have witnessed my daughter trying to stop my grandson(14) from too much Xbox.
It's his Dad's (her ex) major pasttime, so it's been pretty tricky.
He has also let him play games which are unsuitable, do what he likes, stay up late, eat too much junk food etc.
So it's been a struggle since they seperated 10 years ago.
Daughter and hubby are fairly strict with him, and he knows there's different rules at each of their houses.
All things considered, it amazes me that he's such a lovely boy!
How hilarious! This could have been written any time in the last 60 years.
We have a bunch of very well behaved grand children, mainly because their parents were not afraid of spanking when they were younger, braving the wrath of DOCS. (They never did get a visit from the PC police). They go to a country school where discipline is strong and the community ethic is pushed continually. We also have another family of grandchildren whose behaviour leaves a lot to be desired as their parents continually indulge their every want and never seem to discipline them at all.
<RANT ON>The government need to get out of parents' homes, stop telling them what they can and cannot do when raising their kids. Some teachers spend a lot of time teaching their pupils "their rights" and encouraging them to dob in their parents. We end up with a young population very aware of their legislated rights and not a clue about their responsibilities. <RANT OFF>
-- Edited by Connie on Thursday 16th of February 2012 11:12:48 AM
Here's hoping.
If you read the first post put up by Beth then it sure wasn't meant as a joke.
-- Edited by Ma on Thursday 16th of February 2012 03:05:11 PM
So very true.