If they cant get these fees from the people who use these places they will only get it off us some other way,so maybe best to let the people who want to use these 100 sites inside these parks PAY. Some of these sites I read are going from around $37 to $59 per night,If they can hike these frees up that much in one go,then next I guess the caravan parks will follow suit.
This is not just happening in Victoria,Tassie is heading down the same path.
CP in Albany South of Perth in WA is charging $40 per night for two people for a powered site.
Caravan parks, will be over flowing due to these increases.$40 a better option with power than $59 with maybe if you can stand the stench of a drop toilet in some of these N/Parks ...and no power.
-- Edited by herbie on Thursday 24th of October 2013 04:34:29 PM
Santa said
06:21 PM Oct 24, 2013
Another reason not to cross the border into Victoria, heaven knows, there are plenty more.
bill12 said
06:41 PM Oct 24, 2013
They are still $5.50 in QLD, and similar in NSW. Ithink park fees are free for senior card holders in NSW.I don,t mind "user pays" but you have to be reasonable, not just a money grab.Besides, Cambell Newman has sacked 14000 public servants,in Qld, inc park staff, so chances are you will never see them.Its ridiculous how govt work, sometimes, but we voted them in. Bill
Ya can talk to that site until ya blue in the face (or is that blue in the fingers () ... it is the Govt not the Dept that is pushing for fees and the Govt will not change their mind - despite an election looming next year.
Government don't want to "carry" free-loading tourists any more. All the blame of that previous Labor Govt apparently, so they say
cheers - John
freehazzas said
08:48 PM Oct 24, 2013
Just dont go there. Simple.
herbie said
10:43 PM Oct 24, 2013
If they cant get these frees from the people who use these places they will only get it off us some other way,so maybe best to let the people who want to use these 100 sites inside these parks PAY. Some of these sites I read are going from around $37 to $59 per night,If they can hike these frees up that much in one go,then next I guess the caravan parks will follow suit.
This is not just happening in Victoria,Tassie is heading down the same path.
JRH said
10:48 PM Oct 24, 2013
herbie wrote:
If they cant get these frees from the people who use these places they will only get it off us some other way,so maybe best to let the people who want to use these 100 sites inside these parks PAY. Some of these sites I read are going from around $37 to $59 per night,If they can hike these frees up that much in one go,then next I guess the caravan parks will follow suit.
This is not just happening in Victoria,Tassie is heading down the same path.
CP in Albany South of Perth in WA is charging $40 per night for two people for a powered site.
Roving-Dutchy said
01:02 AM Oct 25, 2013
OK maybe the price to camp in the National parks is going to be too high in Victoria but why should the taxpayer pick up the bill for the few, why should it be free when in many parks they supply showers and toilets someone has to pay to clean and maintain same.
Last week called in to have a look at the Diamond Head campground in the Crowdy Bay National Park in NSW it was $10 per adult per night plus $7 entry fee, for this you get flush toilets and cold showers but a beautiful spot right on the beach, while back in the town it was $32 per night for a powered site and hot showers etc again a beautiful spot right on the beach so if comparing prices the National park is too pricey for what is provided, but I do believe there should be some charges made for camping in National Parks.
Cheers
David
countryroad said
03:58 AM Oct 25, 2013
Which National Parks are we taking about....if it's the million dollar ocean view, I wouldn't be paying $37 so if it goes up to $59 well I still won't be there. Must be top of the range.
Seems there's lots more touring around happy to pay, can't charge more than the market will pay.
They'd have egg on their faces if the camp sites were empty. Some might say would keep the riff raff away.
rockylizard said
04:04 AM Oct 25, 2013
countryroad wrote:
Which National Parks are we taking about....if it's the million dollar ocean view, I wouldn't be paying $37 so if it goes up to $59 well I still won't be there. Must be top of the range.
Seems there's lots more touring around happy to pay, can't charge more than the market will pay.
They'd have egg on their faces if the camp sites were empty. Some might say would keep the riff raff away.
Gday...
The camping ground is at Tidal River campground at Wilson's Prom in Victoria - current price is $39/night per site for 4 people ... going up to $59/night per site.
This campground is EXTREMELY popular almost all year ... bookings required. And at Easter/Christmas etc it is put your name in and wait for the ballot.
However, it is all the National Parks in Victoria that will be affected - from $0 to $19.50 and from $19.50 to $23.00 ... these fees are for groups of 4 or 6 ... which is not too bad, but not attractive if you are a solo or couple.
Cheers - John
countryroad said
04:28 AM Oct 25, 2013
I think there should be some charges for the NP...the devil is in how much is fair. Now I'm a senior and getting some pension can I get a discount in the National Parks ?
Robyn
Golddetectornomad said
06:45 AM Oct 25, 2013
I'm a prospector and regularly stay in the Victorian State Forrests' in the Golden Triangle and elsewhere......magnificent camping/ Van sites albeit without facilities.....never paid a cent in last three years.....never been approached by anyone including Park Rangers....I have witnessed groups of say half dozen vans or more, regularly round their centre camp fire in The Argyle State Forrest near 'Dirty Womens' Gully' at Heathcote for long weekends and longer....no fees, no bother from anyone.....reasonable access, quiet treed surrounds with Billabong nearby........plus I know of many more great free sites I come across during my prospecting.....having lived in all States including S.A. which gives you very little for nothing... rather than give Victoria a miss I believe we are well served/catered for, with the State Forrest tracks well maintained with many sign posted.......many thousands of acres available in Victoria...try going to Mt. Crawford State Forrest in S.A. for example without paying fees and constant attention by Rangers with entry gates etc...yuk!..never seen an entry gate to the State Forrests I stay in in Victoria to date....the country towns in the Golden Triangle actually realize and value how much the prospector/fossicker dollar means to them and actually are very receptive and friendly.....S.A. are qseudo greenies and many of their towns miss out as the Govt does nothing to recognize prospectors and actively discourages them...just another point of view to give balance to this discussion from my own experiences.. If you want amenities rather than blissful Forrest peace and quiet with much animal life, then I guess user pays....Hoo Roo
-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Friday 25th of October 2013 06:51:13 AM
whiteman said
07:06 AM Oct 25, 2013
Judging from a number of responses some folk have way too much money..........looks like many more free campers along the way me thinks.
Saw a bit of TV during the week where a segment claimed that Victoria had reached the No1 position for Tourism in Oz, well if the planned increases proceed they will surely need to return the trophy......and I thought that only Qld & NSW were broke, silly me !!
sherbert said
03:44 PM Oct 25, 2013
I have sent my objection , not because i stay in them ( unable to with a dog ) but for the excessive amount they have increased the fees . Soon families will not be able to afford to have holiday's in National parks or caravan parks . Surely there are other ways to save money the Government need to look at their own expenditure .
Dougwe said
03:58 PM Oct 25, 2013
Re the Ballot for the Prom,
You do go into a ballot for Xmas and Easter but what I find strange is, most of the time the same people get the same spots each year. It's the same thing down along the beach from Dromana - Rye on the Mornington Peninsula, Vic. In fact the latter will be starting to get a few arrivals in a few weeks setting up in readiness.
_wombat_ said
04:11 PM Oct 25, 2013
Dougwe wrote:
Re the Ballot for the Prom,
You do go into a ballot for Xmas and Easter but what I find strange is, most of the time the same people get the same spots each year. It's the same thing down along the beach from Dromana - Rye on the Mornington Peninsula, Vic. In fact the latter will be starting to get a few arrivals in a few weeks setting up in readiness.
Yes Dougwe, they setup early then go home/back to work until their Christmas holidays arrive, then they already have their spot
herbie said
06:23 PM Oct 25, 2013
whiteman wrote:
Judging from a number of responses some folk have way too much money..........looks like many more free campers along the way me thinks.
Saw a bit of TV during the week where a segment claimed that Victoria had reached the No1 position for Tourism in Oz, well if the planned increases proceed they will surely need to return the trophy......and I thought that only Qld & NSW were broke, silly me !!
You better add Tassie to your list of broke states....Funny thing is about when we hear about states or territories being broke we never see Canberra on the list.
herbie said
06:30 PM Oct 25, 2013
Dougwe wrote:
Re the Ballot for the Prom,
You do go into a ballot for Xmas and Easter but what I find strange is, most of the time the same people get the same spots each year. It's the same thing down along the beach from Dromana - Rye on the Mornington Peninsula, Vic. In fact the latter will be starting to get a few arrivals in a few weeks setting up in readiness.
Wonder if these same people who have been lucky enough year after year to just happen to get drawn out of this secret ballot box ,will still be going there if these new fees come in to force.
http://www.standard.net.au/story/1861169/camping-fees-rise-to-fills-parks-black-hole/?cs=72
-- Edited by herbie on Thursday 24th of October 2013 04:34:29 PM
Already talked about yesterday in Digress.
www.depi.vic.gov.au/forestry-and-land-use/visiting-parks-and-forests/national-parks-camping-and-accommodation-fees
Perhaps so, however the subject title "Cash Grab" http://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t55333287/cash-grab/ gives no clue as to the subject matter.
Gday...
Ya can talk to that site until ya blue in the face (or is that blue in the fingers (
) ... it is the Govt not the Dept that is pushing for fees and the Govt will not change their mind - despite an election looming next year.
Government don't want to "carry" free-loading tourists any more. All the blame of that previous Labor Govt apparently, so they say
cheers - John
If they cant get these frees from the people who use these places they will only get it off us some other way,so maybe best to let the people who want to use these 100 sites inside these parks PAY. Some of these sites I read are going from around $37 to $59 per night,If they can hike these frees up that much in one go,then next I guess the caravan parks will follow suit.
This is not just happening in Victoria,Tassie is heading down the same path.
CP in Albany South of Perth in WA is charging $40 per night for two people for a powered site.
OK maybe the price to camp in the National parks is going to be too high in Victoria but why should the taxpayer pick up the bill for the few, why should it be free when in many parks they supply showers and toilets someone has to pay to clean and maintain same.
Last week called in to have a look at the Diamond Head campground in the Crowdy Bay National Park in NSW it was $10 per adult per night plus $7 entry fee, for this you get flush toilets and cold showers but a beautiful spot right on the beach, while back in the town it was $32 per night for a powered site and hot showers etc again a beautiful spot right on the beach so if comparing prices the National park is too pricey for what is provided, but I do believe there should be some charges made for camping in National Parks.
Cheers
David
Seems there's lots more touring around happy to pay, can't charge more than the market will pay.
They'd have egg on their faces if the camp sites were empty. Some might say would keep the riff raff away.
Gday...
The camping ground is at Tidal River campground at Wilson's Prom in Victoria - current price is $39/night per site for 4 people ... going up to $59/night per site.
This campground is EXTREMELY popular almost all year ... bookings required. And at Easter/Christmas etc it is put your name in and wait for the ballot.
However, it is all the National Parks in Victoria that will be affected - from $0 to $19.50 and from $19.50 to $23.00 ... these fees are for groups of 4 or 6 ... which is not too bad, but not attractive if you are a solo or couple.
Cheers - John
Robyn
I'm a prospector and regularly stay in the Victorian State Forrests' in the Golden Triangle and elsewhere......magnificent camping/ Van sites albeit without facilities.....never paid a cent in last three years.....never been approached by anyone including Park Rangers....I have witnessed groups of say half dozen vans or more, regularly round their centre camp fire in The Argyle State Forrest near 'Dirty Womens' Gully' at Heathcote for long weekends and longer....no fees, no bother from anyone.....reasonable access, quiet treed surrounds with Billabong nearby........plus I know of many more great free sites I come across during my prospecting.....having lived in all States including S.A. which gives you very little for nothing... rather than give Victoria a miss I believe we are well served/catered for, with the State Forrest tracks well maintained with many sign posted.......many thousands of acres available in Victoria...try going to Mt. Crawford State Forrest in S.A. for example without paying fees and constant attention by Rangers with entry gates etc...yuk!..never seen an entry gate to the State Forrests I stay in in Victoria to date....the country towns in the Golden Triangle actually realize and value how much the prospector/fossicker dollar means to them and actually are very receptive and friendly.....S.A. are qseudo greenies and many of their towns miss out as the Govt does nothing to recognize prospectors and actively discourages them...just another point of view to give balance to this discussion from my own experiences..
If you want amenities rather than blissful Forrest peace and quiet with much animal life, then I guess user pays....Hoo Roo
-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Friday 25th of October 2013 06:51:13 AM
Judging from a number of responses some folk have way too much money..........looks like many more free campers along the way me thinks.
Saw a bit of TV during the week where a segment claimed that Victoria had reached the No1 position for Tourism in Oz, well if the planned increases proceed they will surely need to return the trophy......and I thought that only Qld & NSW were broke, silly me !!
You do go into a ballot for Xmas and Easter but what I find strange is, most of the time the same people get the same spots each year. It's the same thing down along the beach from Dromana - Rye on the Mornington Peninsula, Vic. In fact the latter will be starting to get a few arrivals in a few weeks setting up in readiness.
Yes Dougwe, they setup early then go home/back to work until their Christmas holidays arrive, then they already have their spot
You better add Tassie to your list of broke states....Funny thing is about when we hear about states or territories being broke we never see Canberra on the list.
Wonder if these same people who have been lucky enough year after year to just happen to get drawn out of this secret ballot box ,will still be going there if these new fees come in to force.