There are very specific rules on where they are to be placed on your van.
From memory it is no less than 400mm from the ground, no more than 2000mm high and the left hand leading edge no more than 500mm from the left hand edge of the van.
It is on vehicles 7.5 metres and over.
There is also very specific requirements as to the types of Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle signs to be used and often many outlets sell the wrong ones.
Black letters on yellow retroreflective background.
The front reflective surface of the plate must bear the name of the manufacturer or agent.
When buying plates, make sure that this information is provided on each of them. Plates without this identification will not be accepted.
It also refers to 'plates' so I am not sure if stickers are also allowable....this is something you will need to check.
-- Edited by Boroma577 on Saturday 16th of June 2012 02:29:33 PM
Kaid said
06:06 PM Jun 16, 2012
Just a query. We purchased a Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle sticker at the Brisbane C AND C Show. We have placed it on the left hand side of the van at the recommended distances. Was wondering do we need one on the right hand side of the van as well? Have kept the instructions in the glove box in case any probs
Gerty Dancer said
06:11 PM Jun 16, 2012
The short answer is No, Kaid. Only supposed to be one sticker on the Left-hand side. I'm surprised that caravans dont come with these stickers on them, since they are a requirement for vehicles over 7 meters long.
Kaid said
06:46 PM Jun 16, 2012
Thanks Gerty, just wanted to clarify it . When I told a friend where I put it she said it had to go on the right hand side so I was a bit worried
Gerty Dancer said
07:13 PM Jun 16, 2012
Have a go at the "Search" above on the forum Kaid, theres been lots of discussion about these stickers.
justcruisin01 said
04:48 AM Jun 17, 2012
I check this out recently with the RTA, NSW. before fitting one.
There are verious types & sizes, the one which is the size of a number plate is adiquite, even for trucks.
The rule is that they are to be fitted to the left side only,& if the rig is over the required size, thats the sighn with the ( do not over take ) wording.
The long stick on ones that go right accross are wrong. As for the legal requirments, the sighn ONLY allows you to use additional lane area to make a LEFT HAND TURN. NOT RIGHT HAND TURN.
If you are caught using it for a right turn you can be fined. IF you are making a LEFT turn & some one tries to slip up the left side of you & hits your rig when you are displaying a sighn the you are in the right.
Have a look at the next semi that passes you, they have two reflective sighns fitted, only the left has the wording (do not overtake ) .Proving the rule.
JC.
Kaid said
05:20 AM Jun 17, 2012
Thank you all for your replies. The said sticker was purchased from a reputable organization and has the correct wording on it, instructions were followed to the tee. Did not realize that the sticker could only be used for left hand turn though. This forum never ceases to amaze me with all the information I have obtained.
This site also gives information about complying fitment to the van although both Baroma and JC01 have covered it well.
(I note Kaid has already purchased hers but this info is for the benefit of others coming to this thread)
-- Edited by jimricho on Sunday 17th of June 2012 06:17:41 PM
Landfall said
10:39 PM Jun 17, 2012
Remember seeing a couple of signs on the back of a caravan a few years ago.
The one on the right said "Passing Side"
The one on the left said "Suicide"
Dusty
Boroma577 said
04:00 AM Jun 18, 2012
One of the things I often see with signs is that they do not meet this particular requirement.
The front reflective surface of the plate must bear the name of the manufacturer or agent.
spice said
03:28 PM Jun 18, 2012
justcruisin01 wrote:
, the sighn ONLY allows you to use additional lane area to make a LEFT HAND TURN. NOT RIGHT HAND TURN.
If you are caught using it for a right turn you can be fined. IF you are making a LEFT turn & some one tries to slip up the left side of you & hits your rig when you are displaying a sighn the you are in the right.
Have a look at the next semi that passes you, they have two reflective sighns fitted, only the left has the wording (do not overtake ) .Proving the rule.
JC.
With the sign fitted you are allowed to take up part of the left hand lane to do a RIGHT turn, if you take up part of the left lane without the sign they can book you, Rod
spice said
03:44 PM Jun 18, 2012
Further to my post above the following is from the Roads and Maritime site.
LONG VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING ROUNDABOUTS A vehicle may now enter and exit a roundabout in either lane or both lanes if all of the conditions below are adhered to:
The vehicle is 7.5 metres or longer (including any load or projections).
The vehicle displays a do not overtake turning vehicle sign.
The vehicle is within 50 metres of the nearest point of the roundabout.
It is not practical for the driver to leave the roundabout more than halfway around it from within the right lane or less than halfway around it from the left lane.
Drivers must give way to vehicles entering or exiting the roundabout that are in accordance with this rule.
Rod
Cruising Granny said
01:38 AM Jun 20, 2012
My van doesn't have a space on the left side for the sign. The rear window takes up that space. I have the long one, cut in half and displayed in 2 lines on the right side, between the window and the van R side. I've never been picked up for this one, and don't expect to. Some trucks have the "Do not overtake....." sign on both sides of the trucks. I ought to know - I follow enough of them for a long time to notice. Some states have different conditions for displaying and using this sign. In some states it applies to the left AND right turn. There are times when undertaking a right turn where you will need to use part of both right turning lanes, not just at roundabouts. I think NSW is the strictest with this specification about displaying, size and use.
Smokeydk said
04:42 PM Jun 21, 2012
Reminder...the 7.5mtre.......includes the vehicle and caravan combined....
Keith19837 said
09:20 AM Jun 22, 2012
Kaid wrote:
Just a query. We purchased a Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle sticker at the Brisbane C AND C Show. We have placed it on the left hand side of the van at the recommended distances. Was wondering do we need one on the right hand side of the van as well? Have kept the instructions in the glove box in case any probs
There are some different Regs in different States. In Victoria, the signs can be for Left or Right or both. The length here is 7 metres. If you put them on a shorter vehicle it is an infringement (Offence) yet can assist you in a civil claim (go figure). I only know this from my ex 'plod' days. (spanning 4 decades in VicPol) An interesting point; although the 'turning signs' relate to 7 metres (Vic) a vehicle of over 6 metres cannot park for more than one hour in a B.U.A. unless a permit (council or VicRoads) is obtained or posted signs allow it. Unfortunately, VicRoads have their own protocols which are from time to time at odds with the various Acts and Regs. We used to have arguements with them fairly regularly and their reply was usually similar to "We're the only shop in town". For what it's worth. P.S. Barooma's post re sizes and locations is pretty much exact (for Vic at least).
-- Edited by Keith19837 on Friday 22nd of June 2012 09:22:14 AM
Scotty01 said
03:33 PM Jun 22, 2012
I tow a suzuki sierra behind my 25ft motor home, do I need to have a sign and should it be on the motor homeor on the suzi? would look pretty dum driving the suzi alone with it on,so I guess it would have to be removable when not on tow?
Cruising Granny said
05:00 AM Jun 23, 2012
Scotty01 wrote:
I tow a suzuki sierra behind my 25ft motor home, do I need to have a sign and should it be on the motor homeor on the suzi? would look pretty dum driving the suzi alone with it on,so I guess it would have to be removable when not on tow?
You could install or stick one on the motor home, and maybe a portable sign on the suzy when under tow.
There's more than one way to skin a cat. It's more about safety than anything else.
There are very specific rules on where they are to be placed on your van.
From memory it is no less than 400mm from the ground, no more than 2000mm high and the left hand leading edge no more than 500mm from the left hand edge of the van.
It is on vehicles 7.5 metres and over.
There is also very specific requirements as to the types of Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle signs to be used and often many outlets sell the wrong ones.
Black letters on yellow retroreflective background.
The front reflective surface of the plate must bear the name of the manufacturer or agent.
When buying plates, make sure that this information is provided on each of them. Plates without this identification will not be accepted.
It also refers to 'plates' so I am not sure if stickers are also allowable....this is something you will need to check.
-- Edited by Boroma577 on Saturday 16th of June 2012 02:29:33 PM
Just a query. We purchased a Do Not Overtake Turning Vehicle sticker at the Brisbane C AND C Show. We have placed it on the left hand side of the van at the recommended distances. Was wondering do we need one on the right hand side of the van as well? Have kept the instructions in the glove box in case any probs
I'm surprised that caravans dont come with these stickers on them, since they are a requirement for vehicles over 7 meters long.
Thanks Gerty, just wanted to clarify it . When I told a friend where I put it she said it had to go on the right hand side so I was a bit worried
I check this out recently with the RTA, NSW. before fitting one.
There are verious types & sizes, the one which is the size of a number plate is adiquite, even for trucks.
The rule is that they are to be fitted to the left side only,& if the rig is over the required size, thats the sighn with the ( do not over take ) wording.
The long stick on ones that go right accross are wrong. As for the legal requirments, the sighn ONLY allows you to use additional lane area to make a LEFT HAND TURN. NOT RIGHT HAND TURN.
If you are caught using it for a right turn you can be fined. IF you are making a LEFT turn & some one tries to slip up the left side of you & hits your rig when you are displaying a sighn the you are in the right.
Have a look at the next semi that passes you, they have two reflective sighns fitted, only the left has the wording (do not overtake ) .Proving the rule.
JC.
Thank you all for your replies.
The said sticker was purchased from a reputable organization and has
the correct wording on it, instructions were followed to the tee.
Did not realize that the sticker could only be used for left hand turn though.
This forum never ceases to amaze me with all the information I have obtained.
Complying signs can be purchased from Tow-Ed http://www.getabout.edu.au/product.asp?id=40&pid=12
This site also gives information about complying fitment to the van although both Baroma and JC01 have covered it well.
(I note Kaid has already purchased hers but this info is for the benefit of others coming to this thread)
-- Edited by jimricho on Sunday 17th of June 2012 06:17:41 PM
Remember seeing a couple of signs on the back of a caravan a few years ago.
The one on the right said "Passing Side"
The one on the left said "Suicide"
Dusty
One of the things I often see with signs is that they do not meet this particular requirement.
The front reflective surface of the plate must bear the name of the manufacturer or agent.
With the sign fitted you are allowed to take up part of the left hand lane to do a RIGHT turn, if you take up part of the left lane without the sign they can book you, Rod
LONG VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING ROUNDABOUTS
A vehicle may now enter and exit a roundabout in either lane or both lanes if all of the conditions below are adhered to:
The vehicle is 7.5 metres or longer (including any load or projections).
The vehicle displays a do not overtake turning vehicle sign.
The vehicle is within 50 metres of the nearest point of the roundabout.
It is not practical for the driver to leave the roundabout more than halfway around it from within the right lane or less than halfway around it from the left lane.
Drivers must give way to vehicles entering or exiting the roundabout that are in accordance with this rule.
Rod
I have the long one, cut in half and displayed in 2 lines on the right side, between the window and the van R side. I've never been picked up for this one, and don't expect to.
Some trucks have the "Do not overtake....." sign on both sides of the trucks. I ought to know - I follow enough of them for a long time to notice.
Some states have different conditions for displaying and using this sign. In some states it applies to the left AND right turn.
There are times when undertaking a right turn where you will need to use part of both right turning lanes, not just at roundabouts.
I think NSW is the strictest with this specification about displaying, size and use.
There are some different Regs in different States. In Victoria, the signs can be for Left or Right or both. The length here is 7 metres. If you put them on a shorter vehicle it is an infringement (Offence) yet can assist you in a civil claim (go figure). I only know this from my ex 'plod' days. (spanning 4 decades in VicPol) An interesting point; although the 'turning signs' relate to 7 metres (Vic) a vehicle of over 6 metres cannot park for more than one hour in a B.U.A. unless a permit (council or VicRoads) is obtained or posted signs allow it. Unfortunately, VicRoads have their own protocols which are from time to time at odds with the various Acts and Regs. We used to have arguements with them fairly regularly and their reply was usually similar to "We're the only shop in town". For what it's worth. P.S. Barooma's post re sizes and locations is pretty much exact (for Vic at least).
-- Edited by Keith19837 on Friday 22nd of June 2012 09:22:14 AM
I tow a suzuki sierra behind my 25ft motor home, do I need to have a sign and should it be on the motor homeor on the suzi? would look pretty dum driving the suzi alone with it on,so I guess it would have to be removable when not on tow?
You could install or stick one on the motor home, and maybe a portable sign on the suzy when under tow.
There's more than one way to skin a cat. It's more about safety than anything else.