Greetings all. I am inquiring as to whether it is the norm for van manufacturers to just drill a hole and run water/waste hoses willy nilly through under sink cupboards there fore making it hard to place things in them as per photos of our Coromal Excel 457 van
I am wondering what other folk have done about this situation
Would also like some feed back as to the best way to move firstly the water tank hose and secondly the mains pressure hose from inside the longitudinal beam (as they both currently are) to out side this beam so as to allow me to move the hoses closer to the wall
I would call that poor workmanship and a lack of thought to the installation.
Pull them out - redrill where you want them - reconnect - seal it all back up again.
Alternately take it to a caravan repairer and have them do it as it doesn't seem a major costly exercise.
Cheers
Vince
macka17 said
05:19 PM Oct 25, 2016
They ALL just drill through floor. Just some tidier than others.
Mine as yours plus another line from pump (sitting on floor) to rear tank
and HWS pipes to sink too.
Coromal seem extra untidy, Mine is compared to prev Roadstars
Check on pipe lengths and dia for joiners. B4 you start.
then just blank over old holes and forget.
It's a caravan.
A box trailer with fittings.
Some more exxy than others.
Enjoy it.
Hey Jim said
10:03 PM Oct 25, 2016
geoffc wrote:
Greetings all. I am inquiring as to whether it is the norm for van manufacturers to just drill a hole and run water/waste hoses willy nilly through under sink cupboards there fore making it hard to place things in them as per photos of our Coromal Excel 457 van
I am wondering what other folk have done about this situation
Would also like some feed back as to the best way to move firstly the water tank hose and secondly the mains pressure hose from inside the longitudinal beam (as they both currently are) to out side this beam so as to allow me to move the hoses closer to the wall
thanks in anticipation
Geoffc
Hi Geoffc,
How dare you steal my Photos of my Jayco Junko. Come to think of it. On second look, My photo's are better then yours.
Kindy kids could a better job, with one eye closed.
My gas pipe to the Stove (used) to run smack in the middle of the cuboard below. These blokes could not give a rats ass how or where they run things.Out of sight, and pretty as the picture. I lived, and learned this time.
vince56 said
08:07 AM Oct 26, 2016
Very poor workmanship, it would have taken hardly any extra time or effort to bunch those hoses together in the corner in the first place.
Makes you wonder what else is hidden......
I hope Coromal know about this as I would be very surprised if senior people in the organization would be aware of this shoddy practice.
Low paid contractors putting them together perhaps???
Cheers Vince
Treecrest14 said
03:47 PM Oct 26, 2016
I've had a Jayco and a Coromal - both have had similar issues with pipework. The Jayco had not one circlip on any of the 'John Guest" joiners (blue pipe in your photos). These circlips stop the pipe from pulling out of the joiner!
When I put in a grey water tank, I had to also install S traps under the sink and wash basin - to stop any chance of smell coming out of the tank.
Dhutime said
04:53 PM Oct 26, 2016
Maybe time for "undercover Boss " ? To sort these things out. Not user freindly that's for shore
-- Edited by Dhutime on Wednesday 26th of October 2016 04:54:09 PM
Bruce and Bev said
10:50 PM Oct 27, 2016
We have had a Jayco and currently a Supreme (supposed to be better quality than Jayco - dearer in price). Both have hot/cold pipes running right through the middle of cupboards etc - most buyers don't take notice of these poor quality works when they buy - vans are only pretty on the surface - ugly and broken underneath
Warren-Pat_01 said
11:04 AM Nov 3, 2016
Unfortunately (or fortunately for us "poor people") both Jayco & Coromal build to a price. so the pipes are placed where it is convenient for the builders.
Has anyone crawled underneath & discovered how many screws have missed what they were supposed to be attaching (eg floor to chassis cross member, etc)?
I haven't checked where the Discovery's pipes go yet but our Eagle's pipes went just in front of a mudguard do the disruption was minimal.
At least Jaycos & some Coromals are built here. I heard recently that some vans are built in China, disassembled & packed into a container, shipped to Australia, reassembled & marked "Built in Australia". How many times can a crew hole be reused without some looseness being a factor?
Warren
PS - I don't know if this is true but I heard a tale recently where a truckie visited the Jayco factory to pick up a XYZ van at 8am. He was shown a chassis & wheels & told to return at lunch time. He did & the van was ready to be picked up!
Muddy said
01:51 PM Nov 23, 2016
Warren-Pat_01 wrote:
Unfortunately (or fortunately for us "poor people") both Jayco & Coromal build to a price. so the pipes are placed where it is convenient for the builders. Has anyone crawled underneath & discovered how many screws have missed what they were supposed to be attaching (eg floor to chassis cross member, etc)?
I haven't checked where the Discovery's pipes go yet but our Eagle's pipes went just in front of a mudguard do the disruption was minimal.
At least Jaycos & some Coromals are built here. I heard recently that some vans are built in China, disassembled & packed into a container, shipped to Australia, reassembled & marked "Built in Australia". How many times can a crew hole be reused without some looseness being a factor?
Warren PS - I don't know if this is true but I heard a tale recently where a truckie visited the Jayco factory to pick up a XYZ van at 8am. He was shown a chassis & wheels & told to return at lunch time. He did & the van was ready to be picked up!
Unfortunately, for the critics, untrue and certainly not possible. at least 3-4 weeks from start to finish. Jayco are happy to entertain you on factory tours and this story would be viral if it were the case.
iana said
08:33 PM Nov 24, 2016
One reason the hoses and pipes are like that, is to run on the inside of the chassis beam. OK so a few 90' fittings could tidy it up, but thats for the owners to do, the installers haven't the time.
Greetings all. I am inquiring as to whether it is the norm for van manufacturers to just drill a hole and run water/waste hoses willy nilly through under sink cupboards there fore making it hard to place things in them as per photos of our Coromal Excel 457 van
I am wondering what other folk have done about this situation
Would also like some feed back as to the best way to move firstly the water tank hose and secondly the mains pressure hose from inside the longitudinal beam (as they both currently are) to out side this beam so as to allow me to move the hoses closer to the wall
thanks in anticipation
Geoffc
Pull them out - redrill where you want them - reconnect - seal it all back up again.
Alternately take it to a caravan repairer and have them do it as it doesn't seem a major costly exercise.
Cheers
Vince
Mine as yours plus another line from pump (sitting on floor) to rear tank
and HWS pipes to sink too.
Coromal seem extra untidy, Mine is compared to prev Roadstars
Check on pipe lengths and dia for joiners. B4 you start.
then just blank over old holes and forget.
It's a caravan.
A box trailer with fittings.
Some more exxy than others.
Enjoy it.
Hi Geoffc,
How dare you steal my Photos of my Jayco Junko. Come to think of it. On second look, My photo's are better then yours.
Kindy kids could a better job, with one eye closed.
My gas pipe to the Stove (used) to run smack in the middle of the cuboard below. These blokes could not give a rats ass how or where they run things.Out of sight, and pretty as the picture. I lived, and learned this time.
Makes you wonder what else is hidden......
I hope Coromal know about this as I would be very surprised if senior people in the organization would be aware of this shoddy practice.
Low paid contractors putting them together perhaps???
Cheers Vince
When I put in a grey water tank, I had to also install S traps under the sink and wash basin - to stop any chance of smell coming out of the tank.
Maybe time for "undercover Boss " ? To sort these things out.
Not user freindly that's for shore
-- Edited by Dhutime on Wednesday 26th of October 2016 04:54:09 PM
Has anyone crawled underneath & discovered how many screws have missed what they were supposed to be attaching (eg floor to chassis cross member, etc)?
I haven't checked where the Discovery's pipes go yet but our Eagle's pipes went just in front of a mudguard do the disruption was minimal.
At least Jaycos & some Coromals are built here. I heard recently that some vans are built in China, disassembled & packed into a container, shipped to Australia, reassembled & marked "Built in Australia". How many times can a crew hole be reused without some looseness being a factor?
Warren
PS - I don't know if this is true but I heard a tale recently where a truckie visited the Jayco factory to pick up a XYZ van at 8am. He was shown a chassis & wheels & told to return at lunch time. He did & the van was ready to be picked up!
Unfortunately, for the critics, untrue and certainly not possible. at least 3-4 weeks from start to finish. Jayco are happy to entertain you on factory tours and this story would be viral if it were the case.