I am looking to pick-up a 2009 model dual axle van tomorrow, which has a GVM of over 2000kg. I have read the regulations regarding "breakaway" set-ups, and which state that ALL wheels shall have hrakes.
My question is;- Does this mean that older caravans need to be retro-fitted with brakes to the second axle, OR does the regulation only apply to vans manufactured after a certain date / time?
Cheers to all fellow Nomads.
Enjoy, enjoy. KB
oldbloke said
11:05 PM Dec 10, 2016
Generally when law, regulation or standards are changed they are not retrospective. But all new products must comply and if the relative equiment is significantly modified or redesigned.
So I doubt you need to do anything, except keep it maintained.
oldbloke said
11:10 PM Dec 10, 2016
Just an extra note. Check your car maker that it is capable of the brakeing requirements.
Old Col said
07:44 AM Dec 11, 2016
keiron wrote:
I am looking to pick-up a 2009 model dual axle van tomorrow, which has a GVM of over 2000kg. I have read the regulations regarding "breakaway" set-ups, and which state that ALL wheels shall have hrakes.
ADR 38/02 (2005) states over 2000kg GVM must have brakes on all wheels and a brake away, so your 2009 should have /need brakes on all wheels
-- Edited by Old Col on Sunday 11th of December 2016 07:45:02 AM
keiron said
04:05 PM Dec 11, 2016
Many thanks for the replies. Cheers, KB
Cupie said
04:53 PM Dec 11, 2016
keiron wrote:
I am looking to pick-up a 2009 model dual axle van tomorrow, which has a GVM of over 2000kg. I have read the regulations regarding "breakaway" set-ups, and which state that ALL wheels shall have hrakes.
My question is;- Does this mean that older caravans need to be retro-fitted with brakes to the second axle, OR does the regulation only apply to vans manufactured after a certain date / time?
Cheers to all fellow Nomads.
Enjoy, enjoy. KB
My old 1999 Jayco Westport has brakes on all 4 wheels, so I'd be amazed if a 2009 model van did not.
Treecrest14 said
07:08 PM Dec 11, 2016
Gday Keiron
Have you checked that the back brakes don't have wires coming out of the brake backing plates? ie they may have been broken off! If there are wires but not connected to the wires going to the front axles, then just splice in a new twin core and attach to the back brake wires. There is no positive / negative - just two separate wires.
But some manufacturers do take short cuts with the law so they may not have put electric brakes drums on the back axle. - eg my Jayco came with chains which were not to Aust Standard.
Glen
PeterD said
10:44 AM Dec 12, 2016
keiron wrote:My question is;- Does this mean that older caravans need to be retro-fitted with brakes to the second axle, OR does the regulation only apply to vans manufactured after a certain date/time?
Trailers with a GMT over 2 tonnes have always been required to have brakes on both axles (at least the case back to the 60s.) You should not find a caravan over 2 tonnes GTM that is only braked by only one axle.
oldbloke said
04:33 PM Dec 16, 2016
If that has been required since the 60s it means some goof removed them. Sheesh
swamp said
11:35 AM Dec 27, 2016
hi
Brakes are required on all axles after that legislation was invented [what ever date ]
How the rules catch up with u is
1/ if the van is unregistered for a while then reregistered --vehicle must comply with current rules
2/ change of ownership and of course the relevant road worthy
The situation exception does depend on state legislation ,the rules may or maynot be retrospective
The final exception is u have big enough brakes to stop the load on one axle engineer certified of course
PeterD said
08:36 PM Dec 28, 2016
keiron wrote:
I am looking to pick-up a 2009 model dual axle van tomorrow, which has a GVM of over 2000kg.
Forgot to look at your profile earlier, I see you live in Sydney. If your van is over 2,000 GTM then it also will need a breakaway unit and there is the requirement for a battery monitor in the cab of your tug.
To those worried about the need for a roadworthy certificate, if the van is NSW registered it does not need an inspection on change of ownership. It will have had an inspection done within the last 12 months if it has current registration.
I am looking to pick-up a 2009 model dual axle van tomorrow, which has a GVM of over 2000kg. I have read the regulations regarding "breakaway" set-ups, and which state that ALL wheels shall have hrakes.
My question is;- Does this mean that older caravans need to be retro-fitted with brakes to the second axle, OR does the regulation only apply to vans manufactured after a certain date / time?
Cheers to all fellow Nomads.
Enjoy, enjoy. KB
ADR 38/02 (2005) states over 2000kg GVM must have brakes on all wheels and a brake away, so your 2009 should have /need brakes on all wheels
-- Edited by Old Col on Sunday 11th of December 2016 07:45:02 AM
Many thanks for the replies. Cheers, KB
My old 1999 Jayco Westport has brakes on all 4 wheels, so I'd be amazed if a 2009 model van did not.
Gday Keiron
Have you checked that the back brakes don't have wires coming out of the brake backing plates? ie they may have been broken off! If there are wires but not connected to the wires going to the front axles, then just splice in a new twin core and attach to the back brake wires. There is no positive / negative - just two separate wires.
But some manufacturers do take short cuts with the law so they may not have put electric brakes drums on the back axle. - eg my Jayco came with chains which were not to Aust Standard.
Glen
Trailers with a GMT over 2 tonnes have always been required to have brakes on both axles (at least the case back to the 60s.) You should not find a caravan over 2 tonnes GTM that is only braked by only one axle.
hi
Brakes are required on all axles after that legislation was invented [what ever date ]
How the rules catch up with u is
1/ if the van is unregistered for a while then reregistered --vehicle must comply with current rules
2/ change of ownership and of course the relevant road worthy
The situation exception does depend on state legislation ,the rules may or maynot be retrospective
The final exception is u have big enough brakes to stop the load on one axle engineer certified of course
Forgot to look at your profile earlier, I see you live in Sydney. If your van is over 2,000 GTM then it also will need a breakaway unit and there is the requirement for a battery monitor in the cab of your tug.
To those worried about the need for a roadworthy certificate, if the van is NSW registered it does not need an inspection on change of ownership. It will have had an inspection done within the last 12 months if it has current registration.