I now know that I contribute more than a third of my income to taxes because as we know there is tax on everything we purchase except some items of food.
So us pensioners are not such bludgers as they make us out to be.
-- Edited by Onedodger on Thursday 31st of January 2013 04:41:52 PM
Retreat said
07:45 PM Jan 31, 2013
Lets face it; we Grey Nomads lead a purpose-less non-productive life. We just slowly wonder around from town to town, looking but not seeing much due to our poor eyesight.
In general terms we either receive Centre Link benefits (costing the tax payer) or if self-funded through the superannuation system pay no income tax (not contributing to the tax system).
Actually we do contribute some tax, GST & fuel exercise tax etc. We also re-circulate money (or maybe its re-gurgitation money) by putting Centre Link payments back into the community and lowering our superannuation balance through our shopaholic wives. If we buy a new van for $50,000 and a tug for $50,000 we pay around $10,000 GST to treasury, who then wisely spend it fully supporting an illegal boat non-English speaking self-claimed refugee.
For our meagre tax contribution to be worthwhile, Im sure our esteem leaders have constructed a model (financial & demographic) showing there are a greater number of Grey Nomads contribution GST etc. then there are refugee boat people drawing down on the nations social security system.
Now! after all the above jibberish I have a question; It just takes me a long time to get to the point.
How much tax do I day on a litre of Diesel?
Why! You might ask Well: I can see how much tax (gst) I pay from most sales dockets, but the fuel docks only show the GST and no exercise or state taxes.
It is possible us Grey Nomads really are paying our fair share to treasury and we should not feel we are a burden on other tax payers. With the disclosure of all fuel taxes we will be able to calculate each week what we have contributed.
hako said
08:13 PM Jan 31, 2013
Apparently 37% of the cost goes to taxes including excise. Below is the link to the ACCC which explains it all. Makes you wonder about things when you realise it all comes out of a hole in the ground...free! http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1033585?pageDefinitionItemId=86167
Roving-Dutchy said
08:56 PM Jan 31, 2013
There is an easy way to get around all those taxes, just find the hole in the ground where all that free oil is and just fill up for free. Cheers David
Retreat said
10:04 PM Jan 31, 2013
hako wrote:
Apparently 37% of the cost goes to taxes including excise. Below is the link to the ACCC which explains it all. Makes you wonder about things when you realise it all comes out of a hole in the ground...free! http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1033585?pageDefinitionItemId=86167
Great informative web page. Thanks hanko.
Last financial year we travelled 35,000kms for a fuel cost of $7,318. i.e that would be approx $2,700 of taxes. With GST on other purchases I would be paying in excess of $5,000 in taxes. So I am contributing and don't feel like a freeloader.
I always travel with a spade for digging oil wells, but I don't think the spade is any good as it has not found any oil, nor has it got a mining licence.
jimricho said
02:11 AM Feb 1, 2013
Onedodger wrote:
Well thankyou for that info.
I now know that I contribute more than a third of my income to taxes because as we know there is tax on everything we purchase except some items of food.
So us pensioners are not such bludgers as they make us out to be.
-- Edited by Onedodger on Thursday 31st of January 2013 04:41:52 PM
Apart from fuel, alcohol and tobacco which are subject to both excise and tax, the tax rate is one eleventh of the retail price, not one third.
aussietraveller said
05:14 AM Feb 1, 2013
I am sure that we can now realistically expect the price of all fuel to drop in the near future as we will not be locked in to the tapis crude price we will be able to only pay the Australian Shale oil rate, which will probably be somewhere near the same price that the people in Arab states pay for their fuel, Recent news reports indicate that there is enough Shale oil in south Australia to totally meet demand and allow for exports for many many years to come.
rockylizard said
05:18 AM Feb 1, 2013
Gday...
I love your thought processes David .... but do you still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too
Cheers - John
justcruisin01 said
05:25 AM Feb 1, 2013
Don't hold your breath, they will find a poor excuse to charge more than they are entitled to.
Many years back we had a fuel storage system near us, where they transfered from boats at a point in the bay to these tanks. It was then roadtransported over the GDRange to the west & as a result the local towns/villages had the dearest fuel prices in the state.
easy question to answer,, if you don't want to pay fuel taxes, buy a back pack a small tent and walk everywhere,, or buy a bicycle and go bicycle touring... you'll geta better perspective of the country side when you walk through it than you do traveliing at 100kph..... if none of those options appeal then pay the fuel cost and stop groaning about it.... just a thought...
-- Edited by beachball57 on Friday 1st of February 2013 08:52:19 AM
rockylizard said
04:56 PM Feb 1, 2013
beachball57 wrote:
easy question to answer,, if you don't want to pay fuel taxes, buy a back pack a small tent and walk everywhere,, or buy a bicycle and go bicycle touring... you'll geta better perspective of the country side when you walk through it than you do traveliing at 100kph..... if none of those options appeal then pay the fuel cost and stop groaning about it.... just a thought...
Gday...
.... AWWW ya missen da hole point of da discussion ..... we jest wanna vent .... animated discussion with a good whinge clears the head, increases blood flow to the brain and causes a feeling of overal euphoria. AHHHHHH feeling better already Join in and feel the glow
Cheers - John
turbopete said
03:54 PM Feb 2, 2013
"we Grey Nomads lead a purpose-less non-productive life" I suggest you change the first word to I and refer to yourself What a negative person you are,you may lead a non productive life,i dont
Retreat said
05:08 PM Feb 2, 2013
turbopete wrote:
"we Grey Nomads lead a purpose-less non-productive life" I suggest you change the first word to I and refer to yourself What a negative person you are,you may lead a non productive life,i dont
Settle down Peter, it was part of the (meant to be humorous) per-amble of a tongue-in-cheek comment to find out what taxes we all pay on our diesel. The info was graciously provided by Justcrusin01 and Sheba.
Im sure, you in particular along with all grey nomads, are making significant worthwhile contributions to society in many inventive and imaginative ways.
Society gains an enormous benefit just by tapping into our vast collective bank of knowledge and wisdom.
Well thankyou for that info.
I now know that I contribute more than a third of my income to taxes because as we know there is tax on everything we purchase except some items of food.
So us pensioners are not such bludgers as they make us out to be.
-- Edited by Onedodger on Thursday 31st of January 2013 04:41:52 PM
Lets face it; we Grey Nomads lead a purpose-less non-productive life. We just slowly wonder around from town to town, looking but not seeing much due to our poor eyesight.
In general terms we either receive Centre Link benefits (costing the tax payer) or if self-funded through the superannuation system pay no income tax (not contributing to the tax system).
Actually we do contribute some tax, GST & fuel exercise tax etc. We also re-circulate money (or maybe its re-gurgitation money) by putting Centre Link payments back into the community and lowering our superannuation balance through our shopaholic wives. If we buy a new van for $50,000 and a tug for $50,000 we pay around $10,000 GST to treasury, who then wisely spend it fully supporting an illegal boat non-English speaking self-claimed refugee.
For our meagre tax contribution to be worthwhile, Im sure our esteem leaders have constructed a model (financial & demographic) showing there are a greater number of Grey Nomads contribution GST etc. then there are refugee boat people drawing down on the nations social security system.
Now! after all the above jibberish I have a question; It just takes me a long time to get to the point.
How much tax do I day on a litre of Diesel?
Why! You might ask Well: I can see how much tax (gst) I pay from most sales dockets, but the fuel docks only show the GST and no exercise or state taxes.
It is possible us Grey Nomads really are paying our fair share to treasury and we should not feel we are a burden on other tax payers. With the disclosure of all fuel taxes we will be able to calculate each week what we have contributed.
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1033585?pageDefinitionItemId=86167
Cheers
David
Great informative web page. Thanks hanko.
Last financial year we travelled 35,000kms for a fuel cost of $7,318. i.e that would be approx $2,700 of taxes. With GST on other purchases I would be paying in excess of $5,000 in taxes. So I am contributing and don't feel like a freeloader.
I always travel with a spade for digging oil wells, but I don't think the spade is any good as it has not found any oil, nor has it got a mining licence.
Apart from fuel, alcohol and tobacco which are subject to both excise and tax, the tax rate is one eleventh of the retail price, not one third.
Gday...
I love your thought processes David .... but do you still believe in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny too
Cheers - John
Don't hold your breath, they will find a poor excuse to charge more than they are entitled to.
Many years back we had a fuel storage system near us, where they transfered from boats at a point in the bay to these tanks. It was then roadtransported over the GDRange to the west & as a result the local towns/villages had the dearest fuel prices in the state.
JC.
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1033585?pageDefinitionItemId=86167
easy question to answer,, if you don't want to pay fuel taxes, buy a back pack a small tent and walk everywhere,, or buy a bicycle and go bicycle touring... you'll geta better perspective of the country side when you walk through it than you do traveliing at 100kph..... if none of those options appeal then pay the fuel cost and stop groaning about it.... just a thought...
-- Edited by beachball57 on Friday 1st of February 2013 08:52:19 AM
Gday...
Cheers - John
Settle down Peter, it was part of the (meant to be humorous) per-amble of a tongue-in-cheek comment to find out what taxes we all pay on our diesel. The info was graciously provided by Justcrusin01 and Sheba.
Im sure, you in particular along with all grey nomads, are making significant worthwhile contributions to society in many inventive and imaginative ways.
Society gains an enormous benefit just by tapping into our vast collective bank of knowledge and wisdom.