Pin 9 on my on my 12 pin plug melted on our recent trip so Iam going to have to retire it with an Anderson plug, the 12 pin plugs are useless for fridge wiring as the pin holes are to small in diameter ,anyway I don't want to solder the connections,can anyone recommend a good crimping tool...
iana said
01:49 PM Jan 7, 2017
You can get crimp terminals that take the bigger dia. wire and reduce it down to a pin that fits. Also do you have a spare set of pins that could share the load? I know I have, but in my case there is not the current draw off as the fridge is 12v compressor type. How ever Jayco supplied the crimp terminals, and I brought more to finish the job off.
wasn_me said
03:09 PM Jan 7, 2017
Google JY-0650A. That's a part no for crimping plyers with 6 sq mm to 50 sq mm capacity. Should be available under $50. I've been using a pair for years.
If you go to the anderson connect site there is #6awg, #8awg & #10/12awg terminals available for the 50 amp plug.
Hope this helps.
Pete
wasn_me said
03:18 PM Jan 7, 2017
#6awg is about 13.3 sq.mm or 6b&s. #8awg is about 8.4 sq. mm. or 8b&s.
#10/12awg is about 5.3-3.3 sq. mm. or 6 mm automotive.
Radar said
04:26 PM Jan 7, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
Pin 9 on my on my 12 pin plug melted on our recent trip so Iam going to have to retire it with an Anderson plug, the 12 pin plugs are useless for fridge wiring as the pin holes are to small in diameter ,anyway I don't want to solder the connections,can anyone recommend a good crimping tool...
Sqeeze them in a vice, place a bolt where you need crimping, I read that in tips and hints.
I found it works real well.
Thanks to who ever put it up.
spice said
06:37 AM Jan 8, 2017
I have run my fridge through a large round 7 pin plug with no problems in past nine years. I solder my Anderson plugs, Rod
Ron-D said
09:36 AM Jan 8, 2017
Thanks for your comments I have crimped a few over the years using the vice in my workshop ,this time I can't cart the work bench to the job I will be sitting on the grass working under the car and the van ,so a crimping tool is the only way to go getting one that will do a nice job is all I require ....
wasm I will have a look at them thanks.
Thanks Spice I prefer crimping .
Iana reducing the wire size is the cause of the problem.
Radar that's a good method but not this time.
Radar said
10:39 AM Jan 8, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
Thanks for your comments I have crimped a few over the years using the vice in my workshop ,this time I can't cart the work bench to the job I will be sitting on the grass working under the car and the van ,so a crimping tool is the only way to go getting one that will do a nice job is all I require ....
wasm I will have a look at them thanks.
Thanks Spice I prefer crimping .
Iana reducing the wire size is the cause of the problem.
Radar that's a good method but not this time.
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Hi Ron D, I do have a good sized crimping tool. A short story how I obtained them.
While navigating a roundabout in the large semi trailer, I noticed the brightly coloured object laying on the road, paked the 17 metre semi walked back and picked them up, had no idea how they worked and I really thought they were broken as they appeared jamed shut, I was at my nephews mechanical workshop months later and I was involved in a conversation and I remembered these funny looking tool under the seat of the truck pulled them out and the trademen show me how they worked. I now need to zip tie them shut when not in use but there a beaut pair to use with a racket.
I leave mine "almost" fully closed on ratchet when in box.
Just squeeze in the last little bit and they spring open again I find,
Try it.
I prefer to solder Andersons with small heat gun
and solder sticks from old days. (old plumbing gear from mate.)
Always end up with it curved like a banaaana when "I" crimp them.
They really need a wide jaw crimper to do nice job I think.
Ron-D said
05:03 PM Jan 8, 2017
That's what Iam after Radar I will have google some up...
patrol03 said
08:14 PM Jan 8, 2017
A controlled wack with a blunt cold chisel on Anderson plug fittings should do the job nicely. Done it for 40+ years and never had a return. Even use it on my own gear.For small stuff crimping pliers are great.Don't forget ALL joints should be fitted with heat shrink. Trades rarely use solder.
Hylife said
08:43 PM Jan 8, 2017
Ron-D wrote:
......can anyone recommend a good crimping tool...
Yep Patrol but most tradies have Heavy as above. or Hydraulics with Dies to suit. I go to local trade sparky to crimp all my cables. He said these Andersons were designed for either, done properly.
Proper soldering with heat gun forms a good bond when you only have toy (home garage) tools,
most of us don't do enough to warrant prices of heavier gear..
I'd have done 5 Andersons in 5 yrs. Maybe.
-- Edited by macka17 on Sunday 8th of January 2017 10:38:03 PM
Sparkster said
04:52 PM Jan 9, 2017
patrol03 wrote:
A controlled wack with a blunt cold chisel on Anderson plug fittings should do the job nicely. Done it for 40+ years and never had a return. Even use it on my own gear.For small stuff crimping pliers are great.Don't forget ALL joints should be fitted with heat shrink. Trades rarely use solder.
WOW! Now I've only been an electrical tradesman for about fifty years but if ever I caught an apprentice or tradesman using that method of "crimping" they'd be checking the classifieds for a new employer.
You have NO control over how many strands have been effectively crimped.
You have No control over how many strands have been cut off.
A good crimp with a correct size crimp for the size of the lug is the only way to crimp BUT most of us will only use that tool rarely so good clean soldering is the way to go
Now I realise Ron-D doesn't want to solder but a poor crimp job is not the answer.
Ron my suggestion would be to rethink your "not wanting" to solder. I didn't pick up on why you don't want to solder but it would be the best method given that to get the correct size crimper could be expensive.
As macka has said a visit to an auto electrician (if possible) would be a great alternative.
Just the thoughts of an old sparky.
Ron-D said
05:45 PM Jan 9, 2017
Good advice sparky I have made lots of wiring harnesses over the years for restoration jobs.iIam confident enough to know when I make an attachment to a wire it's going to be a rock solid job...
macka17 said
05:46 PM Jan 9, 2017
Only thing is.
You need more than a small electrical home soldering iron.
They wouldn't heat Anderson enuff??. to form bond??
One of those small gas burner\gun thingy's I have does great job.
Sparkster said
10:43 AM Jan 11, 2017
Interesting you mention that macka, the soldering tool I use for the Anderson style plugs is an 80 watt Jaycar.
This one easily does the job and provided you don't want to use it on printed circuit boards or big jobs like guttering etc. it's a good all rounder.
Aus-Kiwi said
10:53 AM Jan 11, 2017
A pair of lineworker pliers with crimp and dent in handle does a decent job .i usually crimp and solder . Then heat shrink .
Ron-D said
12:32 PM Jan 15, 2017
Yes a good set of crimping plyers is the way to go for me ...
Pin 9 on my on my 12 pin plug melted on our recent trip so Iam going to have to retire it with an Anderson plug, the 12 pin plugs are useless for fridge wiring as the pin holes are to small in diameter ,anyway I don't want to solder the connections,can anyone recommend a good crimping tool...
Sqeeze them in a vice, place a bolt where you need crimping, I read that in tips and hints.
I found it works real well.
Thanks to who ever put it up.
Thanks for your comments I have crimped a few over the years using the vice in my workshop ,this time I can't cart the work bench to the job I will be sitting on the grass working under the car and the van ,so a crimping tool is the only way to go getting one that will do a nice job is all I require ....
wasm I will have a look at them thanks.
Thanks Spice I prefer crimping .
Iana reducing the wire size is the cause of the problem.
Radar that's a good method but not this time.
I leave mine "almost" fully closed on ratchet when in box.
Just squeeze in the last little bit and they spring open again I find,
Try it.
I prefer to solder Andersons with small heat gun
and solder sticks from old days. (old plumbing gear from mate.)
Always end up with it curved like a banaaana when "I" crimp them.
They really need a wide jaw crimper to do nice job I think.
That's what Iam after Radar I will have google some up...
Jaycar $50
I do all my Andersons etc with this unit.
https://www.jaycar.com.au/heavy-duty-terminal-crimper/p/TH1849
Yep Patrol
but most tradies have Heavy as above. or Hydraulics with Dies to suit.
I go to local trade sparky to crimp all my cables.
He said these Andersons were designed for either, done properly.
Proper soldering with heat gun forms a good bond
when you only have toy (home garage) tools,
most of us don't do enough to warrant prices of heavier gear..
I'd have done 5 Andersons in 5 yrs. Maybe.
-- Edited by macka17 on Sunday 8th of January 2017 10:38:03 PM
Good advice sparky I have made lots of wiring harnesses over the years for restoration jobs.iIam confident enough to know when I make an attachment to a wire it's going to be a rock solid job...
You need more than a small electrical home soldering iron.
They wouldn't heat Anderson enuff??. to form bond??
One of those small gas burner\gun thingy's I have does great job.
Interesting you mention that macka, the soldering tool I use for the Anderson style plugs is an 80 watt Jaycar.
This one easily does the job and provided you don't want to use it on printed circuit boards or big jobs like guttering etc. it's a good all rounder.
Yes a good set of crimping plyers is the way to go for me ...