Does anybody know the regulations regarding carrying a spare 4 kg bottle in a motorhome. Vehicle already has 2 x 4 kg bottles factory fitted. Was hoping to be able to carry a spare.
Hylife said
10:39 PM Nov 27, 2016
Depends on the state your vehicle is registered in. Each state and territory has different dangerous goods legislation usually enforced by 'worksafe' (Vic & NT), 'workcover' (ACT & Tas), 'safework' (SA), transport.qld.gov.au, environment.nsw.gov.au.
In Qld you can only carry two gas bottles regardless of their size.
Cochise said
10:02 AM Nov 28, 2016
Thanks Hylife, are regulations the same if the extra bottle is empty? reason being is I have a spare and I'm a long way from home and don't want to throw out a good bottle.
Aus-Kiwi said
11:51 AM Nov 28, 2016
One thing . Make sure compartment is ventilated at the bottom .
oldbloke said
10:21 PM Nov 28, 2016
Its true that the requirements for transport of dangerous goods vary from state to state but tbe differences are minor and mainly apply to much larger quantities.
In most instances gas bottles are just assumed to be full, from a risk perspective. The storage of flammable gasses should at all times be stored in the open air. If inside a car or van and it leaks any small ignition source such as electric door locks being used is likely to cause an explosion.
If you have a ute store there or add a bracket on the outside of the van. Either would be ok. As mentioned above, lots of ventilation is the key.
PS. Soapy water sprayed on potential areas of leakage will soon show up any leaks as bubbles.
brickies said
11:04 PM Nov 28, 2016
Gas is not that hard to pick stay safe and leave your spare cylinder at home , You don't want to be a mobile bomb .
Aus-Kiwi said
11:39 PM Nov 28, 2016
If you have 3 way fridge ? You deffenatley need two cylinders . The shall NEVER be installed inside cabin or Van . In my case being Motorhome I have under floor storage in side box with door . Gas detector on step is very sensitive . It'll go off at times from car fumes . Usually older pre EFI ..
Hylife said
12:52 PM Nov 30, 2016
Cochise wrote:
...... reason being is I have a spare and I'm a long way from home and don't want to throw out a good bottle.
The rules on the number of gas bottles don't apply if they are empty and are being carried for refilling or testing.
Just claim that you are taking it back home to be refilled.
You are permitted to carry gas bottles in your vehicle although it is not recommended because of the lack of a sturdy mount. Temperatures are not an issue in your car as refillable bottles are rated to well over 150C.
Bottles that have gas in them are not permitted to be stored or used in the accommodation area of your van unless they are of the disposable portable type such as the primus type (fly spray cans) or the coleman type (screw top), or similar.
I have only one 9kg on the drawbar and have chosen not to add the additional weight of a 2nd bottle on the towbar, but I do carry a smaller 4kg in the front van boot (no electrics permitted in same compartment) for those murphy's law times when you miscalculate and run out of gas out beyond the black stump and need to keep the fridge going and still boil the billy etc.
I sourced a 1 meter flexible braided gas hose as a replacement to run from the van's regulator, with a hand tightened POL fitting (no spanner required to change bottles), from an excellent gas parts shop in Spotswood Vic (James Shields and Co, 190 Hall Street)( http://www.jamesshields.com.au/ ), they have all those weird hard to find adaptors and bits and pieces. The excess hose wraps twice around the neck of the 9kg in normal use but when the 9kg runs out, the long hose allows the 4kg to either remain in the front boot or to sit on the ground, whilst over the next day or so I remove the 9kg and take it into town for filling.
macka17 said
01:29 AM Dec 7, 2016
I have 2 x 9kg on drawbat in clamps for van.
Then another 4 kg (in clamps) also on drwabar for gas water heater.
Bloke at gas place said.
They in open. clamped . have half a doz if you want.
Tony Bev said
07:05 PM Dec 7, 2016
I originally had 2 x 4 Kg gas bottles fitted in the gas compartment of the motorhome
I reinforced the floor, to take the extra weight, and have fitted 1 x 8.5 Kg and 1 x 4 Kg bottle I was unable to fit 2 x 8.5 Kg due to the size of the compartment
I had to alter the clamp to secure the bottles
Regardless of any rules or regulations, I am just not brave enough to carry a full LPG bottle inside the motorhome
Depends on the state your vehicle is registered in. Each state and territory has different dangerous goods legislation usually enforced by 'worksafe' (Vic & NT), 'workcover' (ACT & Tas), 'safework' (SA), transport.qld.gov.au, environment.nsw.gov.au.
In Qld you can only carry two gas bottles regardless of their size.
Thanks Hylife, are regulations the same if the extra bottle is empty? reason being is I have a spare and I'm a long way from home and don't want to throw out a good bottle.
In most instances gas bottles are just assumed to be full, from a risk perspective. The storage of flammable gasses should at all times be stored in the open air. If inside a car or van and it leaks any small ignition source such as electric door locks being used is likely to cause an explosion.
If you have a ute store there or add a bracket on the outside of the van. Either would be ok. As mentioned above, lots of ventilation is the key.
PS. Soapy water sprayed on potential areas of leakage will soon show up any leaks as bubbles.
The rules on the number of gas bottles don't apply if they are empty and are being carried for refilling or testing.
Just claim that you are taking it back home to be refilled.
You are permitted to carry gas bottles in your vehicle although it is not recommended because of the lack of a sturdy mount. Temperatures are not an issue in your car as refillable bottles are rated to well over 150C.
Bottles that have gas in them are not permitted to be stored or used in the accommodation area of your van unless they are of the disposable portable type such as the primus type (fly spray cans) or the coleman type (screw top), or similar.
I have only one 9kg on the drawbar and have chosen not to add the additional weight of a 2nd bottle on the towbar, but I do carry a smaller 4kg in the front van boot (no electrics permitted in same compartment) for those murphy's law times when you miscalculate and run out of gas out beyond the black stump and need to keep the fridge going and still boil the billy etc.
I sourced a 1 meter flexible braided gas hose as a replacement to run from the van's regulator, with a hand tightened POL fitting (no spanner required to change bottles), from an excellent gas parts shop in Spotswood Vic (James Shields and Co, 190 Hall Street)( http://www.jamesshields.com.au/ ), they have all those weird hard to find adaptors and bits and pieces.
The excess hose wraps twice around the neck of the 9kg in normal use but when the 9kg runs out, the long hose allows the 4kg to either remain in the front boot or to sit on the ground, whilst over the next day or so I remove the 9kg and take it into town for filling.
Then another 4 kg (in clamps) also on drwabar for gas water heater.
Bloke at gas place said.
They in open. clamped . have half a doz if you want.
I originally had 2 x 4 Kg gas bottles fitted in the gas compartment of the motorhome
I reinforced the floor, to take the extra weight, and have fitted 1 x 8.5 Kg and 1 x 4 Kg bottle
I was unable to fit 2 x 8.5 Kg due to the size of the compartment
I had to alter the clamp to secure the bottles
Regardless of any rules or regulations, I am just not brave enough to carry a full LPG bottle inside the motorhome
Hope that this info is helpful to you