Christ! can we use your address to rego mine . Couple of hundred seems fine but 500 to get bigger and deeper potholes is over the top. If history tells us anything we can expect anywhere from 15 /25 % increases every year . When you consider a box trailer with a load capacity the weight of my van is $54 and if used by a builder is on the road every day. Then there is the vehicle insurance and inspection fees in NSW vans are classed as motor vehicles not what they really are , trailers
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 12th of April 2013 03:11:22 PM
Wombat 280 said
03:13 PM Apr 12, 2013
Yep! the home of Ned Kelly gang and they reside in Macquarie Street Sydney
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 12th of April 2013 03:15:00 PM
msg said
03:48 PM Apr 12, 2013
I think it would be interesting to see how much charges have gone up in the last three yrs. Don't forget, along with registration, you have insurance both compulsory and comprehensive, and petrol. I bet there would be BIG increases in cost of keeping vehicle on road. Oh I didn't mention tyres, spare parts and services. All those levies hidden in the cost.
Maybe I don't want to know, I might depress me.
-- Edited by msg on Friday 12th of April 2013 03:51:51 PM
herbie said
04:00 PM Apr 12, 2013
Sure as hell adds up when you are on the road,and i am not taking into consideration of NSW rego prices ,when we took 12 months off work two years ago and did 34.000ks around Oz,at the end of the twelve months it had cost us $34.000 .It worked out to be $1000 per 1000ks.
I sent a post to some one earlier regarding how just having 60/80 kilos extra weight carted with you can add up to extra $$$. For every kilo carted for a distance of 1000ks the numbers fall out at around 1.12 cents. i know it dosn't appear to be much but over 1000ks that adds up to $10 If doing the big lap say at 30.000ks that adds up to around $337 odd dollars.It all adds up at the end of the day.that is one reason i do not carry extra fuel if i do not have to,as the price you pay for the fuel at where ever as it maybe cheaper ,dosn't always work out to be cheaper in the end as the extra weight get's lost with the extra fuel one uses to carry it.That also goes for water.
-- Edited by herbie on Friday 12th of April 2013 04:12:46 PM
Roving-Dutchy said
09:05 PM Apr 12, 2013
herbie wrote:
Sure as hell adds up when you are on the road,and i am not taking into consideration of NSW rego prices ,when we took 12 months off work two years ago and did 34.000ks around Oz,at the end of the twelve months it had cost us $34.000 .It worked out to be $1000 per 1000ks.
I sent a post to some one earlier regarding how just having 60/80 kilos extra weight carted with you can add up to extra $$$. For every kilo carted for a distance of 1000ks the numbers fall out at around 1.12 cents. i know it dosn't appear to be much but over 1000ks that adds up to $10 If doing the big lap say at 30.000ks that adds up to around $337 odd dollars.It all adds up at the end of the day.that is one reason i do not carry extra fuel if i do not have to,as the price you pay for the fuel at where ever as it maybe cheaper ,dosn't always work out to be cheaper in the end as the extra weight get's lost with the extra fuel one uses to carry it.That also goes for water.
-- Edited by herbie on Friday 12th of April 2013 04:12:46 PM
Hi Herbie
Are those your actual running costs or does that total include all your living expenses, to me it does seem strange to apply these costs against the number of K's travelled.
I have found that the biggest cost in running a vehicle of any description is the yearly depreciation which in my case has usually averaged about $5000 a year on a initial purchase price of about $55,000
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Friday 12th of April 2013 09:11:00 PM
Wombat 280 said
09:40 PM Apr 12, 2013
The old chestnut has come to the surface again so I contacted my local pollie to express concerns at the cost of Van and MH rego in NSW and to see what their thoughts were on the subject. Not unexpected I got the "Blame the other guy response" I think now is the time for all NSW Van and MH owners to band together and pepper their local pollie with requests to look at the comparisons with other states who charge less than half that of NSW. Near enough to $500.00 to register a basic 16 footer is over the top and can't be justified in anyone eyes .
It needs all NSW RV Vehicle owners to become active to change this situation,NOW
Wow that's a lot of money. Our van to register it in SA for 12 months is $87.
herbie said
10:08 PM Apr 12, 2013
That amount of money is just unbeliavable, it is no wonder people who come from NSW ,try to rent / borrow a friend or family member in another state to have their vihicle registered in. I know people who live on the boarders of NSW/VIC /NSW/SA who have all their vihicles registered the next state other than NSW .Now i under stand why now.
Brenda and Alan said
11:53 PM Apr 12, 2013
Goodness me! Glad I live in Vic - our rego for the van is only $46.50.
GaryKelly said
12:46 AM Apr 13, 2013
Lucky me has a slide on which is included with the ute as a single unit. And the fact that I'm a pensioner means I get both rego and licence in NSW free.
Wombat 280 said
01:18 AM Apr 13, 2013
Now there's a point a slide on may be the answer . Good point thanks for that. I pointed out to the pollies that a box trailer that can carry more than the weight of my van doesn't even cost $100.00 But they say a van is a motor vehicle while a trailer is a trailer. So show me the self propelled mechanism on a van and I agree it's a motor vehicle. That's when the dumb silence pervades the room and they move on to another question. And we pay these people for What
Olley46 said
04:03 AM Apr 13, 2013
GaryKelly wrote:
Lucky me has a slide on which is included with the ute as a single unit. And the fact that I'm a pensioner means I get both rego and licence in NSW free.
Don't forget the green slip Gary.
Pete49 said
07:37 AM Apr 13, 2013
Pension rate for our 16ft vanin SA is $46.50 and so we are ok with that.
Rego is only a small part of the car cost I guess the gree slip would be a bit rough?
Pete
Cupie said
11:18 AM Apr 13, 2013
21'6" Jayco rego without discount in Qld
(we take our concessional discount on the dearer Patrol rego .. I thought that there was one discount per couple .. must check)
2003 - 04 ... $111
2004 - 05 ... ?
2005 - 06 ... ?
2006 - 07 ... $118
2007 - 08 ... $121
2008 - 09 ... $127
2009 -10 ... $157
2010 - 11 ... $162
2011 - 12 .... ?
2012 - 13 ... $170
ps. No mechanical inspections required for rego on any vehicles in Qld .. except on sale.
-- Edited by Cupie on Saturday 13th of April 2013 11:22:28 AM
-- Edited by Cupie on Saturday 13th of April 2013 11:24:10 AM
brickies said
01:21 PM Apr 13, 2013
Are we talking about motor Van not a Caravan there is a difference , How much does it cost for a Caravan rego in NSW
justcruisin01 said
04:06 PM Apr 13, 2013
Its all based on the weight of a van, so the same charges are made as to a motor vehicle as they are based on weight as well.
The only difference is that a van does not require the third party green slip.
Its all a rip off but in saying nsw does have free rego for pensioners, you do still have to pay for the third party green slipfor a vehicle but the actual rego part is free, a caravan is totaly free.
So you have the tug in hubby's name & the van in wife's name, a bit harder for solo's.
I believe that other states only give a small discount. Also spoke to a guy some time back & said that Qld rego's are dearer than ours.by time he got his discount on a tug it was still about the same as nsw normal price.
JC.
Gerty Dancer said
08:45 PM Apr 13, 2013
15 foot Jayco caravan NSW 2013 ... $470
herbie said
08:55 PM Apr 13, 2013
Roving-Dutchy wrote:
herbie wrote:
Sure as hell adds up when you are on the road,and i am not taking into consideration of NSW rego prices ,when we took 12 months off work two years ago and did 34.000ks around Oz,at the end of the twelve months it had cost us $34.000 .It worked out to be $1000 per 1000ks.
I sent a post to some one earlier regarding how just having 60/80 kilos extra weight carted with you can add up to extra $$$. For every kilo carted for a distance of 1000ks the numbers fall out at around 1.12 cents. i know it dosn't appear to be much but over 1000ks that adds up to $10 If doing the big lap say at 30.000ks that adds up to around $337 odd dollars.It all adds up at the end of the day.that is one reason i do not carry extra fuel if i do not have to,as the price you pay for the fuel at where ever as it maybe cheaper ,dosn't always work out to be cheaper in the end as the extra weight get's lost with the extra fuel one uses to carry it.That also goes for water.
-- Edited by herbie on Friday 12th of April 2013 04:12:46 PM
Hi Herbie
Are those your actual running costs or does that total include all your living expenses, to me it does seem strange to apply these costs against the number of K's travelled.
I have found that the biggest cost in running a vehicle of any description is the yearly depreciation which in my case has usually averaged about $5000 a year on a initial purchase price of about $55,000
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Friday 12th of April 2013 09:11:00 PM
These costs were for fuel/living/c/ van park fees /sight seeing. If we had not done a lot of free camping add another $5.000/6.000 on top of that as some of the parks can get up around $45/50 per night. I never take depreciation into account ,as that's just the down fall one has to wear, are we would just have to leave the vehicle garaged from brand new.
Cupie said
02:02 AM Apr 14, 2013
I have found that the biggest cost in running a vehicle of any description is the yearly depreciation which in my case has usually averaged about $5000 a year on a initial purchase price of about $55,000
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy
Might be that you need to purchase a vehicle after the rapid early depreciation phase.
My 1995 GQ Patrol was purchased in 1999 for $30,000. Probably worth a couple of thousand now if I could find a buyer that is.
So over 14 years I have 'lost' $28,000 or thereabouts... or around $2000/year. Not too bad I suppose. I have got a lot more than $28K of pleasure from the old girl and she keeps on giving. The Patrol that is. (It costs about that for a few months touring UK & Europe).
We are asked to pay a lot for the pleasure of driving round in the latest nice shiny thingo.
herbie said
04:08 AM Apr 14, 2013
Cupie wrote:
I have found that the biggest cost in running a vehicle of any description is the yearly depreciation which in my case has usually averaged about $5000 a year on a initial purchase price of about $55,000
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy
Might be that you need to purchase a vehicle after the rapid early depreciation phase.
My 1995 GQ Patrol was purchased in 1999 for $30,000. Probably worth a couple of thousand now if I could find a buyer that is.
So over 14 years I have 'lost' $28,000 or thereabouts... or around $2000/year. Not too bad I suppose. I have got a lot more than $28K of pleasure from the old girl and she keeps on giving. The Patrol that is. (It costs about that for a few months touring UK & Europe).
We are asked to pay a lot for the pleasure of driving round in the latest nice shiny thingo.
As sooon as you drive out the dealers yard, after paying for you ortomatically loose around $10.000 now they recon.
Roving-Dutchy said
04:09 AM Apr 14, 2013
Hi Cupie Its not just the nice shiny thingo that you get to drive, when you buy new or near new its the latest safety features such as multiple air bags, emergency brake assist, traction control, ABS braking, electronic stability control and many safety features that are constantly being upgraded to help with lessening injury if you are in a crash and even help to avoid an accident in the first place. I would much prefer less money in my bank account than major injury or death, ok so the depreciation is higher but so be it I'll wear that. Cheers David
Wombat 280 said
12:22 AM May 27, 2013
Have heard back from the Pollies concerned and they are now committed to reviewing the registration costings for Vans and Motor Homes . The general consensus is that yes they are high and need to be examined. So here's hoping the Little Guy has a win at last. I will give another few moths and have another go at speeding things up. Your help by contacting The Hon Duncan Gay MLC at office@gay.minister.nsw.gov.au The time is Now or Never
Christ! can we use your address to rego mine . Couple of hundred seems fine but 500 to get bigger and deeper potholes is over the top. If history tells us anything we can expect anywhere from 15 /25 % increases every year . When you consider a box trailer with a load capacity the weight of my van is $54 and if used by a builder is on the road every day. Then there is the vehicle insurance and inspection fees in NSW vans are classed as motor vehicles not what they really are , trailers
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 12th of April 2013 03:11:22 PM
Yep! the home of Ned Kelly gang and they reside in Macquarie Street Sydney
-- Edited by Wombat 280 on Friday 12th of April 2013 03:15:00 PM
I think it would be interesting to see how much charges have gone up in the last three yrs. Don't forget, along with registration, you have insurance both compulsory and comprehensive, and petrol. I bet there would be BIG increases in cost of keeping vehicle on road. Oh I didn't mention tyres, spare parts and services. All those levies hidden in the cost.
Maybe I don't want to know, I might depress me.
-- Edited by msg on Friday 12th of April 2013 03:51:51 PM
Sure as hell adds up when you are on the road,and i am not taking into consideration of NSW rego prices ,when we took 12 months off work two years ago and did 34.000ks around Oz,at the end of the twelve months it had cost us $34.000 .It worked out to be $1000 per 1000ks.
I sent a post to some one earlier regarding how just having 60/80 kilos extra weight carted with you can add up to extra $$$. For every kilo carted for a distance of 1000ks the numbers fall out at around 1.12 cents. i know it dosn't appear to be much but over 1000ks that adds up to $10 If doing the big lap say at 30.000ks that adds up to around $337 odd dollars.It all adds up at the end of the day.that is one reason i do not carry extra fuel if i do not have to,as the price you pay for the fuel at where ever as it maybe cheaper ,dosn't always work out to be cheaper in the end as the extra weight get's lost with the extra fuel one uses to carry it.That also goes for water.
-- Edited by herbie on Friday 12th of April 2013 04:12:46 PM
Hi Herbie
Are those your actual running costs or does that total include all your living expenses, to me it does seem strange to apply these costs against the number of K's travelled.
I have found that the biggest cost in running a vehicle of any description is the yearly depreciation which in my case has usually averaged about $5000 a year on a initial purchase price of about $55,000
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Friday 12th of April 2013 09:11:00 PM
The old chestnut has come to the surface again so I contacted my local pollie to express concerns at the cost of Van and MH rego in NSW and to see what their thoughts were on the subject. Not unexpected I got the "Blame the other guy response" I think now is the time for all NSW Van and MH owners to band together and pepper their local pollie with requests to look at the comparisons with other states who charge less than half that of NSW. Near enough to $500.00 to register a basic 16 footer is over the top and can't be justified in anyone eyes .
It needs all NSW RV Vehicle owners to become active to change this situation,NOW
That amount of money is just unbeliavable, it is no wonder people who come from NSW ,try to rent / borrow a friend or family member in another state to have their vihicle registered in. I know people who live on the boarders of NSW/VIC /NSW/SA who have all their vihicles registered the next state other than NSW .Now i under stand why now.
Don't forget the green slip Gary.
Pension rate for our 16ft vanin SA is $46.50 and so we are ok with that.
Rego is only a small part of the car cost I guess the gree slip would be a bit rough?
Pete
21'6" Jayco rego without discount in Qld
(we take our concessional discount on the dearer Patrol rego .. I thought that there was one discount per couple .. must check)
2003 - 04 ... $111
2004 - 05 ... ?
2005 - 06 ... ?
2006 - 07 ... $118
2007 - 08 ... $121
2008 - 09 ... $127
2009 -10 ... $157
2010 - 11 ... $162
2011 - 12 .... ?
2012 - 13 ... $170
ps. No mechanical inspections required for rego on any vehicles in Qld .. except on sale.
-- Edited by Cupie on Saturday 13th of April 2013 11:22:28 AM
-- Edited by Cupie on Saturday 13th of April 2013 11:24:10 AM
Its all based on the weight of a van, so the same charges are made as to a motor vehicle as they are based on weight as well.
The only difference is that a van does not require the third party green slip.
Its all a rip off but in saying nsw does have free rego for pensioners, you do still have to pay for the third party green slipfor a vehicle but the actual rego part is free, a caravan is totaly free.
So you have the tug in hubby's name & the van in wife's name, a bit harder for solo's.
I believe that other states only give a small discount. Also spoke to a guy some time back & said that Qld rego's are dearer than ours.by time he got his discount on a tug it was still about the same as nsw normal price.
JC.
These costs were for fuel/living/c/ van park fees /sight seeing. If we had not done a lot of free camping add another $5.000/6.000 on top of that as some of the parks can get up around $45/50 per night. I never take depreciation into account ,as that's just the down fall one has to wear, are we would just have to leave the vehicle garaged from brand new.
As sooon as you drive out the dealers yard, after paying for you ortomatically loose around $10.000 now they recon.
Its not just the nice shiny thingo that you get to drive, when you buy new or near new its the latest safety features such as multiple air bags, emergency brake assist, traction control, ABS braking, electronic stability control and many safety features that are constantly being upgraded to help with lessening injury if you are in a crash and even help to avoid an accident in the first place.
I would much prefer less money in my bank account than major injury or death, ok so the depreciation is higher but so be it I'll wear that.
Cheers
David
Have heard back from the Pollies concerned and they are now committed to reviewing the registration costings for Vans and Motor Homes . The general consensus is that yes they are high and need to be examined. So here's hoping the Little Guy has a win at last. I will give another few moths and have another go at speeding things up. Your help by contacting The Hon Duncan Gay MLC at office@gay.minister.nsw.gov.au The time is Now or Never