G'day!

As a result of my enquiries through GN, I wrote to the maker of the above "miracle machine".

I stated that my contacting several persons who had purchased the above "magic machine", and they all said that it was/is bloody useless!

But, to allow them the right of reply, I asked if they would furnish me with some names of satisfied customers, so I could ask more questions about their product.

So far, no reply!? Surprise!

Regards.

Pipes.

Hi. I did the same thing with a solar generator a month ago. Still no reply. Bought an nverter instead. Col P

Hello pipes

I did read many years ago in a RAC magazine about fuel saving devises

They basically claimed that they did not work as good as the manufacturers claimed
They also did not say that they did not work

They pointed out that when you purchase a fuel saving devise, there is normally a sheet with a few tips such as
Do not speed up to the traffic lights, and then slam the anchors on
Do not spin the wheels when taking off from the traffic lights
Or words to that effect

The RAC said that it was these tips on economy driving, which gave better fuel consumption, and not the fuel saving devises

I will assume that you will eventually get a few recommendations from people, as some people think that they now have better fuel economy

The theory of turbulent air is good.But Hiclone in my opinion is money foolishly spent. If you are interested, buy it,try it and return it if it provides no benefit. Read up on their warranty.

Gday...

Perhaps one "point of recommendation" (or not?) could be that if the Hiclone (or similar 'turbulent air' devices) do genuinely reduce fuel consumption then SURELY, like so many other after-market devices/accessories/etc, the manufacturers would have introduced them into their designs - either under licence or bought out the manufacturer.

Manufacturers are desperate to reduce fuel consumption (and emissions etc) and would surely have already incorporated the Hiclone technology - if it worked.

Just thinkin' 

cheers - John

The 'original' Hiclone device, designed to fit on the top of a petrol engine's carburetor and create a swirl, thereby properly mixing the fuel and air as it enters the intake manifold, actually did work quite well.

These days, where fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber, any 'swirling' of air prior to intake has to be of zero benefit.

I would need some serious convincing to make be believe otherwise. 

Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Swirling air is basically turbulence ! I've worked on cylinder head flow machines. Air travels over are better if its all in same direction . With out breaking the boundary layer .. You don't see similar devices on airplane wings .,

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You do actually....Best performance comes from maintaining the laminar flow as far back on the wing as possible, but when that becomes impractical, it is common to provide a turbulator so that the break down of the boundary layer is even and controlled. In gliders this is typically at about 2/3 chord, or maybe a bit further back.

Some light reading here :) https://www.google.com.au/search?q=boundary+layer+control+on+glider+wings&ie=&oe=

None of which gives any credibility to the HiClone, which was always a con job.

Cheers,

Peter

rockylizard wrote:

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Gday...

Perhaps one "point of recommendation" (or not?) could be that if the Hiclone (or similar 'turbulent air' devices) do genuinely reduce fuel consumption then SURELY, like so many other after-market devices/accessories/etc, the manufacturers would have introduced them into their designs - either under licence or bought out the manufacturer.

Manufacturers are desperate to reduce fuel consumption (and emissions etc) and would surely have already incorporated the Hiclone technology - if it worked.

Just thinkin' 

cheers - John

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 Toyota is one manufacturer that does use a similar principal and I remember another brand years ago that also had something similar in their air intae system.

scruffy 01 wrote:

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rockylizard wrote:

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Gday...

Perhaps one "point of recommendation" (or not?) could be that if the Hiclone (or similar 'turbulent air' devices) do genuinely reduce fuel consumption then SURELY, like so many other after-market devices/accessories/etc, the manufacturers would have introduced them into their designs - either under licence or bought out the manufacturer.

Manufacturers are desperate to reduce fuel consumption (and emissions etc) and would surely have already incorporated the Hiclone technology - if it worked.

Just thinkin' 

cheers - John

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 Toyota is one manufacturer that does use a similar principal and I remember another brand years ago that also had something similar in their air intake system.

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 Hi

Toyotas(some) and other brand vehicles have had a swirl inducer built into their air cleaner boxes. But the purpose is to centrifuge the dirt out of the air into the bottom of the box as a precleaner before the filter element. All the older diesels had that and it worked well. Seems to be not considered important these days. Along with the water seperator on the bottom of the fuel filters as standard fitting it has been sacrificed for a dollar or two. 

All trucks and heavy vehicles have these cyclone prefilters on their air filters (and water seperators) as it is commonly accepted they are a good thing. I have never heard any manufacturer or their spin merchants claim it does anything for the economy or other things in these type of engines. It certainly preserves the life if they get serviced in dirty conditions. 

I guess Hiclone still sell a unit for suckers, that fit these models that already have the swirl built into the air cleaner as standard. I hope they get the swirl the same direction ?? Fit a couple and the fuel tank may start to overflow

Jaahn