I'm having a hard time finding any way of checking weight distribution of a bus, . . . eg: Toyota coaster corner weights ?
I have used various scales and corner weight jacks when I raced open wheeler's and super modified's but I find nothing that will do the job for a heavier commercial vehicles.
Can anyone shed some light on this or point me in a right direction ?
Tx.
-- Edited by Dr Sable on Tuesday 16th of May 2017 10:56:46 PM
Bagmaker said
07:50 AM May 17, 2017
The right direction would be weighbridge. Some are free nowadays but even the $ spent are worthwhile investments.
Where are you in the world?
Dr Sable said
09:23 AM May 17, 2017
Bagmaker wrote:
Where are you in the world?
I live what many consider ahole of the world, namely Canberra. I know the weighbridges here (3) and all 3 give only a total weight of vehicle, trailer etc etc.
Tony Bev said
03:20 PM May 17, 2017
You could try to pay twice, and have the front, and then the rear axle weighed
You could then get a small hydraulic jack, of lower lifting capacity than the full axle weight
If you independently jack near each wheel, to get a feel of which side of the axle is heavier, it may help you to redistribute the weight
Another way to check if one side of an axle is heavier than the other side, would be to lower the tyre pressure a bit, (equal on all wheels), and look at the bulge, or height from road to bottom of wheel rim
Purchasing the type of scales the police heavies use, would do the job, but would also be fairly expensive
I have now used up all my imagination for the rest of the week, except to point out
If you knew you were underweight (by having a light load), than slowly driving past the police heavies, with your bulging tyres, they will probably weighed you
Dr Sable said
06:24 PM May 17, 2017
Tony Bev wrote:
You could try to pay twice, and have the front, and then the rear axle weighed
You could then get a small hydraulic jack, of lower lifting capacity than the full axle weight
If you independently jack near each wheel, to get a feel of which side of the axle is heavier, it may help you to redistribute the weight
Another way to check if one side of an axle is heavier than the other side, would be to lower the tyre pressure a bit, (equal on all wheels), and look at the bulge, or height from road to bottom of wheel rim
Purchasing the type of scales the police heavies use, would do the job, but would also be fairly expensive
I have now used up all my imagination for the rest of the week, except to point out
If you knew you were underweight (by having a light load), than slowly driving past the police heavies, with your bulging tyres, they will probably weighed you
@Tony/Bev The costs of using weighbridges is not an issue nor do I worry about weight as I will go into extreme weight saving mode before the final fit out. Why I need all four corners weighed is so I can redistribute all heavy components evenly more as a safety feature rather than a performance thing. I'll keep looking and reading. Something should turn up.
-- Edited by Dr Sable on Wednesday 17th of May 2017 06:26:07 PM
Aus-Kiwi said
09:00 PM May 17, 2017
Can you just measure guard to ground side by side at least ? Hoping suspension is pretty much the same each side ? Mate has race scales for his drag car .. But way under your weight ..
macka17 said
04:52 PM May 18, 2017
If suspension fairly good.
Empty rig.
Then weigh each item and record where you place it.
That'll give you a decent perspective.
Just remember where multi battery's, and full fuel tanks are.
Weigh batt's count ltrs.
1 ltr = 4\5ths ish kg.
Basic veh's are "normally" pretty well balanced to start.
with heavy end the front. with eng\transm. but pretty even side to side.
Caravan dealers sometimes have individual scales?.
Make a coupla ph calls.
If Highways in your area. They DO.
And if you over and he had a a bad night. they normally will let you sort it.
So take a mate with trlr or tow one youself to unload into
Most blokes are just that. will help..
Tony Bev said
05:46 PM May 18, 2017
Hello Dr Sable
Hope that the below ideas are helpful
Hair brained scheme number one 4 tonne porter power as in the picture below ($160 on Ebay) Insert "T" Piece and hydraulic pressure gauge between the pump and hose Calculate the square area of the ram (Pi r sq) multiplied by the pressure (either psi or kg/cm) This should give perhaps not exact, but at least a ball park weight
Pressure gauge $25 on Ebay, in picture below
Hair brained scheme number two Pallet jack with 2,000 Kg weighing scale Assuming that no corner is greater than 2 tonne
Picture below is second hand pallet jack on Gumtree WA
Edit to say that the SH pallet jack is $400
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Thursday 18th of May 2017 05:48:55 PM
Speaking of hair rained ideas what about the old fulcrum idea, that is a long stick a chock underneath put stick of pole on it and lift you know short under the van corner and long handle and lift on to bathroom scales as you only want to check weight is equal on each side the actual weight is inconsequential .
Hope his makes some sense
Ok so I'm boored at the airport
Hi all.
I'm having a hard time finding any way of checking weight distribution of a bus, . . . eg: Toyota coaster corner weights ?
I have used various scales and corner weight jacks when I raced open wheeler's and super modified's but I find nothing that will do the job for a heavier commercial vehicles.
Can anyone shed some light on this or point me in a right direction ?
Tx.
-- Edited by Dr Sable on Tuesday 16th of May 2017 10:56:46 PM
Where are you in the world?
I live what many consider ahole of the world, namely Canberra. I know the weighbridges here (3) and all 3 give only a total weight of vehicle, trailer etc etc.
You could then get a small hydraulic jack, of lower lifting capacity than the full axle weight
If you independently jack near each wheel, to get a feel of which side of the axle is heavier, it may help you to redistribute the weight
Another way to check if one side of an axle is heavier than the other side, would be to lower the tyre pressure a bit, (equal on all wheels), and look at the bulge, or height from road to bottom of wheel rim
Purchasing the type of scales the police heavies use, would do the job, but would also be fairly expensive
I have now used up all my imagination for the rest of the week, except to point out
If you knew you were underweight (by having a light load), than slowly driving past the police heavies, with your bulging tyres, they will probably weighed you
-- Edited by Dr Sable on Wednesday 17th of May 2017 06:26:07 PM
Empty rig.
Then weigh each item and record where you place it.
That'll give you a decent perspective.
Just remember where multi battery's, and full fuel tanks are.
Weigh batt's count ltrs.
1 ltr = 4\5ths ish kg.
Basic veh's are "normally" pretty well balanced to start.
with heavy end the front. with eng\transm. but pretty even side to side.
Caravan dealers sometimes have individual scales?.
Make a coupla ph calls.
If Highways in your area. They DO.
And if you over and he had a a bad night. they normally will let you sort it.
So take a mate with trlr or tow one youself to unload into
Most blokes are just that. will help..
Hello Dr Sable
Hope that the below ideas are helpful
Hair brained scheme number one
4 tonne porter power as in the picture below ($160 on Ebay)
Insert "T" Piece and hydraulic pressure gauge between the pump and hose
Calculate the square area of the ram (Pi r sq) multiplied by the pressure (either psi or kg/cm)
This should give perhaps not exact, but at least a ball park weight
Pressure gauge $25 on Ebay, in picture below
Hair brained scheme number two
Pallet jack with 2,000 Kg weighing scale
Assuming that no corner is greater than 2 tonne
Picture below is second hand pallet jack on Gumtree WA
Edit to say that the SH pallet jack is $400
-- Edited by Tony Bev on Thursday 18th of May 2017 05:48:55 PM
Hope his makes some sense
Ok so I'm boored at the airport
Woody