Has anyone used the 24v system LED lights. Are they straight into the existing wiring? Any good for reading or general interio lights etc? I'm running 24v system in a MH and the existing 24v fittings are getting hard to find replacement covers etc. Don't want to buy a bulk lot if they're insufficient. Can't put fluro in one or two spots due to situational fitting. Any experiences welcome.
nomadic1 said
05:37 AM May 31, 2012
I've got all 24v LED lights and they work fine. No re-wiring or anything was required to fit them - they just slotted right in. They give as much light as the old ones.
Keith19837 said
05:41 AM May 31, 2012
Thanks, Nomadic. What approx dimension and did you use square or round fittings?
Roving-Dutchy said
09:06 AM May 31, 2012
Hi Cupie
I have used the flexible LED's in my van but would have thought that it would be better to use LED's that are designed to replace the incandesent bulbs, the flexible LED's are fairly difficult to solder leads onto and then you have to connect those leads into the existing wiring, these flexible Led's in some cases come unstuck from whatever you attach them to.
There are replacement LED globes in every configuration and you just have to remove the old globes and replace with the new ones.
I query why go to the trouble of replacing the running lights as I cannot perceive any advantage in doing so as the present globes rarely fail, most failures in running lights appear to be caused by dirt etc
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Thursday 31st of May 2012 09:47:25 AM
jimricho said
02:27 PM May 31, 2012
LED lights are very efficient and thus very economical in the draw-down from the battery system. Just check that the ones you buy are suitable for a 24 volt system on a case by case basis.
Cupie said
03:37 PM May 31, 2012
I am about to replace all the incandescent bulbs in my stop, turn, tail & riding lights in the van with sections of those strip LEDs that are now on the market. You buy a roll of he stuff & cut it to fit.
Seems like a cheaper & cosmetically better than changing the old fittings.
Cupie said
06:48 PM May 31, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
I have in my campervan internal lights, some of which run on 240 if plugged into power and others that run on the battery somehow. Can I change them all to LED easily??
I would only be concerned about converting the 12v ones to LED ... Just as I have done.
My Jayco (like all Jaycos I think) have only 12v lights.
For some 12v lights there are LED plug in globes I think. Go to your local caravan parts supplier with your well loaded plastic to see what they've got.
The LED plug ins that I tried in the past were for car stop etc lights and they plugged into the standard car fittings.
I think that I have seen some LEDs that replace the cylinder shaped bulbs that are used in the running lights. Are they called festoon lamps?
-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 31st of May 2012 06:52:34 PM
Cupie said
07:46 PM May 31, 2012
Roving-Dutchy wrote:
Hi Cupie
I have used the flexible LED's in my van but would have thought that it would be better to use LED's that are designed to replace the incandesent bulbs, the flexible LED's are fairly difficult to solder leads onto and then you have to connect those leads into the existing wiring, these flexible Led's in some cases come unstuck from whatever you attach them to.
There are replacement LED globes in every configuration and you just have to remove the old globes and replace with the new ones.
I query why go to the trouble of replacing the running lights as I cannot perceive any advantage in doing so as the present globes rarely fail, most failures in running lights appear to be caused by dirt etc
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Thursday 31st of May 2012 09:47:25 AM
David .. Thanks for your advice .. much appreciated.
I tried the LED bulbs some time ago but found them unsatisfactory in my case. The ones I tried were designed to work at 90 degrees to the prisim. My sockets put them parallel to the prism so the output was lousy.
A mate who like me has an electronics background, him far more than me, has just finished installing the flexible strip stuff inside his van. I will have to wait for his return from touring WA in a few months, to see how he did it & how it went.
I installed Lumino switchable strips in parallel to my interior & annex lights. They are fantastic and draw less than 100 m/a each.
WRT the running lights, despite my best efforts they are still not waterproof & they suffer from high resistance contacts, requiring frequent mtce. I thought that I would use left over LED strip to replace them.
There are replacement LED globes in every configuration and you just have to remove the old globes and replace with the new ones.
Cheers
David
G'Day David, I want to make sure that I understand you. Are you saying that there are LED globes that fit into the bayonet fitting of existing light fittings, or am I misunderstanding you? Thanks................. Keith
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Thursday 31st of May 2012 09:47:25 AM
Happywanderer said
11:26 PM May 31, 2012
I have in my campervan internal lights, some of which run on 240 if plugged into power and others that run on the battery somehow. Can I change them all to LED easily??
Keith19837 said
11:57 PM May 31, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
I have in my campervan internal lights, some of which run on 240 if plugged into power and others that run on the battery somehow. Can I change them all to LED easily??
Now that's a good question, didn't think of that. I'ld be grateful for any experience re same please.
Happywanderer said
01:51 AM Jun 1, 2012
Cupie, when you say globes mine are all tube lighting. Does that make a difference on whether it can be changed.
And yes I know that technically they aren't globes....
Cupie said
01:59 AM Jun 1, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
Cupie, when you say globes mine are all tube lighting. Does that make a difference on whether it can be changed.
If you mean fluro tubes then you can still do what I have done .. see my pics. Mine have switches at the actual light fittings that allow me to select either or both. You just wire them in parallel.
Not sure that I would bother to change fluros though. The power saving might not be worth the cost/trouble.
By the way .. SWMBO prefers the colour of the old incandescent lights .. She just walked into the study & reminded me of this. With my arrangement I can humour her and use them if I have to or want to.
neilnruth said
02:06 AM Jun 1, 2012
Welcome Roving-Dutchy - haven't seen you on the forum before. Enjoy it.
Happywanderer said
02:07 AM Jun 1, 2012
Yes thats right, mine are flouro tubes. So you think its not much point changing them?
And yes I know that technically they aren't globes....
Thanks for that ...
I see that there are some like BAY15D1236LR that are designed to overcome my tail/stop light problems.
Ain't technology & the free enterprise system great?
jetj said
04:42 AM Jun 1, 2012
I've changed the festoon globes in the interior lights of my Hiace to led ones that have a festoon connection that fits into where the bulb was and you just stick or position the light within the light fitting and power off main car battery. Brilliant lights.
I also have strips that I have cut and connected a plug that will connect to a 12v cigarette lighter plug to use on my house battery. Another 12v square light that I've also connected to a plug to also connect to a cig lighter plug to plug into whichever battery I wish. By using plugs I can use the same lead to connect whichever light I wish to use. I was sick of using the computer with a torch when not on 240v.
These are available on Ebay or other sites cheaply from China.
Evie n Rhys said
05:58 AM Jun 1, 2012
I have just changed all the globes in my van to led and it is FANTASTIC !!!!! Lit up like a Xmas tree. The light is really good and uses a third the power. My lights are both 12v and 240 though not sure what difference that makes. I bought them online from china at a cost of $50 delivered to do the van with a few to spare. The only light I didn't change was the range hood globe because the orientation was different to the others which are (downlight style). It might work but I haven't tried it yet. They are the two pin style. I looked at them at the Caravan superstore and they were considerably dearer from there. There are different diameters in these globes too. I would like to say I measured it all up and double checked before I ordered but I DIDN'T THINK OF IT....... They just fitted, thank you god. I could successfully run a disco in my van now with all this lighting. I already had led reading lights over the beds and I knew they worked really well for reading in bed. Good luck. Tess
Roving-Dutchy said
08:32 PM Jun 1, 2012
Keith19837 wrote:
Roving-Dutchy wrote:
G'Day David, I want to make sure that I understand you. Are you saying that there are LED globes that fit into the bayonet fitting of existing light fittings, or am I misunderstanding you? Thanks................. Keith
--Hi Keith
Yes there are many types of direct replacements for incandesent globes with LED's.
Ebay is a good place to search, as there are many sellers there for LED's, www.banggood.com and www.dealextreme.com are sites to have a look at and most LED's from China seem to be about $2.50 and 5 metres of flexible LED's from banggood for about $15 once you source the same items in Australia you can pay 10 times the price and they are all coming from China.Items I have purchased from banggood seem to be good quality
Cheers
David
Keith19837 said
05:15 AM Jun 3, 2012
Thanks David, I'll take a look. For some reason I didn't think they were interchangable, just not kept up with technology I guess. Appreciate the heads up.
Has anyone used the 24v system LED lights. Are they straight into the existing wiring? Any good for reading or general interio lights etc? I'm running 24v system in a MH and the existing 24v fittings are getting hard to find replacement covers etc. Don't want to buy a bulk lot if they're insufficient. Can't put fluro in one or two spots due to situational fitting. Any experiences welcome.
Thanks, Nomadic. What approx dimension and did you use square or round fittings?
Hi Cupie
I have used the flexible LED's in my van but would have thought that it would be better to use LED's that are designed to replace the incandesent bulbs, the flexible LED's are fairly difficult to solder leads onto and then you have to connect those leads into the existing wiring, these flexible Led's in some cases come unstuck from whatever you attach them to.
There are replacement LED globes in every configuration and you just have to remove the old globes and replace with the new ones.
I query why go to the trouble of replacing the running lights as I cannot perceive any advantage in doing so as the present globes rarely fail, most failures in running lights appear to be caused by dirt etc
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Thursday 31st of May 2012 09:47:25 AM
I am about to replace all the incandescent bulbs in my stop, turn, tail & riding lights in the van with sections of those strip LEDs that are now on the market. You buy a roll of he stuff & cut it to fit.
Seems like a cheaper & cosmetically better than changing the old fittings.
I would only be concerned about converting the 12v ones to LED ... Just as I have done.
My Jayco (like all Jaycos I think) have only 12v lights.
For some 12v lights there are LED plug in globes I think. Go to your local caravan parts supplier with your well loaded plastic to see what they've got.
The LED plug ins that I tried in the past were for car stop etc lights and they plugged into the standard car fittings.
I think that I have seen some LEDs that replace the cylinder shaped bulbs that are used in the running lights. Are they called festoon lamps?
-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 31st of May 2012 06:52:34 PM
David .. Thanks for your advice .. much appreciated.
I tried the LED bulbs some time ago but found them unsatisfactory in my case. The ones I tried were designed to work at 90 degrees to the prisim. My sockets put them parallel to the prism so the output was lousy.
A mate who like me has an electronics background, him far more than me, has just finished installing the flexible strip stuff inside his van. I will have to wait for his return from touring WA in a few months, to see how he did it & how it went.
I installed Lumino switchable strips in parallel to my interior & annex lights. They are fantastic and draw less than 100 m/a each.
WRT the running lights, despite my best efforts they are still not waterproof & they suffer from high resistance contacts, requiring frequent mtce. I thought that I would use left over LED strip to replace them.
Now that's a good question, didn't think of that. I'ld be grateful for any experience re same please.
Google is Good....
Led Replacement Globes
And yes I know that technically they aren't globes....
If you mean fluro tubes then you can still do what I have done .. see my pics. Mine have switches at the actual light fittings that allow me to select either or both. You just wire them in parallel.
Not sure that I would bother to change fluros though. The power saving might not be worth the cost/trouble.
By the way .. SWMBO prefers the colour of the old incandescent lights .. She just walked into the study & reminded me of this. With my arrangement I can humour her and use them if I have to or want to.
Thanks for that ...
I see that there are some like BAY15D1236LR that are designed to overcome my tail/stop light problems.
Ain't technology & the free enterprise system great?
I also have strips that I have cut and connected a plug that will connect to a 12v cigarette lighter plug to use on my house battery. Another 12v square light that I've also connected to a plug to also connect to a cig lighter plug to plug into whichever battery I wish. By using plugs I can use the same lead to connect whichever light I wish to use. I was sick of using the computer with a torch when not on 240v.
These are available on Ebay or other sites cheaply from China.
The light is really good and uses a third the power. My lights are both 12v and 240 though not sure what difference that makes. I bought them online from china at a cost of $50 delivered to do the van with a few to spare. The only light I didn't change was the range hood globe because the orientation was different to the others which are (downlight style). It might work but I haven't tried it yet.
They are the two pin style. I looked at them at the Caravan superstore and they were considerably dearer from there.
There are different diameters in these globes too. I would like to say I measured it all up and double checked before I ordered but I DIDN'T THINK OF IT....... They just fitted, thank you god. I could successfully run a disco in my van now with all this lighting.
I already had led reading lights over the beds and I knew they worked really well for reading in bed.
Good luck.
Tess
Thanks David, I'll take a look. For some reason I didn't think they were interchangable, just not kept up with technology I guess. Appreciate the heads up.