My local Shell servo at Dianella, Perth, has a limit of $50 on top of your fuel bill, but you need to use EFTPOS, not credit.
(I asked yesterday when refuelling).
PS: I mainly get cash out at Coles, Woolies or IGA.....
-- Edited by Duh on Thursday 18th of July 2013 03:56:47 PM
Chevy said
08:15 PM Jul 18, 2013
Left Carnarvon this morning for Gladstone Beach campground.
Just before Wooramel Roadhouse realised we had forgotten to get some cash for camp fees etc.
Filled up with Diesel only to be told No Cash Out Ever!
Their story is you need a special machine to be able to give cash out. We have never heard this before.
So Travellers beware make sure you hav some cash.
Cheers Chevy
Happywanderer said
08:36 PM Jul 18, 2013
Sounds like they were having you on.
Seems as good a reason as any not to have to lose all their cash. That would be their thinking.
milo said
08:39 PM Jul 18, 2013
sounds strange?? most places at least have efpos or what ever
Gerty Dancer said
08:51 PM Jul 18, 2013
I don't believe that story about needing a special machine, but technology can be slow to catch up in the bush, in some places you cant be sure they will accept a card at all!.
In any small town it can difficult to get cash out, even if you spend $100's. Carrying lotsa cash can have risks for nomads, but theres often an ATM of some kind in a small town. Using other ATM's than your own bank ATM is expensive but sometimes you have no choice.
Be prepared, make sure you have some cash always, enough for a tank of fuel.
PeterInSa said
08:57 PM Jul 18, 2013
Have come across a medium size town with no bank, no cash out in supermarket but they had an ATM in store. Purchased gear from a local business and they preferred me to use a credit card rather than pay cash.
Peter
ozjohn said
11:52 PM Jul 18, 2013
Card readers used in stores etc will usually accept credit and debit cards for payment. However the merchant must pay and extra annual fee to the Card Reader suppler i.e. the Bank, if they want to offer Cash payments. Quite a few businesses don't offer full Eftpos services or have a policy to only offer the cash out to customers spending 'X' amount of dollars per transaction or a $10 cash out minimum. Ozjohn.
Mark said
03:31 AM Jul 19, 2013
I believe the real reason for not giving cash out is their remote-ness and wanting to keep hold of as much cash as they can as the banks are a long way off. I also believe that they have an ATM and as they are remote (Like a few other places along that road, one of which I have worked at) they have to load the ATM up for the bank from the money that they take through the till, and then of course, they get the commission when people use the ATM which they don't get if they give you cash over the counter via the machine, it actually costs them money in transaction fees to give you cash. We owned a retail shop in Perth and we wouldn't do cash either, we had an ATM in the shop and the charges for giving cash are not free to the machine holder, every transaction costs the business.
You are right though, make sure you bring cash with you when you travel anywhere past Carnarvon, it's a long way to anywhere and you never know when you might need a bit of cash.
rockylizard said
03:47 AM Jul 19, 2013
Gday...
I carry $600 in cash - hidden in three different hidey places - two in van and one in Landy.
If I have to spend any (because of facility with no EFTPOS), I restore the balance when in the next big town - either through EFTPOS terminal at shop (cash out) or at an ATM that my bank has an agreement with so I don't get charged a fee.
Apart from that stash, I put EVERYTHING I can on my credit card - which is paid in full automatically each month from my bank account - because that attracts no transaction fees to me.
I began carrying cash when I used to go to Bathurst races each year. On that weekend, very few towns would do anything to we 'foreigners' without seeing the colour of our real money.
Cheers - John
herbie said
03:58 AM Jul 19, 2013
Always carry some cash at least for a tank full of fuel twice we have almost got caught regarding the use of card. On both occasions it was because there machine /cash register were out of action. So was only serving fuel if you had cash.And that.... was a very slow process due them writing it all in to a little black book
The other thing we learnt is when you get into really our back places fuel up almost every time you see a servo, as we got stranded in Tennant Creek once for a week.As the only servo there could not let anyone have more than $60 worth of fuel due to having only one pump working until they came out from Darwin to fix.
And getting stranded in Tennant Creek for a week to us didn't sound like the perfect place to be for a day let alone a week,but we went out to the beaut van park over the bridge and ended up having a wow of a time due to so many travellers in same position as we were in and we took the river cruise and the chopper flight over the area .so our fuel ended up costing us around $1000 extra,but well worth it.
The dog lady said
05:18 AM Jul 21, 2013
They either had no idea how to use their cash register, or they don't plan on banking their cash and declaring it to the ATO. Giving "cash-out" actually saves them having to make a trip to the bank so they should be happy to do it. Must admit I've never tried to get cash out on a credit card tho', I plan never to pay any interest on mine
Gerty Dancer said
04:32 PM Jul 21, 2013
herbie wrote:
And getting stranded in Tennant Creek for a week to us didn't sound like the perfect place to be for a day let alone a week,but we went out to the beaut van park over the bridge and ended up having a wow of a time due to so many travellers in same position as we were in and we took the river cruise and the chopper flight over the area .so our fuel ended up costing us around $1000 extra,but well worth it.
That just goes to show doesn't it, how much there is to see and experience in places where we don't expect much, and hurry through.
herbie said
08:42 PM Jul 21, 2013
Paroument Cruiser, I could say this happened to me in some place like Paradise,but no it happened to us and many other travellers at the same time. This was a few years back.
I do not understand why some people always must question what people post on here. Why be on it if you question everyones posts.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 09:49:08 PM
herbie said
10:01 PM Jul 21, 2013
Hi Mark, can understand why so many people get on here and post a few posts and then you never see them again.
Why would people make up things regarding stuff that happens to them along the journey.
Some people I guess are so caught up in their own importance to let other people good or bad know... what to be aware of out there.
We have had to learn some things the hard way,and looking back I only wish we had been given advice regarding some of the pitfalls along the way.
It would be horrible to get stuck some where out in the out back for some reason or another (re low on fuel..no cash out from ATM machine ) for what ever reason.
And as for who ever said about saving the business owner taking his/her money into the bank,that trip could take him two days to get there and back to his business.
So I doubt that would be good business..
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 10:03:02 PM
ParamountCruiser said
10:16 PM Jul 21, 2013
herbie wrote:
Paroument Cruiser, I could say this happened to me in some place like Paradise,but no it happened to us and many other travellers at the same time. This was a few years back.
I do not understand why some people always must question what people post on here. Why be on it if you question everyones posts.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 09:49:08 PM
Why I asked if you are sure you were in Tennant Creek is that I have never heard of a river cruise there.
Not doubting what happened to you at all, just where it was.
-- Edited by ParamountCruiser on Sunday 21st of July 2013 10:17:00 PM
Mark said
11:03 PM Jul 21, 2013
herbie wrote:
Hi Mark, can understand why so many people get on here and post a few posts and then you never see them again.
Why would people make up things regarding stuff that happens to them along the journey.
Some people I guess are so caught up in their own importance to let other people good or bad know... what to be aware of out there.
We have had to learn some things the hard way,and looking back I only wish we had been given advice regarding some of the pitfalls along the way.
It would be horrible to get stuck some where out in the out back for some reason or another (re low on fuel..no cash out from ATM machine ) for what ever reason.
And as for who ever said about saving the business owner taking his/her money into the bank,that trip could take him two days to get there and back to his business.
So I doubt that would be good business..
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 10:03:02 PM
You sure can can't you!! Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, have a great week. Cheers
Mark
-- Edited by Mark on Sunday 21st of July 2013 11:18:10 PM
ParamountCruiser said
12:14 AM Jul 22, 2013
herbie wrote:
And getting stranded in Tennant Creek for a week to us didn't sound like the perfect place to be for a day let alone a week,but we went out to the beaut van park over the bridge and ended up having a wow of a time due to so many travellers in same position as we were in and we took the river cruise and the chopper flight over the area.
Are you sure you were in Tennant Creek ?
Mark said
04:11 AM Jul 22, 2013
herbie wrote:
Paroument Cruiser, I could say this happened to me in tim buck two ,but no it happened to us and many other travellers at the same time. This was a few years back.
I do not understand why some people always must question what people post on here. Why be on it if you question everyones posts.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 08:44:22 PM
Totally agree Herbie.
I made my post earlier based upon actual facts. I worked in a remote facility that had an ATM, was 2.5 hours away from the nearest bank, and dealt with the transaction machine company on various issues whilst under my tenure. We cherished having the ATM to put the money into as it was a revenue stream, the EFTPOS machine COSTS the operator money to use, work it out for yourselves!!
I did not make my post based upon supposition, maybe's or anything else, it was based on fact.
For anybody that doesn't know where the Wooramel Roadhouse is, take a look on a map, it is not in a little town, it is out there on it's own like so many Road Houses in WA with a few cows and a lot of goats for company, and the odd farmer that arrives on a Sunday for a bit of brekkie and a chat. These Roadhouses provide a service, we may not like them or the rules that they employ, but they are there making life for the traveller a bit easier, especially in remote WA. I say, suck it up or don't stop at them, carry your own fuel and stop thinking that everywhere in Australia is like where it is at home.
Travel is an experience, experience something different!!
herbie said
04:51 AM Jul 22, 2013
Mark wrote:
herbie wrote:
Paroument Cruiser, I could say this happened to me in Tim buck two ,but no it happened to us and many other travellers at the same time. This was a few years back.
I do not understand why some people always must question what people post on here. Why be on it if you question everyones posts.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 08:44:22 PM
Totally agree Herbie.
I made my post earlier based upon actual facts. I worked in a remote facility that had an ATM, was 2.5 hours away from the nearest bank, and dealt with the transaction machine company on various issues whilst under my tenure. We cherished having the ATM to put the money into as it was a revenue stream, the EFTPOS machine COSTS the operator money to use, work it out for yourselves!!
I did not make my post based upon supposition, maybe's or anything else, it was based on fact.
For anybody that doesn't know where the Wooramel Roadhouse is, take a look on a map, it is not in a little town, it is out there on it's own like so many Road Houses in WA with a few cows and a lot of goats for company, and the odd farmer that arrives on a Sunday for a bit of brekkie and a chat. These Roadhouses provide a service, we may not like them or the rules that they employ, but they are there making life for the traveller a bit easier, especially in remote WA. I say, suck it up or don't stop at them, carry your own fuel and stop thinking that everywhere in Australia is like where it is at home.
Travel is an experience, experience something different!!
Beth54 said
01:47 AM Jul 23, 2013
I always make sure I carry enough cash, and like Rocky Lizard, top up in towns where there is a LARGE supermarket or ATM, preferably one of my bank so I don't get the fees. I don't have a credit card, so debit is the only way I go.
I say LARGE supermarket, because like those roadhouses, I know they don't keep a lot of cash on hand.
Herbie, having lived in Tennant Creek and Warrego in the early 80's, I can sympathise with you getting caught there. I was also wondering about the river cruise, but thought it may be at Mary Ann Dam. I don't disbelieve you, I just couldn't think of a river in the area.
Even though it was a horrible place to live, I was always fascinated with the landscape and those amazing hills.
My local Shell servo at Dianella, Perth, has a limit of $50 on top of your fuel bill, but you need to use EFTPOS, not credit.
(I asked yesterday when refuelling).
PS: I mainly get cash out at Coles, Woolies or IGA.....
-- Edited by Duh on Thursday 18th of July 2013 03:56:47 PM
Left Carnarvon this morning for Gladstone Beach campground.
Just before Wooramel Roadhouse realised we had forgotten to get some cash for camp fees etc.
Filled up with Diesel only to be told No Cash Out Ever!
Their story is you need a special machine to be able to give cash out. We have never heard this before.
So Travellers beware make sure you hav some cash.
Cheers Chevy
Seems as good a reason as any not to have to lose all their cash. That would be their thinking.
In any small town it can difficult to get cash out, even if you spend $100's. Carrying lotsa cash can have risks for nomads, but theres often an ATM of some kind in a small town. Using other ATM's than your own bank ATM is expensive but sometimes you have no choice.
Be prepared, make sure you have some cash always, enough for a tank of fuel.
Peter
Card readers used in stores etc will usually accept credit and debit cards for payment. However the merchant must pay and extra annual fee to the Card Reader suppler i.e. the Bank, if they want to offer Cash payments. Quite a few businesses don't offer full Eftpos services or have a policy to only offer the cash out to customers spending 'X' amount of dollars per transaction or a $10 cash out minimum.
Ozjohn.
I believe the real reason for not giving cash out is their remote-ness and wanting to keep hold of as much cash as they can as the banks are a long way off. I also believe that they have an ATM and as they are remote (Like a few other places along that road, one of which I have worked at) they have to load the ATM up for the bank from the money that they take through the till, and then of course, they get the commission when people use the ATM which they don't get if they give you cash over the counter via the machine, it actually costs them money in transaction fees to give you cash.
We owned a retail shop in Perth and we wouldn't do cash either, we had an ATM in the shop and the charges for giving cash are not free to the machine holder, every transaction costs the business.
You are right though, make sure you bring cash with you when you travel anywhere past Carnarvon, it's a long way to anywhere and you never know when you might need a bit of cash.
Gday...
I carry $600 in cash - hidden in three different hidey places - two in van and one in Landy.
If I have to spend any (because of facility with no EFTPOS), I restore the balance when in the next big town - either through EFTPOS terminal at shop (cash out) or at an ATM that my bank has an agreement with so I don't get charged a fee.
Apart from that stash, I put EVERYTHING I can on my credit card - which is paid in full automatically each month from my bank account - because that attracts no transaction fees to me.
I began carrying cash when I used to go to Bathurst races each year. On that weekend, very few towns would do anything to we 'foreigners' without seeing the colour of our real money.
Cheers - John
Always carry some cash at least for a tank full of fuel twice we have almost got caught regarding the use of card. On both occasions it was because there machine /cash register were out of action. So was only serving fuel if you had cash.And that.... was a very slow process due them writing it all in to a little black book
The other thing we learnt is when you get into really our back places fuel up almost every time you see a servo, as we got stranded in Tennant Creek once for a week.As the only servo there could not let anyone have more than $60 worth of fuel due to having only one pump working until they came out from Darwin to fix.
And getting stranded in Tennant Creek for a week to us didn't sound like the perfect place to be for a day let alone a week,but we went out to the beaut van park over the bridge and ended up having a wow of a time due to so many travellers in same position as we were in and we took the river cruise and the chopper flight over the area .so our fuel ended up costing us around $1000 extra,but well worth it.
They either had no idea how to use their cash register, or they don't plan on banking their cash and declaring it to the ATO. Giving "cash-out" actually saves them having to make a trip to the bank so they should be happy to do it. Must admit I've never tried to get cash out on a credit card tho', I plan never to pay any interest on mine
That just goes to show doesn't it, how much there is to see and experience in places where we don't expect much, and hurry through.
Paroument Cruiser, I could say this happened to me in some place like Paradise,but no it happened to us and many other travellers at the same time. This was a few years back.
I do not understand why some people always must question what people post on here. Why be on it if you question everyones posts.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July.
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 09:49:08 PM
Hi Mark, can understand why so many people get on here and post a few posts and then you never see them again.
Why would people make up things regarding stuff that happens to them along the journey.
Some people I guess are so caught up in their own importance to let other people good or bad know... what to be aware of out there.
We have had to learn some things the hard way,and looking back I only wish we had been given advice regarding some of the pitfalls along the way.
It would be horrible to get stuck some where out in the out back for some reason or another (re low on fuel..no cash out from ATM machine ) for what ever reason.
And as for who ever said about saving the business owner taking his/her money into the bank,that trip could take him two days to get there and back to his business.
So I doubt that would be good business..
-- Edited by herbie on Sunday 21st of July 2013 10:03:02 PM
Why I asked if you are sure you were in Tennant Creek is that I have never heard of a river cruise there.
Not doubting what happened to you at all, just where it was.
-- Edited by ParamountCruiser on Sunday 21st of July 2013 10:17:00 PM
You sure can can't you!!
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday, have a great week.
Cheers
Mark
-- Edited by Mark on Sunday 21st of July 2013 11:18:10 PM
Totally agree Herbie.
I made my post earlier based upon actual facts.
I worked in a remote facility that had an ATM, was 2.5 hours away from the nearest bank, and dealt with the transaction machine company on various issues whilst under my tenure.
We cherished having the ATM to put the money into as it was a revenue stream, the EFTPOS machine COSTS the operator money to use, work it out for yourselves!!
I did not make my post based upon supposition, maybe's or anything else, it was based on fact.
For anybody that doesn't know where the Wooramel Roadhouse is, take a look on a map, it is not in a little town, it is out there on it's own like so many Road Houses in WA with a few cows and a lot of goats for company, and the odd farmer that arrives on a Sunday for a bit of brekkie and a chat. These Roadhouses provide a service, we may not like them or the rules that they employ, but they are there making life for the traveller a bit easier, especially in remote WA. I say, suck it up or don't stop at them, carry your own fuel and stop thinking that everywhere in Australia is like where it is at home.
Travel is an experience, experience something different!!
I always make sure I carry enough cash, and like Rocky Lizard, top up in towns where there is a LARGE supermarket or ATM, preferably one of my bank so I don't get the fees. I don't have a credit card, so debit is the only way I go.
I say LARGE supermarket, because like those roadhouses, I know they don't keep a lot of cash on hand.
Herbie, having lived in Tennant Creek and Warrego in the early 80's, I can sympathise with you getting caught there. I was also wondering about the river cruise, but thought it may be at Mary Ann Dam.
I don't disbelieve you, I just couldn't think of a river in the area.
Even though it was a horrible place to live, I was always fascinated with the landscape and those amazing hills.