I get very annoyed with the free use of this word. A great footballer is a "hero"... a great sailor is a "hero" ... a great cricketer is a "hero'..... They Are Not!!!!!!!! They are champions. A true Hero is one who puts all self preservation to one side, in order to help those in greater need. Our latest Aussie Cpl, who received the VC, is a true Hero.
Cheers Dellie
Blue Orchid said
06:56 AM Mar 3, 2012
Here here.
Well put Dell
Cruising Granny said
07:08 AM Mar 3, 2012
We've developed a bad habit of misusing words in the English language. You are so right Dellie. Your defininition of "hero" is spot on. Unless sporting stars risk their lives to save a game they are not heroes. Just stars or champions. The media has a lot to answer for in their misuse and abuse of the language our teachers took great pains to teach us to the letter (pardon the pun). All those taps on the knuckles for incorrect spelling and poor hand writing. Ouch!!!
Travel Bug said
07:15 AM Mar 3, 2012
DellieMay, I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Cruising Granny wrote: The media has a lot to answer for in their misuse and abuse of the language _____________________________________________________________ CG, in my opinion, the media has a lot to answer for full stop!!!
Boroma577 said
08:07 AM Mar 3, 2012
Travel Bug wrote:
DellieMay, I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Cruising Granny wrote: The media has a lot to answer for in their misuse and abuse of the language _____________________________________________________________ CG, in my opinion, the media has a lot to answer for full stop!!!
Hear hear....my sentiments too plus the fact that sporting stars are held up as idols too....gets right up my nose.
jimricho said
09:46 AM Mar 3, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
Is there room on this soapbox for me!!
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greekeikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
The term "icon" in this context is used in a metaphorical sense. Metaphors are a common and legitimate part of the language.
(guess who made a spelling mistake and had to go back and edit it.)
-- Edited by jimricho on Saturday 3rd of March 2012 09:48:39 AM
Rip and Rosie said
02:20 PM Mar 3, 2012
I remember when the announcers on the ABC had to have a "proper" accent, and there was some process for the "approval" of new words/phrases before they could be used on screen. Perhaps a bit harsh, but now gone.
My pet hates are the misuse of 1. "a" instead of "an" in a word commencing with "H"...e.g. a horrific smash, instead of an horrific smash, 2 "two times" instead of twice 3. "(x) and I" as an object in a sentence instead of "(x) and me" ....... e.g. "It didn't mean much to Sarah and I", instead of "It didn't mean much to Sarah and me." Grates my teeth!!!
and I hate the constant use of acronyms which never get explained............... took me ages to work out all the fuss over NBN, which to me was the local TV channel, and then one of the kids told me it was the National Broadband Network.
Also had to have t 7 yr old ask me what I meant by Kentucky Fried Chicken, everyone knows fried food is bad for you. KFC however doesn't seem a problem.
Rosie.
jimricho said
02:42 PM Mar 3, 2012
DellieMay wrote:
I get very annoyed with the free use of this word. A great footballer is a "hero"... a great sailor is a "hero" ... a great cricketer is a "hero'..... They Are Not!!!!!!!! They are champions. A true Hero is one who puts all self preservation to one side, in order to help those in greater need. Our latest Aussie Cpl, who received the VC, is a true Hero.
Cheers Dellie
Hear! hear! from me too
Jim
jimricho said
02:46 PM Mar 3, 2012
Rip and Rosie wrote:
I remember when the announcers on the ABC had to have a "proper" accent, and there was some process for the "approval" of new words/phrases before they could be used on screen. Perhaps a bit harsh, but now gone.
My pet hates are the misuse of 1. "a" instead of "an" in a word commencing with "H"...e.g. a horrific smash, instead of an horrific smash, 2 "two times" instead of twice 3. "(x) and I" as an object in a sentence instead of "(x) and me" ....... e.g. "It didn't mean much to Sarah and I", instead of "It didn't mean much to Sarah and me." Grates my teeth!!!
and I hate the constant use of acronyms which never get explained............... took me ages to work out all the fuss over NBN, which to me was the local TV channel, and then one of the kids told me it was the National Broadband Network.
Also had to have t 7 yr old ask me what I meant by Kentucky Fried Chicken, everyone knows fried food is bad for you. KFC however doesn't seem a problem.
Rosie.
IMHO I abhor the use of acronyns too. LOL!
Also using prepositions to end sentences with.
And using a conjunction to start a sentence.
Jim
Dougwe said
04:43 PM Mar 3, 2012
Mmmmmm, I am not sure of any of those JR Shows my lack of interest during English lessons when at school I suppose.
I have got by during the years and more than likely I have made many spelling and grammar mistakes along the way.
Thank goodness for spell checkers but even those don't pick everything up.
rockylizard said
04:47 PM Mar 3, 2012
Gday...
Dictionary definition -
hero[hr]
npl-roes
1. a man distinguished by exceptional courage, nobility, fortitude, etc.
2. a man who is idealized for possessing superior qualities in any field
3. (Myth & Legend / Classical Myth & Legend) Classical myth a being of extraordinary strength and courage, often the offspring of a mortal and a god, who is celebrated for his exploits
4.the principal male character in a novel, play, etc.
[from Latin hrs, from Greek]
Cheers
John
_wombat_ said
05:00 PM Mar 3, 2012
am I a Hero?
I agree with you DM, that guy is a hero of the 1st degree.
goinsoon said
05:21 PM Mar 3, 2012
Is there room on this soapbox for me!!
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greekeikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
jimricho said
05:41 PM Mar 3, 2012
Dougwe wrote:
Thank goodness for spell checkers but even those don't pick everything up.
Spiel cheques do knot make miss steaks!
_wombat_ said
05:42 PM Mar 3, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
Is there room on this soapbox for me!!
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greekeikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
hey GS, where av u been, long time no se
Dunco said
05:54 PM Mar 3, 2012
Here is a real hero !!!!
RIP Senior Constable Dave Rixon. You have done YOUR duty mate
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greekeikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
The term "icon" in this context is used in a metaphorical sense. Metaphors are a common and legitimate part of the language.
(guess who made a spelling mistake and had to go back and edit it.)
-- Edited by jimricho on Saturday 3rd of March 2012 09:48:39 AM
you, do I get the prize
_wombat_ said
06:37 PM Mar 3, 2012
Dunco wrote:
Here is a real hero !!!!
RIP Senior Constable Dave Rixon. You have done YOUR duty mate
Every day they go to work could be their last, as you say he did his duty, R.I.P. Constable Dave Rixon
valnrob said
07:11 PM Mar 3, 2012
Well what an English lesson !! Hope all that doesn't deter anyone from posting comments on this forum. Some people are good at English and it's written use and others like most of us make a few mistakes along the way.
Keep on posting anyway
Cheers
goinsoon said
07:37 PM Mar 3, 2012
_wombat_ wrote:
goinsoon wrote:
Is there room on this soapbox for me!!
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greekeikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
hey GS, where av u been, long time no se
Have to rely on iffy free caravan park wifi where I am, my Vodafail wont work here
jimbo said
07:38 PM Mar 3, 2012
I think the "We! should be cut out......It was the Media that started it none of my family or friends have ever said Hero about anybody except Fire Personnel SES workers Nurse and Doctors who save lives and Many more.....Certainly not the ones mentioned here.....Hope I did'nt screw what I'd meant to say
JRH said
07:42 PM Mar 3, 2012
jimbo wrote:
I think the "We! should be cut out......It was the Media that started it none of my family or friends have ever said Hero about anybody except Fire Personnel SES workers Nurse and Doctors who save lives and Many more.....Certainly not the ones mentioned here.....Hope I did'nt screw what I'd meant to say
It came across loud and clear mate and so true.
_wombat_ said
08:00 PM Mar 3, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
_wombat_ wrote:
goinsoon wrote:
Is there room on this soapbox for me!!
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greekeikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
hey GS, where av u been, long time no se
Have to rely on iffy free caravan park wifi where I am, my Vodafail wont work here
GS have you tried the local libruary, they usually have FREE IT connections
Boroma577 said
08:07 PM Mar 3, 2012
jimricho wrote:
Also using prepositions to end sentences with.
And using a conjunction to start a sentence.
Jim
Ha, ha Jim....good examples??
JRH said
08:13 PM Mar 3, 2012
As long as the message is understood does anyone really care about spelling and composition??
Boroma577 said
08:18 PM Mar 3, 2012
The ones that really irritate are:
You're and Your do not mean the same thing.
To, Too and Two have three (3) totally different meanings.
They're, Their and There also have 3 distinctly different meanings.
JRH said
08:24 PM Mar 3, 2012
Boroma577 wrote:
The ones that really irritate are:
You're and Your do not mean the same thing.
To, Too and Two have three (3) totally different meanings.
They're, Their and There also have 3 distinctly different meanings.
Yes I agree but unfortunately it has become a matter of picking up on what the author is trying to say so one does not get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
We really don't want to deter people from posting because what they write does not conform to good grammar.
goinsoon said
08:37 PM Mar 3, 2012
JRH wrote:
Boroma577 wrote:
The ones that really irritate are:
You're and Your do not mean the same thing.
To, Too and Two have three (3) totally different meanings.
They're, Their and There also have 3 distinctly different meanings.
Yes I agree but unfortunately it has become a matter of picking up on what the author is trying to say so one does not get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
We really don't want to deter people from posting because what they write does not conform to good grammar.
OH GOD!!!
Spare me from the bloody word policemen, this is a forum not a classroom
JRH said
08:40 PM Mar 3, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
JRH wrote:
Boroma577 wrote:
The ones that really irritate are:
You're and Your do not mean the same thing.
To, Too and Two have three (3) totally different meanings.
They're, Their and There also have 3 distinctly different meanings.
Yes I agree but unfortunately it has become a matter of picking up on what the author is trying to say so one does not get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
We really don't want to deter people from posting because what they write does not conform to good grammar.
OH GOD!!!
Spare me from the bloody word policemen, this is a forum not a classroom
Exactly Mate.
Boroma577 said
08:45 PM Mar 3, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
OH GOD!!!
Spare me from the bloody word policemen, this is a forum not a classroom
Brian, I don't recall saying anything about anyone on this forum having conform to my way of thinking.
I expressed an opinion.......nothing more and something I recall you doing many times as well.
Cheers Dellie
Well put Dell
You are so right Dellie. Your defininition of "hero" is spot on.
Unless sporting stars risk their lives to save a game they are not heroes. Just stars or champions.
The media has a lot to answer for in their misuse and abuse of the language our teachers took great pains to teach us to the letter (pardon the pun).
All those taps on the knuckles for incorrect spelling and poor hand writing. Ouch!!!
DellieMay, I wholeheartedly agree!!!
Cruising Granny wrote:
The media has a lot to answer for in their misuse and abuse of the language
_____________________________________________________________
CG, in my opinion, the media has a lot to answer for full stop!!!
Hear hear....my sentiments too plus the fact that sporting stars are held up as idols too....gets right up my nose.
The term "icon" in this context is used in a metaphorical sense. Metaphors are a common and legitimate part of the language.
(guess who made a spelling mistake and had to go back and edit it.
)
-- Edited by jimricho on Saturday 3rd of March 2012 09:48:39 AM
My pet hates are the misuse of
1. "a" instead of "an" in a word commencing with "H"...e.g. a horrific smash, instead of an horrific smash,
2 "two times" instead of twice
3. "(x) and I" as an object in a sentence instead of "(x) and me" ....... e.g. "It didn't mean much to Sarah and I", instead of "It didn't mean much to Sarah and me." Grates my teeth!!!
and I hate the constant use of acronyms which never get explained............... took me ages to work out all the fuss over NBN, which to me was the local TV channel, and then one of the kids told me it was the National Broadband Network.
Also had to have t 7 yr old ask me what I meant by Kentucky Fried Chicken, everyone knows fried food is bad for you. KFC however doesn't seem a problem.
Rosie.
Hear! hear! from me too
Jim
IMHO I abhor the use of acronyns too. LOL!
Also using prepositions to end sentences with.
And using a conjunction to start a sentence.
Jim
Mmmmmm, I am not sure of any of those JR
Shows my lack of interest during English lessons when at school I suppose.
I have got by during the years and more than likely I have made many spelling and grammar mistakes along the way.
Thank goodness for spell checkers but even those don't pick everything up.
Gday...
Dictionary definition -
hero [hr]
am I a Hero?
I agree with you DM, that guy is a hero of the 1st degree.
Is there room on this soapbox for me!!
What about the word "Icon" that really pi sses me off
such and such a footballer, cricketer, actor ect is an Icon, what crap
An icon (from Greek eikn "image") is a religious work of art, most commonly a painting, from Eastern Christianity and in certain Eastern Catholic churches. More broadly the term is used in a wide number of contexts for an image, picture, or representation; it is a sign or likeness that stands for an object by signifying or representing it.
Spiel cheques do knot make miss steaks!
hey GS, where av u been, long time no se
Here is a real hero !!!!
RIP Senior Constable Dave Rixon. You have done YOUR duty mate
you, do I get the prize
Every day they go to work could be their last, as you say he did his duty, R.I.P. Constable Dave Rixon
Keep on posting anyway
Cheers
Have to rely on iffy free caravan park wifi where I am, my Vodafail wont work here
I think the "We! should be cut out......It was the Media that started it none of my family or friends have ever said Hero about anybody except Fire Personnel SES workers Nurse and Doctors who save lives and Many more.....Certainly not the ones mentioned here.....Hope I did'nt screw what I'd meant to say
It came across loud and clear mate and so true.
GS have you tried the local libruary, they usually have FREE IT connections
Ha, ha Jim....good examples??
As long as the message is understood does anyone really care about spelling and composition??
The ones that really irritate are:
You're and Your do not mean the same thing.
To, Too and Two have three (3) totally different meanings.
They're, Their and There also have 3 distinctly different meanings.
Yes I agree but unfortunately it has become a matter of picking up on what the author is trying to say so one does not get hold of the wrong end of the stick.
We really don't want to deter people from posting because what they write does not conform to good grammar.
OH GOD!!!
Spare me from the bloody word policemen, this is a forum not a classroom
Exactly Mate.
Brian, I don't recall saying anything about anyone on this forum having conform to my way of thinking.
I expressed an opinion.......nothing more and something I recall you doing many times as well.