OK Gerty - where do I find these 'bush' camps? I often wonder what would happen if I just left the highway and ducked into some of these side roads -other than I would probably either get stuck or not be able to turn around and get out again Is there info some where for people who dont want to stray too far from the sealed roads?
-- Edited by spida on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 08:48:48 AM
herbie said
12:29 PM May 1, 2013
Before you drive into some of these places the best advice i can give you is do what we do, one of us goes for a walk in first to have a quick look see ,to make sure one can turn around or park up first,or if there is rubbish left like beer/bottles cans in camp fires, if it is not that far out from a town , you can bet that the perfect camp spot you just found is the local hoons camp also.
-- Edited by herbie on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 12:31:02 PM
herbie said
02:34 PM May 1, 2013
GaryKelly wrote:
I camped as a kid and called it camping. Nothing else. In those days, it was out in the bush with not a soul in sight so skinny dipping was the order of the day.
As to "free", my camper is a "Freeway". Not much I can do about that. So now that we have camping sorted, what do you call staying in a caravan park?
Gary staying in a caravan park ,is paying for the privilege of being on some one elses property and obaying their rules and regulations.So i guess you would call it paying for owning a RV of sorts. The old saying user pays , in this case for not a lot.
-- Edited by herbie on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 02:34:41 PM
spida said
03:31 PM May 1, 2013
I was 'corrected' the other day - 'we do NOT free camp - we are Independant Campers'.
I want to start a new trend!
Independant - to clunky
Free - now a dirty word it seems
Freedom - a bit 'proper' and only heard it once
Bush - mmmm what is that - maybe all the places not in the 'bible' that I dont know about.
So - from now on if I am not paying for a CP then I am simply CAMPING
Anyone care to join me?
Gerty Dancer said
03:35 PM May 1, 2013
Outside caravan parks theres two types of camping for us, true "bush camping" in remote quiet, unspoilt areas, or rest-stops overnight on long-distance drives.
rockylizard said
03:38 PM May 1, 2013
Gday...
Like ya thinkin' .... I have just been camping since I was 15 - we never called it anything else.
"Free/independent/freedom/bush" are all new words ... much the same that everyone these days are 'guys' YUK ! ! !
Cheers - John
PS: I lurve gettin' old - I can now justify my grumpiness
fireheart said
04:06 PM May 1, 2013
Hi Spida,
Interesting thread. I always thought of free camping, however for me it has a ring to it that does not sit well with me as I like to pay my way, never really thought about camping as I have never really liked camping as such, even when I was a scout leader, but now as I am about to embark upon a new lifestyle, camping seems to sit well. It is a form of camping and in 5***** luxury of hot and cold running water, inside plumbing, and a warm soft bed. Like the sound of this kind of camping, so camping it shall be.
Sharon.
Gerty Dancer said
04:26 PM May 1, 2013
spida wrote:
OK Gerty - where do I find these 'bush' camps? I often wonder what would happen if I just left the highway and ducked into some of these side roads -other than I would probably either get stuck or not be able to turn around and get out again Is there info some where for people who dont want to stray too far from the sealed roads?
-- Edited by spida on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 08:48:48 AM
We have found quite a few in the past, some are mentioned in the Camps books, some were literally out in the bush or desert when we had a tent and 4WD. Read Peter and Margarets blog, look at the Explore Oz website. Some National parks have cheap campsites, some are better than others.
These days you rarely find a quiet spot, many have been closed, for example there used to be lovely camp spots along the Eyre highway towards the cliffs. Theres so many nomads on the road its like a caravan park with no facilities in most "free camps".
Youre right about going up bush-tracks, we've had to learn how to do a u-ie on narrow roads! but sometimes you find a nice area. Camping on your own isnt recommended nowadays for safety reasons.
eureka said
04:31 PM May 1, 2013
spida wrote:
OK Gerty - where do I find these 'bush' camps? I often wonder what would happen if I just left the highway and ducked into some of these side roads -other than I would probably either get stuck or not be able to turn around and get out again Is there info some where for people who dont want to stray too far from the sealed roads?
-- Edited by spida on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 08:48:48 AM
Spida, my thoughts exactly, I'ts a bit intimidating to go off the main road on you own. I really would like to see what's at the end of that dirt road but, I'm responsible for my own actions so I think twice, as you do.
No matter where I am I'm just campingand really....nothings free....what did it cost to set up to 'free camp'
And am following your blog Spida, you go girl !!!!!
Landfall said
06:51 PM May 1, 2013
Camping it is for us also.
Even when just stoppong for the night somewhere, it's still camping.
Never beenn brought up expecting a "free" ride.
Ken
Cloak said
07:13 PM May 1, 2013
When I finally retire (not long now) I will explore every road in Australia to find the perfect camping spots.... That's not too ambitious is it?
I camped as a kid and called it camping. Nothing else. In those days, it was out in the bush with not a soul in sight so skinny dipping was the order of the day.
As to "free", my camper is a "Freeway". Not much I can do about that. So now that we have camping sorted, what do you call staying in a caravan park?
way2gokev said
09:11 PM May 1, 2013
G'day
As a GN I love going bush and being in the bush, to me it will allways be going bush, where ever it is.
So I'll be hinching up my swag and waltzing around this paridise we call Aus and you can all come a waltzing with me if you so wish.
cheers
Kev
jules47 said
10:09 PM May 1, 2013
GaryKelly wrote:
I camped as a kid and called it camping. Nothing else. In those days, it was out in the bush with not a soul in sight so skinny dipping was the order of the day.
As to "free", my camper is a "Freeway". Not much I can do about that. So now that we have camping sorted, what do you call staying in a caravan park?
Caravan parking???????
Happywanderer said
10:38 PM May 1, 2013
I still call it Free Camping. I always think of Free as in Yippeeee! I'm free to do what I want, not This is going to cost me nothing.
beiffe said
11:33 PM May 1, 2013
I have not been in a caravan park for over two years so I suppose I am camping. I use the camps book, I collect camp spots like others collect stamps and I use google earth to look for sites in an area where I want to camp. I am happy if I am on my own but I am usually away from a town and often miles from the main road. Regards Brian
Cloak said
12:46 AM May 2, 2013
I think is nice we have the time to think about such things.
A few years ago I was neck deep in forecasts, deltas, campaigns, deadlines and market share.
No time to even consider there is another way to live. In fact I'm going to remove the word 'trivial' from my vocab...
Cheers
Steve
AmandaJayne said
02:15 AM May 2, 2013
I suppose I can call it independant camping because we've spent lots on making the bus as independant as possible.. so I can't call it free camping because it did cost to put the solar systems up in the first place.... but I do enjoy being out of the towns and in the bush :)
03_troopy said
02:48 AM May 2, 2013
Like Beiffe, I also check out spots on Google earth while planning our route. It's amazing when you see a spot on Google Earth, then find it in real life and stay the night.
sandsmere said
02:57 AM May 2, 2013
We call it free camping because that's what it is to us . Use stock routes often where you can get well off the road .
also often stay at cheaper campsites . We don't need facilities . On some rare occasions we go to a CP .
Plendo said
03:42 AM May 2, 2013
I don't care what we call it, I recognise all the names, and I woud not be precious about any of them.
I just want to get out there. Only another 10 months to wait till we hook up the van for a trial run.
herbie said
03:48 AM May 2, 2013
AmandaJayne wrote:
I suppose I can call it independant camping because we've spent lots on making the bus as independant as possible.. so I can't call it free camping because it did cost to put the solar systems up in the first place.... but I do enjoy being out of the towns and in the bush :)
We all have to spend money to become free wheelers , but the free camp you stay at dosn't come free some one had to pay for it in the first place and in some cases the on going up keep.
Jack Mac said
04:39 AM May 2, 2013
Whilst not wishing to disagree with anything said previously, we all seem to be scared of the so called local hoons.
I can still remember (just) back to my teens when the drinking age was 21 and as teenagers with our first cars we would go to local bush spots, in those days only 7 miles out of Bne and about a mile from home, and have a drink (two pot screamers) and generally stuff around. It was basically that or the drive-in.
We weren't out to commit murder and mayhem. I think for teens in most small towns it is quite possibly the same. If you are somewhere and the "kids" come in, introduce yourself, you might be surprised at their response. Sometimes they are as fascinated to hear of your travels as you may be to talk to them.
In most cases I think you'll find they are working kids letting off a bit of steam and not trying to annoy or bother anyone. Beats going to the pub, drinking and brawling. so what if they have a drink and sleep it off in their cars. That's what we do at happy hour only with a bit more comfort. Get to know them, (don't lecture them) it might just be the best security you can have.
What are the statistics of grey nomads being monstered by local hoons? Belligerence begets belligerence.
In my case I'vealways been more fearful of the more mature person (read "cranky old bugger")with drink in him and an axe to grind.
I love to meet the kids they often bring a refreshing view to things and they are the generation who'll be looking after us in our dotage. Let them see that we are not a close minded group of old narks, you may be surprised.
Cheers,
Jack
hako said
05:06 AM May 2, 2013
Jack Mac wrote:
Whilst not wishing to disagree with anything said previously, we all seem to be scared of the so called local hoons.
SNIP
I love to meet the kids they often bring a refreshing view to things and they are the generation who'll be looking after us in our dotage. Let them see that we are not a close minded group of old narks, you may be surprised.
Cheers,
Jack
Spot on Jack, I have to agree 100% with you. I've been in some "interesting" situations or places at times and simply talked my way out of it with verbal and body language.
Regards
Denis
Duh said
12:33 PM May 2, 2013
Interesting results Spida, thanks for posting that, how long does the poll last?
Loved Edith Falls, been there twice. Last time I was there there were a couple of places just outside the gate for long rigs, still had to pay the camping fee but had the use of facilities etc. Some big rigs would camp on the open area on the corner of the main highway and the road into the falls and just drive their vehicles down there for the day. Not sure if that is still allowed, did you notice any there on your way in or out ?????
The walk to the top to the little falls above Edith falls was great too.
-- Edited by Duh on Thursday 2nd of May 2013 12:41:57 PM
jules47 said
01:51 PM May 2, 2013
Completely agree with you JackMac - the young of today are no different than we were "way back then" - just want to have some fun.
Read Yeoeleven's story about getting his Coaster ready - these are all young people helping him - (well Larry is 51) - - they have loaned him cars, worked on the Coaster, given him a home base, and he will tell you, become his good friends. Like Billeeeeeee and I he was pleasantly surprised at a "OzHop" battle, at the good behavior of the young people there.
My grandson had his 18th birthday party at a local showgrounds hall - most of the kids walked to the party, and home again. Those who came in cars, either slept in them or walked home, either to their own places or someone elses.
The local policeman commented to the Show Society secretary that he had thought with so many there, he had expected trouble, but was pleasantly surprised at how all there were just having fun!
spida said
07:07 PM May 2, 2013
Thank you all for your comments. I almost wish now that I had an Off-road van but I agree about safety also. At least the rest areas usually have others there. Stayed at Edith Falls last night. Very tight road around the camping area with lots of posts and large rocks and not easy to find a parking spot long enough so I didnt have to unhitch - BUT divine swim in the pool twice during the day!
spida said
11:25 PM May 3, 2013
Poll lasts for 3 weeks. I figured by then the post would be well buried:) I seem to be too early - some walks at the falls were closed also and no swimming in the top pools.
Duh said
07:34 AM May 4, 2013
Thanks Spida, pity about the top falls, but always other times etc.
Did you notice anyone camped up at the corner of the entry road and main highway ?????
OK Gerty - where do I find these 'bush' camps?
I often wonder what would happen if I just left the highway and ducked into some of these side roads -other than I would probably either get stuck or not be able to turn around and get out again
Is there info some where for people who dont want to stray too far from the sealed roads?
-- Edited by spida on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 08:48:48 AM
Before you drive into some of these places the best advice i can give you is do what we do, one of us goes for a walk in first to have a quick look see ,to make sure one can turn around or park up first,or if there is rubbish left like beer/bottles cans in camp fires, if it is not that far out from a town , you can bet that the perfect camp spot you just found is the local hoons camp also.
-- Edited by herbie on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 12:31:02 PM
Gary staying in a caravan park ,is paying for the privilege of being on some one elses property and obaying their rules and regulations.So i guess you would call it paying for owning a RV of sorts. The old saying user pays , in this case for not a lot.
-- Edited by herbie on Wednesday 1st of May 2013 02:34:41 PM
I was 'corrected' the other day - 'we do NOT free camp - we are Independant Campers'.
I want to start a new trend!
Independant - to clunky
Free - now a dirty word it seems
Freedom - a bit 'proper' and only heard it once
Bush - mmmm what is that - maybe all the places not in the 'bible' that I dont know about.
So - from now on if I am not paying for a CP then I am simply CAMPING
Anyone care to join me?
Gday...
Like ya thinkin' .... I have just been camping since I was 15 - we never called it anything else.
"Free/independent/freedom/bush" are all new words ... much the same that everyone these days are 'guys' YUK ! ! !
Cheers - John
PS: I lurve gettin' old - I can now justify my grumpiness
Interesting thread. I always thought of free camping, however for me it has a ring to it that does not sit well with me as I like to pay my way, never really thought about camping as I have never really liked camping as such, even when I was a scout leader, but now as I am about to embark upon a new lifestyle, camping seems to sit well. It is a form of camping and in 5***** luxury of hot and cold running water, inside plumbing, and a warm soft bed. Like the sound of this kind of camping, so camping it shall be.
Sharon.
We have found quite a few in the past, some are mentioned in the Camps books, some were literally out in the bush or desert when we had a tent and 4WD. Read Peter and Margarets blog, look at the Explore Oz website. Some National parks have cheap campsites, some are better than others.
These days you rarely find a quiet spot, many have been closed, for example there used to be lovely camp spots along the Eyre highway towards the cliffs. Theres so many nomads on the road its like a caravan park with no facilities in most "free camps".
Youre right about going up bush-tracks, we've had to learn how to do a u-ie on narrow roads! but sometimes you find a nice area. Camping on your own isnt recommended nowadays for safety reasons.
Spida, my thoughts exactly, I'ts a bit intimidating to go off the main road on you own. I really would like to see what's at the end of that dirt road but, I'm responsible for my own actions so I think twice, as you do.
No matter where I am I'm just camping and really....nothings free....what did it cost to set up to 'free camp'
And am following your blog Spida, you go girl !!!!!
Camping it is for us also.
Even when just stoppong for the night somewhere, it's still camping.
Never beenn brought up expecting a "free" ride.
Ken
Maybe every second road.
I said exactly the same thing a couple of days ago here.
http://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t53505573/free-camping/?page=2&sort=newestFirst
As to "free", my camper is a "Freeway". Not much I can do about that. So now that we have camping sorted, what do you call staying in a caravan park?
G'day
As a GN I love going bush and being in the bush, to me it will allways be going bush, where ever it is.
So I'll be hinching up my swag and waltzing around this paridise we call Aus and you can all come a waltzing with me if you so wish.
cheers
Kev
Caravan parking???????
I use the camps book, I collect camp spots like others collect stamps and I use google earth to look for sites in an area where I want to camp.
I am happy if I am on my own but I am usually away from a town and often miles from the main road.
Regards
Brian
A few years ago I was neck deep in forecasts, deltas, campaigns, deadlines and market share.
No time to even consider there is another way to live. In fact I'm going to remove the word 'trivial' from my vocab...
Cheers
Steve
We call it free camping because that's what it is to us . Use stock routes often where you can get well off the road .
also often stay at cheaper campsites . We don't need facilities . On some rare occasions we go to a CP .
I don't care what we call it, I recognise all the names, and I woud not be precious about any of them.
I just want to get out there. Only another 10 months to wait till we hook up the van for a trial run.
We all have to spend money to become free wheelers , but the free camp you stay at dosn't come free some one had to pay for it in the first place and in some cases the on going up keep.
Whilst not wishing to disagree with anything said previously, we all seem to be scared of the so called local hoons.
I can still remember (just) back to my teens when the drinking age was 21 and as teenagers with our first cars we would go to local bush spots, in those days only 7 miles out of Bne and about a mile from home, and have a drink (two pot screamers) and generally stuff around. It was basically that or the drive-in.
We weren't out to commit murder and mayhem. I think for teens in most small towns it is quite possibly the same. If you are somewhere and the "kids" come in, introduce yourself, you might be surprised at their response. Sometimes they are as fascinated to hear of your travels as you may be to talk to them.
In most cases I think you'll find they are working kids letting off a bit of steam and not trying to annoy or bother anyone. Beats going to the pub, drinking and brawling. so what if they have a drink and sleep it off in their cars. That's what we do at happy hour only with a bit more comfort. Get to know them, (don't lecture them) it might just be the best security you can have.
What are the statistics of grey nomads being monstered by local hoons? Belligerence begets belligerence.
In my case I'vealways been more fearful of the more mature person (read "cranky old bugger")with drink in him and an axe to grind.
I love to meet the kids they often bring a refreshing view to things and they are the generation who'll be looking after us in our dotage. Let them see that we are not a close minded group of old narks, you may be surprised.
Cheers,
Jack
Spot on Jack, I have to agree 100% with you. I've been in some "interesting" situations or places at times and simply talked my way out of it with verbal and body language.
Regards
Denis
Interesting results Spida, thanks for posting that, how long does the poll last?
Loved Edith Falls, been there twice. Last time I was there there were a couple of places just outside the gate for long rigs, still had to pay the camping fee but had the use of facilities etc. Some big rigs would camp on the open area on the corner of the main highway and the road into the falls and just drive their vehicles down there for the day. Not sure if that is still allowed, did you notice any there on your way in or out ?????
The walk to the top to the little falls above Edith falls was great too.
-- Edited by Duh on Thursday 2nd of May 2013 12:41:57 PM
Read Yeoeleven's story about getting his Coaster ready - these are all young people helping him - (well Larry is 51) - - they have loaned him cars, worked on the Coaster, given him a home base, and he will tell you, become his good friends. Like Billeeeeeee and I he was pleasantly surprised at a "OzHop" battle, at the good behavior of the young people there.
My grandson had his 18th birthday party at a local showgrounds hall - most of the kids walked to the party, and home again. Those who came in cars, either slept in them or walked home, either to their own places or someone elses.
The local policeman commented to the Show Society secretary that he had thought with so many there, he had expected trouble, but was pleasantly surprised at how all there were just having fun!
I seem to be too early - some walks at the falls were closed also and no swimming in the top pools.
Thanks Spida, pity about the top falls, but always other times etc.
Did you notice anyone camped up at the corner of the entry road and main highway ?????