Thanks for the mine of information, incredibly useful and helpful, very much appreciated.
I was prompted to join to let others know some info that may be useful.
Travelling in Vic on the Ouyen to Pinaroo road please be aware that fuel is not available at Murrayville every day of the week. You can only fuel up on two days a week and then only for an hour on each of those days, so that's two hours a week fuel is available in Murrayville.
I specifically checked the net to see if I could get fuel at Murrayville as that was where I was heading for the night, and was shocked upon arrival to discover fuel was not available. (I do carry some spare in a jerry can).
I'm told many travellers get caught out and end up having to rely on the services of a farmer who told me he gets a call of help around 3 times a week from the local take away cafe near the mostly closed service station. Can't recommend that cafe highly enough either, lovely people.
Of course there is fuel at Walpeup, a pretty little town with a wonderful native garden display.
Happy travels all.
Best wishes
Franko
rockylizard said
11:15 AM Apr 28, 2017
Gday...
Firstly, welcome to the forum Franko.
Thanks for that info. I travel up and through that country fairly regularly ... not that often recently ... and like the area.
It will certainly make me check before going through.
Here's what I grabbed from google -
Cheers - John
Tony Bev said
11:21 AM Apr 28, 2017
Hello Franko Stevens
May I be one of the first to welcome you to this forum
Thanks for that information, I am sure that it will benefit many of us in the future
I hope to be in the Pinaroo area next summer, but not sure, (I never make a plan set in concrete), if I will be going through Murrayville
Edit to say that John was posting as I was typing
Thanks for putting up the times of opening, John
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Friday 28th of April 2017 11:23:19 AM
brickies said
12:47 PM Apr 28, 2017
If fuel a problem in Victoria you better not go bush in the big states .
Franko Stevens said
09:06 PM Apr 28, 2017
Yeah, already experienced that.
Franko Stevens said
09:08 PM Apr 28, 2017
Thanks John and that's great putting up the hours.
Cheers Franko.
Franko Stevens said
09:11 PM Apr 28, 2017
Thanks too Tony and Bev for the welcome.
I also don't do plans when travelling, enjoy the spur of the moment and freedom of it all.
Best wishes
Franko
sandsmere said
07:00 AM Apr 29, 2017
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
Firstly, welcome to the forum Franko.
Thanks for that info. I travel up and through that country fairly regularly ... not that often recently ... and like the area.
It will certainly make me check before going through.
Here's what I grabbed from google -
Cheers - John
I love those little towns in the Wimmera- Mallee area.
How's the website there.
The business is listed as a car dealer. Only open for 45 minutes, 2 days a week.
Wouldn't imagine there would be a tremendous turnover involved.
Would give the locals time to top up though.
It's good info for travellers though. Thanks Franco.
Bushpie said
02:37 PM May 17, 2017
Firstly ....of course welcome to the forum....and thanks for the heads up....
Ihought we in W..ait A ...while we a bit behind the times....many of our smaller wheatbelt towns who find it unviable to stay open all hours have now installed card operated bowsers.....
So its good to see cough cough Vic struggling to keep ahead of modern technology
Kev Pearce said
10:10 AM May 20, 2017
Fuel availability when travelling, especially in more isolated areas (and I don't mean the true Outback; closer in but far from the coast) is a constant concern. Is there a site one can log on to to check towns/areas for fuel availability? Case in point, planned a trip to Charters Towers and had real concerns re fuel between Clermont and Charters Towers. Sent an email to Visitor Information Centre at CT and received advice fuel is available to Belyando Crossing. Very appreciative of the help, but as I said, is there a site one can determine this type of info???
Aus-Kiwi said
10:15 AM May 20, 2017
Welcome to the forums . Yes I really appreciate the long range tanks we have . Doesn't mean we don't nearly get cought out though !! Learn to FILL the fuel tanks when you can !! If you see people traveling at 40 kph ? Chances are they are low on fuel !!
Hylife said
09:54 PM May 26, 2017
If you can make it the extra 30km to Pinnaroo you will find some of the cheapest fuel in Australia
Dickodownunder said
09:21 AM May 27, 2017
Kev Pearce wrote:
Fuel availability when travelling, especially in more isolated areas (and I don't mean the true Outback; closer in but far from the coast) is a constant concern. Is there a site one can log on to to check towns/areas for fuel availability? Case in point, planned a trip to Charters Towers and had real concerns re fuel between Clermont and Charters Towers. Sent an email to Visitor Information Centre at CT and received advice fuel is available to Belyando Crossing. Very appreciative of the help, but as I said, is there a site one can determine this type of info???
Hi Kev,
Try the App for your phone called Fuel Map.
I use it and while it is probably not 100% accurate because it is a Wiki and relies on all its users entering the info, it gives you reasonable information re fuel in each town.
You can search by town or turn on locations on your device and it will tell you what is closest to you.
I just put in Murrayville and it bought up the map of the town but did not indicate any fuel outlets.
The above outlet could be added with a note to say its days of trading and times.
Oh and the App is free.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Saturday 27th of May 2017 09:22:40 AM
Kev Pearce said
11:02 AM May 27, 2017
Thank you Geoff. I am not that technically smart, but given there is such a beast that I asked about, may be I better get smarter sooner. Thanks again.
PeterD said
04:45 PM May 27, 2017
Dickodownunder wrote:Try the App for your phone called Fuel Map.
There are heaps of those available. However I have not seen one yet that is reliable. Many of them are user updated and prices can be way out. Which ones have opening hours (I am yet to find one?) The OP used one of those sites and was caught out. When travelling through a series of small towns dont pass a fuel station unless you can be assured or getting to the second fuel stop past that point. Not only do you have to watch the opening hours but the small stations often run out of fuel.
Dickodownunder said
12:35 PM May 28, 2017
PeterD wrote:
Dickodownunder wrote:Try the App for your phone called Fuel Map.
There are heaps of those available. However I have not seen one yet that is reliable. Many of them are user updated and prices can be way out. Which ones have opening hours (I am yet to find one?) The OP used one of those sites and was caught out. When travelling through a series of small towns dont pass a fuel station unless you can be assured or getting to the second fuel stop past that point. Not only do you have to watch the opening hours but the small stations often run out of fuel.
Here is a part of a screenshot from Fuel Map.
I cropped it to remove the map so the detail will be easily read by forum members.
You may note that there is a comment about dirty fuel on the details of one of the fuel outlets.
Anyone using the APP can update details if required.
It also displays how many days since the last update.
Any wiki is only as good as the info put in but in most cases the wiki apps with many users stand a much better chance of being accurate than ones that have few users.
As I said in my post, yesterday I entered Murrayville into the app and the result was no fuel outlets in Murrayville.
If the OP was using the app he may have known that fuel was a problem there with fuel (no outlets listed) and if he was in town and noted the restricted trading hours he may have updated the wiki to indicate the situation.
Peter, you are absolutely correct in regard that no wiki could advise of an outlet running out of fuel unless the actual owner/manager of the outlet updated the wiki information.
All things aside I feel the Fuel Maps app is generally helpful to most travellers.
Given that the Puma outlet is the Gold City Roadhouse and is a well known and well frequented truckie stop, it seems hard to believe as any 'dirty fuel' they sold would have almost put them out of business.
Truckies will very quickly spread the news of 'dirty diesel' ... quite apart from the $$$$'s it would have cost the truckies (and all the 'normal' motorists who were caught) to rectify the damage to their motors.
I wonder how 'relevant' or 'recent' that 'dirty fuel' advice is.
Cheers - John
Dickodownunder said
06:31 AM May 29, 2017
Hi John,
You are not the only one that says you "shouldn't" get dirty fuel there.
Refer to the last four or five posts on this forum topic
As it happened I fueled up in Emerald and drove to Charters Towers. Stayed overnite and fueled up in Charters Towers the following morning. I only got 5 kls out of town and the engine warning light came on but with no code. As I have a scan guage, I reset it and carried on. I got to approx 60 kilometers from Townsville and the fuel filter warning light came on. I took it to Toyota in Townsville and they changed the filter. On inspection of the old filter it was blocked with what looked like fine particles of dirt but as Rosie said in the post from the other forum, there tanks could be getting old. In any case it cost me an unwanted overnite accomodation cost and a new fuel filter and I might add, a lot of angst in that last 60 kls. The fuel filter had been replaced at 39.000 kls in Port Lincoln and I had only driven approx 4.500 kls.
I will replace the filter again at the next service regardless as I feel that there is probably more foreign matter still in my tank and as well I am carrying a spare filter just in case.
Back to the Fuel Map app.
Anyone with the app can update that info or with detailed trading times at any time if they see fit.
Cheers
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 29th of May 2017 06:32:52 AM
rockylizard said
09:21 AM May 29, 2017
Gday...
Feel ya angst Dicko but still ... ya'd reckon it would only take one truck to get a gutfull of 'sus-fuel' and the ceebees would be hot with chatter and the place would be avoided in droves.
A truckie cannot afford to get put off the road ... and incur that cost. They all know the places to trust ... and NOT to trust.
The roadhouse would go broke in a very short time. Maybe they had just got a big load of fuel replenished into the tanks and it 'stirred it up' from the bottom of their tanks.
Anyway, it don't matter a rat's rectum now .. ya got a gutfull and had minimal damage thankfully.
cheers - John
Dickodownunder said
09:13 PM May 29, 2017
Absolutely John,and I would not wish what happened to me on any other traveller.
Bearing in mind that truck filters are far larger than a Toyota filter and trucks have multiple filters may make a big difference.
Another strange happening which meant nothing to me at the time was as I filled with fuel my wife went into pay. The console operator questioned her quite aggressively as to which pump I used and then sent her back out to physically check the pump number.
When she went back in the console operator would not serve her and with that a male supervisor processsd the payment.
At the time apparently both the console operator and the supervisor watched me move my vehicle from the pump area to wait for my wife to come back.
When my wife got back in the car she said that she felt something was very strange with that purchase.
In my personal opinion both those employees knew that there was a problem and I could bet they breathed a big sigh of relief that I actually drove off their site.
I don't give a rats thingo regarding how honourable and up front anyone thinks that fuel outlet is... the simple fact is, the operators of that Puma outlet allowed me to fill my vehicle with fuel which caused me great expense and inconvenience over the following 48 hours.
If comments on a fuel wiki just save one other poor traveller from what I had to go through then so be it....
Cheers
PeterD said
08:03 AM May 30, 2017
Geoff, convince me that you did not get the dirty fuel further back. Your filter was getting blocked during that part of the trikp. Then thfill you did at CT stirred up what was in the bottom of the tank an the next bit of the trip finished the blocking process.
Dickodownunder said
10:22 AM May 31, 2017
Yes Peter that thought crossed my mind.
My reasons for believing that the fuel was a problem in CT was the fact that the console operator sent my wife all the way back out to check the pump number and then when she returned she referred my wife to a male supervisor for payment.
I would imagine that the staff knew that there was a problem or at least knew that the tank supplying pump 11 was very low and probably should have had a sign on it stating "do not use" or similar.
Believe the situation to the contrary if you wish.
My post in this topic was not to discuss fuel quality but to point out that the wiki Fuel Map can be benificial to travellers.
rockylizard said
10:51 AM May 31, 2017
Gday...
Fuel is held and supplied from underground tank/s containing many thousands of litres of particular grade fuels - diesel and petrol.
Each 'pump' on the forecourt does not have a dedicated tank ... each underground tank is connected to a number of forecourt 'pumps'.
In essence, the forecourt 'pump' is only a meter, display panel and hose to deliver to vehicle tank. The actual pump is either a 'pressure' one submersed in the tank, or in older servos, a 'suction' pump within the forecourt 'pump'.
On that basis, in your case, 'pump' 11 would not have been the only forecourt 'pump' that would/could/did access "dirty fuel".
Cheers - John
Aus-Kiwi said
01:37 PM May 31, 2017
Welcome ., Haven't had too many issues. But I tell ya . I learnt to "fuel up" when I can . Searching a head on phone can help ? But I wouldn't rely on it . I'm sure at times I've used 40 mpg taking it easy to next servo 200 klrs away ., lol Great speed limiter . Lol even with 300L tank .
Hi everyone,
Just joined today.
Thanks for the mine of information, incredibly useful and helpful, very much appreciated.
I was prompted to join to let others know some info that may be useful.
Travelling in Vic on the Ouyen to Pinaroo road please be aware that fuel is not available at Murrayville every day of the week. You can only fuel up on two days a week and then only for an hour on each of those days, so that's two hours a week fuel is available in Murrayville.
I specifically checked the net to see if I could get fuel at Murrayville as that was where I was heading for the night, and was shocked upon arrival to discover fuel was not available. (I do carry some spare in a jerry can).
I'm told many travellers get caught out and end up having to rely on the services of a farmer who told me he gets a call of help around 3 times a week from the local take away cafe near the mostly closed service station. Can't recommend that cafe highly enough either, lovely people.
Of course there is fuel at Walpeup, a pretty little town with a wonderful native garden display.
Happy travels all.
Best wishes
Franko
Gday...
Firstly, welcome to the forum Franko.
Thanks for that info. I travel up and through that country fairly regularly ... not that often recently ... and like the area.
It will certainly make me check before going through.
Here's what I grabbed from google -
Cheers - John
Hello Franko Stevens
May I be one of the first to welcome you to this forum
Thanks for that information, I am sure that it will benefit many of us in the future
I hope to be in the Pinaroo area next summer, but not sure, (I never make a plan set in concrete), if I will be going through Murrayville
Edit to say that John was posting as I was typing
Thanks for putting up the times of opening, John
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Friday 28th of April 2017 11:23:19 AM
Yeah, already experienced that.
Thanks John and that's great putting up the hours.
Cheers Franko.
Thanks too Tony and Bev for the welcome.
I also don't do plans when travelling, enjoy the spur of the moment and freedom of it all.
Best wishes
Franko
Ihought we in W..ait A ...while we a bit behind the times....many of our smaller wheatbelt towns who find it unviable to stay open all hours have now installed card operated bowsers.....
So its good to see cough cough Vic struggling to keep ahead of modern technology
Fuel availability when travelling, especially in more isolated areas (and I don't mean the true Outback; closer in but far from the coast) is a constant concern. Is there a site one can log on to to check towns/areas for fuel availability? Case in point, planned a trip to Charters Towers and had real concerns re fuel between Clermont and Charters Towers. Sent an email to Visitor Information Centre at CT and received advice fuel is available to Belyando Crossing. Very appreciative of the help, but as I said, is there a site one can determine this type of info???
Hi Kev,
Try the App for your phone called Fuel Map.
I use it and while it is probably not 100% accurate because it is a Wiki and relies on all its users entering the info, it gives you reasonable information re fuel in each town.
You can search by town or turn on locations on your device and it will tell you what is closest to you.
I just put in Murrayville and it bought up the map of the town but did not indicate any fuel outlets.
The above outlet could be added with a note to say its days of trading and times.
Oh and the App is free.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Saturday 27th of May 2017 09:22:40 AM
Thank you Geoff. I am not that technically smart, but given there is such a beast that I asked about, may be I better get smarter sooner. Thanks again.
There are heaps of those available. However I have not seen one yet that is reliable. Many of them are user updated and prices can be way out. Which ones have opening hours (I am yet to find one?) The OP used one of those sites and was caught out. When travelling through a series of small towns dont pass a fuel station unless you can be assured or getting to the second fuel stop past that point. Not only do you have to watch the opening hours but the small stations often run out of fuel.
Here is a part of a screenshot from Fuel Map.
I cropped it to remove the map so the detail will be easily read by forum members.
You may note that there is a comment about dirty fuel on the details of one of the fuel outlets.
Anyone using the APP can update details if required.
It also displays how many days since the last update.
Any wiki is only as good as the info put in but in most cases the wiki apps with many users stand a much better chance of being accurate than ones that have few users.
As I said in my post, yesterday I entered Murrayville into the app and the result was no fuel outlets in Murrayville.
If the OP was using the app he may have known that fuel was a problem there with fuel (no outlets listed) and if he was in town and noted the restricted trading hours he may have updated the wiki to indicate the situation.
Peter, you are absolutely correct in regard that no wiki could advise of an outlet running out of fuel unless the actual owner/manager of the outlet updated the wiki information.
All things aside I feel the Fuel Maps app is generally helpful to most travellers.
Gday...
That is very interesting, Geoff.
Given that the Puma outlet is the Gold City Roadhouse and is a well known and well frequented truckie stop, it seems hard to believe as any 'dirty fuel' they sold would have almost put them out of business.
Truckies will very quickly spread the news of 'dirty diesel' ... quite apart from the $$$$'s it would have cost the truckies (and all the 'normal' motorists who were caught) to rectify the damage to their motors.
I wonder how 'relevant' or 'recent' that 'dirty fuel' advice is.
Cheers - John
Hi John,
You are not the only one that says you "shouldn't" get dirty fuel there.
Refer to the last four or five posts on this forum topic
caravanersforum.com/viewtopic.php
As it happened I fueled up in Emerald and drove to Charters Towers. Stayed overnite and fueled up in Charters Towers the following morning.
I only got 5 kls out of town and the engine warning light came on but with no code.
As I have a scan guage, I reset it and carried on.
I got to approx 60 kilometers from Townsville and the fuel filter warning light came on.
I took it to Toyota in Townsville and they changed the filter.
On inspection of the old filter it was blocked with what looked like fine particles of dirt but as Rosie said in the post from the other forum, there tanks could be getting old.
In any case it cost me an unwanted overnite accomodation cost and a new fuel filter and I might add, a lot of angst in that last 60 kls.
The fuel filter had been replaced at 39.000 kls in Port Lincoln and I had only driven approx 4.500 kls.
I will replace the filter again at the next service regardless as I feel that there is probably more foreign matter still in my tank and as well I am carrying a spare filter just in case.
Back to the Fuel Map app.
Anyone with the app can update that info or with detailed trading times at any time if they see fit.
Cheers
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Monday 29th of May 2017 06:32:52 AM
Gday...
Feel ya angst Dicko
but still ... ya'd reckon it would only take one truck to get a gutfull of 'sus-fuel' and the ceebees would be hot with chatter and the place would be avoided in droves.
A truckie cannot afford to get put off the road ... and incur that cost. They all know the places to trust ... and NOT to trust.
The roadhouse would go broke in a very short time. Maybe they had just got a big load of fuel replenished into the tanks and it 'stirred it up' from the bottom of their tanks.
Anyway, it don't matter a rat's rectum now .. ya got a gutfull and had minimal damage thankfully.
cheers - John
Gday...
Fuel is held and supplied from underground tank/s containing many thousands of litres of particular grade fuels - diesel and petrol.
Each 'pump' on the forecourt does not have a dedicated tank ... each underground tank is connected to a number of forecourt 'pumps'.
In essence, the forecourt 'pump' is only a meter, display panel and hose to deliver to vehicle tank. The actual pump is either a 'pressure' one submersed in the tank, or in older servos, a 'suction' pump within the forecourt 'pump'.
On that basis, in your case, 'pump' 11 would not have been the only forecourt 'pump' that would/could/did access "dirty fuel".
Cheers - John