i shop at coles as they give you points for every dollar you spend woolies dont
i trade my points using 1000 points for fuel and get 10 cents of my next fuel bill
as i shop at coles anyway the next time i shop it shows up that i have 14 cents or 18 cents of the next time i buy fuel mind you, you do need to spend $30 or more to redeem but it works very well for us we have saved a lot of money this way
when i shop next time i will get 18 cents of a litre
also we use it when we fill the nissan up and 2 jerry cans you can save up to over $15 which we have
when we went to adelaide and filled up at the coles servos they all commented that i had done my home work very well
Delta18 said
06:09 PM Oct 17, 2013
magraret wrote:
i shop at coles as they give you points for every dollar you spend woolies dont They do if you get the Everyday Rewards Card, also from their partners Dan Murphy etc.
i trade my points using 1000 points for fuel and get 10 cents of my next fuel bill
as i shop at coles anyway the next time i shop it shows up that i have 14 cents or 18 cents of the next time i buy fuel mind you, you do need to spend $30 or more to redeem but it works very well for us we have saved a lot of money this way
when i shop next time i will get 18 cents of a litre
also we use it when we fill the nissan up and 2 jerry cans you can save up to over $15 which we have
when we went to adelaide and filled up at the coles servos they all commented that i had done my home work very well
Had you shopped at IGA, Foodland etc your shopping bill probably would have been over $15 less anyway, they don't give anything away.
Unfortunately where I live we have no choice, Coles is the only supermarket in town. This will change soon though, a new Shoping Centre is commencing construction soon housing Woolies, hopefully IGA and many more stores.
barina said
06:38 PM Oct 17, 2013
johnno48 wrote:
Well why don't they do something about it!!! The ACCC is toothless & useless
They like Asic and most other watchdogs are useless
Wombat 280 said
08:06 PM Oct 17, 2013
While I see that competition is needed I recall the days before the retail shopping centers got into the fuel business and there was certainly no competitive pricing by independents then and there isn't any now either. Lets face we all have to shop for our weekly needs and as there are no truly independent food retailers then it makes sense to shop with the one giving you at least something back even if it is smoke and mirrors
brian said
08:23 PM Oct 17, 2013
I have to agree with Wombat, whether you shop at one of the big 2 or Aldi or IGA, your bill will come in pretty close at each for the same goods.
We have tried the exercise at Aldi, and find very little difference in pricing from our local Coles, but Coles has more variety and choice, and is certainly an easier place to shop.
So, all things being equal in that regard, I can trade 1000 flybuys for 10 cents off, or even regularly receive a 30 cent discount offer.
Filling up the landcruiser can save me up to $50 with the combined discounts.
No way would the other supermarkets match that even with heavily discounted prices.
I have yet to see the ACCC rushing to the aid of all of the small nurseries and hardware stores that have suffered at the hands of Bunnings predatory practices, so, other than having a more active lobby group, fail to see the difference here.
petengail said
08:52 PM Oct 17, 2013
brian wrote:
I have to agree with Wombat, whether you shop at one of the big 2 or Aldi or IGA, your bill will come in pretty close at each for the same goods.
We have tried the exercise at Aldi, and find very little difference in pricing from our local Coles, but Coles has more variety and choice, and is certainly an easier place to shop.
So, all things being equal in that regard, I can trade 1000 flybuys for 10 cents off, or even regularly receive a 30 cent discount offer.
Filling up the landcruiser can save me up to $50 with the combined discounts.
No way would the other supermarkets match that even with heavily discounted prices.
I have yet to see the ACCC rushing to the aid of all of the small nurseries and hardware stores that have suffered at the hands of Bunnings predatory practices, so, other than having a more active lobby group, fail to see the difference here.
Bunnings predatory practices are actually Coles predatory practices as Bunnings in owned by Coles
diesel said
09:11 PM Oct 17, 2013
petengail wrote:
Bunnings predatory practices are actually Coles predatory practices as Bunnings in owned by Coles
Not entirely correct.
Bunnings is a division of Wesfarmers, as is Coles, Officeworks, Target, Kmart, BI-LO, Vintage Cellars, 1st Choice Liquor Superstore & Liquorland.
diesel
brian said
09:53 PM Oct 17, 2013
diesel wrote:
petengail wrote:
Bunnings predatory practices are actually Coles predatory practices as Bunnings in owned by Coles
Not entirely correct.
Bunnings is a division of Wesfarmers, as is Coles, Officeworks, Target, Kmart, BI-LO, Vintage Cellars, 1st Choice Liquor Superstore & Liquorland.
diesel
That's why I used them as an example.
dazren said
10:22 PM Oct 17, 2013
brian wrote --- Not entirely correct.
Bunnings is a division of Wesfarmers, as is Coles, Officeworks, Target, Kmart, BI-LO, Vintage Cellars, 1st Choice Liquor Superstore & Liquorland.
Actually Diesel wrote that, not me, but no matter, we know what you mean.
Onedodger said
12:17 AM Oct 18, 2013
Well folks here in downtown Dubbo,
The price of fuel is one of the dearest in western NSW. We have both Coles & Woolworths plus a couple of independent fuel outlets.
Without coles/woollies our fuel would be much dearer.
We use the fuel dockets a lot as it helps with the budget.
As the 4wd holds over 100 ltrs the savings are worthwhile.
dazren said
01:36 AM Oct 18, 2013
As someone who as worked in the Fuel industry for many,many years, I do not blame anyone for saving money with the use of fuel dockets, As Onedodger and others have said ?? when your tug holds 100 litres the savings are to good to knock back,
But do not believe for one minute that they are doing any favours,, ?? over the last 5-6 years I have seen the Independent fuel delivery vehicles that we service drop dramatically And the amount of trucks that service the Coles / Woolies outlets have risen dramatically, Once they have worked out how to get rid of the Major Independents like Apco and Liberty, ?? Then it will be an all knew ball game, ?? and time to recoup All that money it has cost them, to initiate this INVESTMENT to take control of the Fuel distribution business
Then you will still have a choice where to get your Fuel ?? Coles. or Woolworths -- And they will compete against each other for you Business, And they will still offer Shopper dockets to entice you to one store or the other,, BUT they will be setting the sell price at what they agree on -- as there is NO Independents to keep the B--tards honest
As I have said before on this subject ?? It could finance my retirement ?? If I can just convince a couple of hundred people to buy there fuel through me // ?? and I will go on the daily market prices ?/ and give you a 8 cents per litre off for the next 2 years
however !! after that 2 year period, and the competition is gone ?? then you still must buy your fuel from me at a price I set However I will still give you the 8 cents per litre off !!
But now my selling price has gone from $1.50 per ltr -- to $2.60 per ltr ---- Hmmm!! don't like my price ??? Well you have a choice Go to Coles/ Woolies. but you will find that they are the same price as me, Ha Ha, and don't bother going to the Government for help ??? They already get the biggest slice of that $2.60 cents and they then get the Gst on the full $2.60, So they won't help you
So as I said Use the dockets for all there worth NOW while you can, as it is way to late to change anything, All we can hope for is we chose to stop towing our vans with our big fuel guzzling beasts, and buy a little fuel efficient VW polo or similar, to drive to the rivers and reminisce about ''remember when ''
neilnruth said
03:33 AM Oct 18, 2013
We had a 22c off docket the other day and saved $11 on a fill up. Best we've ever had and I needed the groceries I bought (including specials) anyway.
JayDee said
05:07 AM Oct 18, 2013
Ok, now2 look at this.
Back in 2003/4 Woolworths were offering 4 cents a litre of petrol at the pump price of somewhere between 60 and 70 cents. This equates to around 7.5% discount. Today with the price of petrol at $1.50 they are still offering in the main 4 cents a litre which equates to a discount of 3.75% ( I think)
So who is being conned. Yes you and I the customers are being taken for a ride.
Big F.....g deal Mr Woolworths and Mr Coles.
Time for the Accc or who ever to bring these guys to task.
jay&Dee
norto said
04:00 PM Oct 18, 2013
What a lot of CROCK
I work for a company the supplies to Coles Woolies and IGA and i visit all three every week.
Woolies and Coles seem to have similar prices, Woolies a bit cheaper.
Super IGA are probably 5% dearer and normal IGA 15% dearer.
The reason Independent servos are going broke is because they can't compete with the lower fuel prices.
Gerty Dancer said
04:22 PM Oct 18, 2013
Exactly Norto!!! But the independent servos don't have huge grocery chains whose profits make up the shortfall. When all the Independents are gone the Big 2 can charge whatever they like because there'll be no competition.
sandsmere said
09:48 PM Oct 18, 2013
We did a survey about 12 months ago after a happy hour discussion on this subject .
One person did shopping at Coles then the rest did a comparison of prices at Woolworths and IGA stores in the same area .
Some articles couldn't be matched so were left out . The rest were very close to the same thing .
The total bill compered was $209 at Coles . $ 205 at Woolies . $194 at IGA .
I know where I would rather shop . However , that was 12 months ago .
herbie said
10:58 PM Oct 18, 2013
If the ACCC has admitted that what we all have known for ever and a day that these shopper dockets are a Con!!!! I ask what this toothless tiger is going to do about it....Not A Lot I AM Guessing.
Santa said
01:42 AM Oct 19, 2013
Only this morning my mechanic warned me of the danger of using (low grade discounted diesel fuel) his words, in particular that supplied by W/worths and Coles, in his words "you will save a few dollars on a fill, but, in the long run you will be paying me a lot more in repair bills.
And, stay right away from bio fuels.
Waterbags said
02:53 AM Oct 19, 2013
Santa wrote:
Only this morning my mechanic warned me of the danger of using (low grade discounted diesel fuel) his words, in particular that supplied by W/worths and Coles, in his words "you will save a few dollars on a fill, but, in the long run you will be paying me a lot more in repair bills.
And, stay right away from bio fuels.
One needs to be extremely careful making unsubstantiated claims, such as these. The cost of fuel will have little bearing on the quality of fuel and I expect both those retailers mentioned would only be supplying their outlets with highest quality fuel.
One needs to check with the vehicle manufacturer (handbook) as to the suitability of Bio Fuels, most current diesel vehicle will recommend a maximum mix, such as, up to 10%
Santa said
03:23 AM Oct 19, 2013
Waterbags wrote:
Santa wrote:
Only this morning my mechanic warned me of the danger of using (low grade discounted diesel fuel) his words, in particular that supplied by W/worths and Coles, in his words "you will save a few dollars on a fill, but, in the long run you will be paying me a lot more in repair bills.
And, stay right away from bio fuels.
One needs to be extremely careful making unsubstantiated claims, such as these. The cost of fuel will have little bearing on the quality of fuel and I expect both those retailers mentioned would only be supplying their outlets with highest quality fuel.
One needs to check with the vehicle manufacturer (handbook) as to the suitability of Bio Fuels, most current diesel vehicle will recommend a maximum mix, such as, up to 10%
I made no claims, only repeated an opinion/warning passed on to me by a diesel mechanic.
Buy fuel from anyone you prefer, matters not one iota to me.
neilnruth said
05:47 AM Oct 19, 2013
Only problem is that in some towns the only supplier of fuel is the grocery store fuel supplier. The independents have gone. There is no choice.
Santa said
05:28 PM Oct 19, 2013
neilnruth wrote:
Only problem is that in some towns the only supplier of fuel is the grocery store fuel supplier. The independents have gone. There is no choice.
The general store type fuel suppliers are a no go for me, because of low turnover the risk of contamination and stale fuel is very real.
Most of use have sufficient fuel capacity to be able to plan ahead.
mr glassies said
10:53 PM Oct 20, 2013
bit ike every thing else in this so called lucky country
take the fire lighters for instance jail if there cought no matter what age
sorry people i believe in an eye for an eye
if 1 of my kids was cought lighting fires or breaking any other law they would never sit down let alone for a few weeks
dibs
Santa said
12:40 AM Oct 21, 2013
mr glassies wrote:
bit ike every thing else in this so called lucky country
take the fire lighters for instance jail if there cought no matter what age
sorry people i believe in an eye for an eye
if 1 of my kids was cought lighting fires or breaking any other law they would never sit down let alone for a few weeks
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/supermarket-fuel-dockets-a-con-says-accc-37931?WT.z_csource=Outbrain&WT.seg_4=Outbrain
Well why don't they do something about it!!! The ACCC is toothless & useless
Im speechless, A con,,,,,,,,,,,nooooooooo. Billeeeeeeee PS they woulde't do that to us,????? would they,?????...heheheheheh
i shop at coles as they give you points for every dollar you spend woolies dont
i trade my points using 1000 points for fuel and get 10 cents of my next fuel bill
as i shop at coles anyway the next time i shop it shows up that i have 14 cents or 18 cents of the next time i buy fuel mind you, you do need to spend $30 or more to redeem but it works very well for us we have saved a lot of money this way
when i shop next time i will get 18 cents of a litre
also we use it when we fill the nissan up and 2 jerry cans you can save up to over $15 which we have
when we went to adelaide and filled up at the coles servos they all commented that i had done my home work very well
Had you shopped at IGA, Foodland etc your shopping bill probably would have been over $15 less anyway, they don't give anything away.
Unfortunately where I live we have no choice, Coles is the only supermarket in town. This will change soon though, a new Shoping Centre is commencing construction soon housing Woolies, hopefully IGA and many more stores.
They like Asic and most other watchdogs are useless
I have to agree with Wombat, whether you shop at one of the big 2 or Aldi or IGA, your bill will come in pretty close at each for the same goods.
We have tried the exercise at Aldi, and find very little difference in pricing from our local Coles, but Coles has more variety and choice, and is certainly an easier place to shop.
So, all things being equal in that regard, I can trade 1000 flybuys for 10 cents off, or even regularly receive a 30 cent discount offer.
Filling up the landcruiser can save me up to $50 with the combined discounts.
No way would the other supermarkets match that even with heavily discounted prices.
I have yet to see the ACCC rushing to the aid of all of the small nurseries and hardware stores that have suffered at the hands of Bunnings predatory practices, so, other than having a more active lobby group, fail to see the difference here.
Bunnings predatory practices are actually Coles predatory practices as Bunnings in owned by Coles
Not entirely correct.
Bunnings is a division of Wesfarmers, as is Coles, Officeworks, Target, Kmart, BI-LO, Vintage Cellars, 1st Choice Liquor Superstore & Liquorland.
diesel
That's why I used them as an example.
brian wrote --- Not entirely correct.
Bunnings is a division of Wesfarmers, as is Coles, Officeworks, Target, Kmart, BI-LO, Vintage Cellars, 1st Choice Liquor Superstore & Liquorland.
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Ahh !! That's Ok then ?? As Wesfarmers Would never allow Predatory pricing would they ??
Gday...
This are interesting graphs ... showing the price of Petrol, CPI, AWOTE (Average Weekly & Overtime Earnings) and Motor vehicles sales.
and monthly average pump price and 'Singapore' price - on what our fuel price is based.
I guess we are not that bad off. Guess it is whether you are earning above or above AWOTE and your general position.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 17th of October 2013 10:31:29 PM
Actually Diesel wrote that, not me, but no matter, we know what you mean.
Well folks here in downtown Dubbo,
The price of fuel is one of the dearest in western NSW. We have both Coles & Woolworths plus a couple of independent fuel outlets.
Without coles/woollies our fuel would be much dearer.
We use the fuel dockets a lot as it helps with the budget.
As the 4wd holds over 100 ltrs the savings are worthwhile.
As someone who as worked in the Fuel industry for many,many years, I do not blame anyone for saving money with the use of fuel dockets, As Onedodger and others have said ?? when your tug holds 100 litres the savings are to good to knock back,
But do not believe for one minute that they are doing any favours,, ?? over the last 5-6 years I have seen the Independent fuel delivery vehicles that we service drop dramatically And the amount of trucks that service the Coles / Woolies outlets have risen dramatically, Once they have worked out how to get rid of the Major Independents like Apco and Liberty, ?? Then it will be an all knew ball game, ?? and time to recoup All that money it has cost them, to initiate this INVESTMENT to take control of the Fuel distribution business
Then you will still have a choice where to get your Fuel ?? Coles. or Woolworths -- And they will compete against each other for you Business, And they will still offer Shopper dockets to entice you to one store or the other,, BUT they will be setting the sell price at what they agree on -- as there is NO Independents to keep the B--tards honest
As I have said before on this subject ?? It could finance my retirement ?? If I can just convince a couple of hundred people to buy there fuel through me // ?? and I will go on the daily market prices ?/ and give you a 8 cents per litre off for the next 2 years
however !! after that 2 year period, and the competition is gone ?? then you still must buy your fuel from me at a price I set However I will still give you the 8 cents per litre off !!
But now my selling price has gone from $1.50 per ltr -- to $2.60 per ltr ---- Hmmm!! don't like my price ??? Well you have a choice Go to Coles/ Woolies. but you will find that they are the same price as me, Ha Ha, and don't bother going to the Government for help ??? They already get the biggest slice of that $2.60 cents and they then get the Gst on the full $2.60, So they won't help you
So as I said Use the dockets for all there worth NOW while you can, as it is way to late to change anything, All we can hope for is we chose to stop towing our vans with our big fuel guzzling beasts, and buy a little fuel efficient VW polo or similar, to drive to the rivers and reminisce about ''remember when ''
Ok, now2 look at this.
Back in 2003/4 Woolworths were offering 4 cents a litre of petrol at the pump price of somewhere between 60 and 70 cents. This equates to around 7.5% discount. Today with the price of petrol at $1.50 they are still offering in the main 4 cents a litre which equates to a discount of 3.75% ( I think)
So who is being conned. Yes you and I the customers are being taken for a ride.
Big F.....g deal Mr Woolworths and Mr Coles.
Time for the Accc or who ever to bring these guys to task.
jay&Dee
I work for a company the supplies to Coles Woolies and IGA and i visit all three every week.
Woolies and Coles seem to have similar prices, Woolies a bit cheaper.
Super IGA are probably 5% dearer and normal IGA 15% dearer.
The reason Independent servos are going broke is because they can't compete with the lower fuel prices.
We did a survey about 12 months ago after a happy hour discussion on this subject .
One person did shopping at Coles then the rest did a comparison of prices at Woolworths and IGA stores in the same area .
Some articles couldn't be matched so were left out . The rest were very close to the same thing .
The total bill compered was $209 at Coles . $ 205 at Woolies . $194 at IGA .
I know where I would rather shop . However , that was 12 months ago .
If the ACCC has admitted that what we all have known for ever and a day that these shopper dockets are a Con!!!! I ask what this toothless tiger is going to do about it....Not A Lot I AM Guessing.
Only this morning my mechanic warned me of the danger of using (low grade discounted diesel fuel) his words, in particular that supplied by W/worths and Coles, in his words "you will save a few dollars on a fill, but, in the long run you will be paying me a lot more in repair bills.
And, stay right away from bio fuels.
One needs to be extremely careful making unsubstantiated claims, such as these. The cost of fuel will have little bearing on the quality of fuel and I expect both those retailers mentioned would only be supplying their outlets with highest quality fuel.
One needs to check with the vehicle manufacturer (handbook) as to the suitability of Bio Fuels, most current diesel vehicle will recommend a maximum mix, such as, up to 10%
I made no claims, only repeated an opinion/warning passed on to me by a diesel mechanic.
Buy fuel from anyone you prefer, matters not one iota to me.
The general store type fuel suppliers are a no go for me, because of low turnover the risk of contamination and stale fuel is very real.
Most of use have sufficient fuel capacity to be able to plan ahead.
take the fire lighters for instance jail if there cought no matter what age
sorry people i believe in an eye for an eye
if 1 of my kids was cought lighting fires or breaking any other law they would never sit down let alone for a few weeks
dibs
Not sure what this has to do with fuel dockets.