Hi all, just wondering if anybody has noticed the weight of gas swaps at bunnings seem to be lighter than when you have them refilled at a normal gas refilling station.
-- Edited by gitsho on Friday 11th of October 2013 09:54:32 AM
Dougwe said
05:02 PM Oct 11, 2013
All the swap and go types are under the weight Allan, i.e. 9kg will be around 8.?, they reckon it allows for gas expansion.
I try to fill up at BCF as they fill by hand with the valve open system and fill to the max. You can feel the difference too. There are other places that fill the same way. I must admit though I have changed over at Bunnings a few times but mainly to get a newer bottle with better expire date. I also find them to be reasonably priced for swap and go type.
Cupie said
05:06 PM Oct 11, 2013
Dougwe wrote:
All the swap and go types are under the weight Allan, i.e. 9kg will be around 8.?, they reckon it allows for gas expansion.
I try to fill up at BCF as they fill by hand with the valve open system and fill to the max. You can feel the difference too. There are other places that fill the same way. I must admit though I have changed over at Bunnings a few times but mainly to get a newer bottle with better expire date. I also find them to be reasonably priced for swap and go type.
Exactly my thoughts ...
brickies said
05:12 PM Oct 11, 2013
By law gas cylinders can only be filled to 80% of capacity to allow for expansion , Cylinders can be filled past this level which can be dangerous because of expansion cause by heat
hako said
05:48 PM Oct 11, 2013
If you read the label on the Swap & go bottles it says 8.5KG. The smaller bottles say net contents filled by weight 3.7KG
Recently at Bunnings, my bro-inlaw and I swapped 2 X 9KG bottles and then weighed them in the carpark with digital luggage scales - both weighed in at 9.0KG after subtracting the E.W. so we were happy with that.
JayDee said
08:11 PM Oct 11, 2013
We have only swapped our bottle once and that was because we could not find a gas refill and it was a matter of gas or no dinner. I do not like to swap my 3 year old bottle for the older one. May do so when they get close to use by date. Jay&Dee
-- Edited by JayDee on Friday 11th of October 2013 08:11:34 PM
hako said
04:24 AM Oct 12, 2013
JayDee wrote:
We have only swapped our bottle once and that was because we could not find a gas refill and it was a matter of gas or no dinner. I do not like to swap my 3 year old bottle for the older one. May do so when they get close to use by date. Jay&Dee
-- Edited by JayDee on Friday 11th of October 2013 08:11:34 PM
Bunnings or any of the thousands of places that have swap & go style exchanges do not require that the gas bottle you swap is within it's test date period, however all bottles that they give you will be well within the test date period. My experience has been that I generally receive new bottles and have even exchanged out of date cylinders that I've found at the dump.
I reckon the swap system is the go, and in a few years it will be all you can get especially out in the bush where insurance costs will kill the refilling of gas bottles.
Good Luck.
Bunkerbob said
04:53 AM Oct 12, 2013
At Esperance. Cost for a swap and go, 8.5kg is $22.00 (give or take a bit) which was the same as Melbourne in May this year. Or you can pay $38.00 at the local servo. Your wallet.
D and D said
05:07 AM Oct 12, 2013
Hako, I'd like to know where you are. Bunnings refused to accept an out of date bottle from me as did the swap a bottle at the local petrol station this time last year - maybe its a SA thing?
Tim thetruckie said
05:38 AM Oct 12, 2013
D and D wrote:
Hako, I'd like to know where you are. Bunnings refused to accept an out of date bottle from me as did the swap a bottle at the local petrol station this time last year - maybe its a SA thing?
I have swapped 5 out of date bottles at Bunnings Munna Parra np questions aske .
Dunmowin said
06:52 AM Oct 12, 2013
Bunkerbob wrote:
At Esperance. Cost for a swap and go, 8.5kg is $22.00 (give or take a bit) which was the same as Melbourne in May this year. Or you can pay $38.00 at the local servo. Your wallet.
Paid 27.95 at BBQ Galore in Esperance in April this year.
Cupie said
04:07 PM Oct 12, 2013
Bunnings at Kuraby in Brisbane never check the date on the bottles that I exchange.
hako said
08:57 PM Oct 12, 2013
Whilst I reckon Swap & Go is the way, BCF apparently think otherwise - probably with good reason. My neighbour suggests that by refilling the cylinders manually, the customer could browse the products in the store whilst waiting for the clerk to refill the bottle, so it's good for business. Probably right.
hako said
09:08 PM Oct 12, 2013
D and D wrote:
Hako, I'd like to know where you are. Bunnings refused to accept an out of date bottle from me as did the swap a bottle at the local petrol station this time last year - maybe its a SA thing?
Toowoomba - by the way, Wesfarmers own Bunnings and also own Kleenheat......Kleenheat own Kwik-Gas which is what you get at Bunnings.
Regards
Denis
Onedodger said
10:19 PM Oct 12, 2013
I do not use swap and go refills if I can get out of it.
We have 3 9kg bottles and all have been tested 2 years ago and certified and because of circumference issues when swapping I will keep them.
2 for the van and 1 for the barbie.
BCF and some other outlets refill the bottles correctly using the vent method.
I have even found in our wanderings the odd place that will weigh the bottles before and after filing charging accordingly.
Needless to say I tell others of this when in the area.
Dunmowin said
11:20 PM Oct 12, 2013
hako wrote:
Whilst I reckon Swap & Go is the way, BCF apparently think otherwise - probably with good reason. My neighbour suggests that by refilling the cylinders manually, the customer could browse the products in the store whilst waiting for the clerk to refill the bottle, so it's good for business. Probably right.
Nice logic, but we stand and watch our bottles being filled, just so we are happy that they have, infact, been filled.
poppymick said
02:18 AM Oct 13, 2013
although the gas bottles r little bit lighter they r cheaper at bunning onlt pay 18.00 for swap in stead of payin 36 at the garages
PeterInSa said
06:30 AM Oct 13, 2013
$18 ? Not in Adelaide for 8.5Kg
sandsmere said
10:26 PM Oct 13, 2013
We get ours refilled . Most hardware stores in bush towns fill them , and usually fill right up .
Don't know where this allow for expansion comes from . We have never had any trouble with full bottles .
brickies said
10:54 PM Oct 13, 2013
Filling LPG cylinders
Most retailers will swap over empty LPG cylinders for full ones. This ensures you receive a cylinder that is within the ten year certification and has been filled appropriately.
Never fill portable LPG cylinders from autogas dispensers - this is both illegal and dangerous. Autogas is a mixture of propane and butane. Australian LPG appliances are designed only for use with commercial LPG which is predominantly propane.
The maximum fill level for portable cylinders is 80%. This allows room for expansion should the cylinder experience an increase in temperature. The empty weight is stamped on the cylinder so the amount of gas left can be estimated by weight. Some cylinders have a contents gauge fitted.
Hi all, just wondering if anybody has noticed the weight of gas swaps at bunnings seem to be lighter than when you have them refilled at a normal gas refilling station.
-- Edited by gitsho on Friday 11th of October 2013 09:54:32 AM
I try to fill up at BCF as they fill by hand with the valve open system and fill to the max. You can feel the difference too. There are other places that fill the same way. I must admit though I have changed over at Bunnings a few times but mainly to get a newer bottle with better expire date. I also find them to be reasonably priced for swap and go type.
Exactly my thoughts ...
Recently at Bunnings, my bro-inlaw and I swapped 2 X 9KG bottles and then weighed them in the carpark with digital luggage scales - both weighed in at 9.0KG after subtracting the E.W. so we were happy with that.
We have only swapped our bottle once and that was because we could not find a gas refill and it was a matter of gas or no dinner.
I do not like to swap my 3 year old bottle for the older one. May do so when they get close to use by date.
Jay&Dee
-- Edited by JayDee on Friday 11th of October 2013 08:11:34 PM
Bunnings or any of the thousands of places that have swap & go style exchanges do not require that the gas bottle you swap is within it's test date period, however all bottles that they give you will be well within the test date period. My experience has been that I generally receive new bottles and have even exchanged out of date cylinders that I've found at the dump.
I reckon the swap system is the go, and in a few years it will be all you can get especially out in the bush where insurance costs will kill the refilling of gas bottles.
Good Luck.
I have swapped 5 out of date bottles at Bunnings Munna Parra np questions aske .
Paid 27.95 at BBQ Galore in Esperance in April this year.
Bunnings at Kuraby in Brisbane never check the date on the bottles that I exchange.
Toowoomba - by the way, Wesfarmers own Bunnings and also own Kleenheat......Kleenheat own Kwik-Gas which is what you get at Bunnings.
Regards
Denis
I do not use swap and go refills if I can get out of it.
We have 3 9kg bottles and all have been tested 2 years ago and certified and because of circumference issues when swapping I will keep them.
2 for the van and 1 for the barbie.
BCF and some other outlets refill the bottles correctly using the vent method.
I have even found in our wanderings the odd place that will weigh the bottles before and after filing charging accordingly.
Needless to say I tell others of this when in the area.
Nice logic, but we stand and watch our bottles being filled, just so we are happy that they have, infact, been filled.
We get ours refilled . Most hardware stores in bush towns fill them , and usually fill right up .
Don't know where this allow for expansion comes from . We have never had any trouble with full bottles .
Most retailers will swap over empty LPG cylinders for full ones. This ensures you receive a cylinder that is within the ten year certification and has been filled appropriately.
Never fill portable LPG cylinders from autogas dispensers - this is both illegal and dangerous. Autogas is a mixture of propane and butane. Australian LPG appliances are designed only for use with commercial LPG which is predominantly propane.
The maximum fill level for portable cylinders is 80%. This allows room for expansion should the cylinder experience an increase in temperature. The empty weight is stamped on the cylinder so the amount of gas left can be estimated by weight. Some cylinders have a contents gauge fitted.