{edit: from the link above - G & S Chassis manufacture over 4500 chassis per year and it was through their extensive experience that it came to their notice that a small number of early chassis (less than 0.5% of chassis produced) have exhibited a trailing arm weld failure.}
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 14th of June 2017 06:51:00 PM
Possum3 said
07:49 PM Jun 14, 2017
kezngaz wrote:
Any idea what its in relation with Possum3?
Basically, No - I am uncertain of which manufacturers are involved - I noticed that there has been a lot of talk about serious caravan accidents and the ACCC is stepping up their vigilance on manufacturers. Although I believe the failures do go back to August 2016
There are several caravan owner sites that have some pretty disturbing pictures of their caravans.
The recall notice doesn't give much of (any) an idea of just how many there are likely to be found faulty.
rockylizard said
08:40 PM Jun 14, 2017
Possum3 wrote:
kezngaz wrote:
Any idea what its in relation with Possum3?
Basically, No - I am uncertain of which manufacturers are involved - I noticed that there has been a lot of talk about serious caravan accidents and the ACCC is stepping up their vigilance on manufacturers. Although I believe the failures do go back to August 2016
There are several caravan owner sites that have some pretty disturbing pictures of their caravans.
The recall notice doesn't give much of (any) an idea of just how many there are likely to be found faulty.
Gday...
Possum (and everyone else?) read my earlier post -
"G & S Chassis manufacture over 4500 chassis per year and it was through their extensive experience that it came to their notice that a small number of early chassis (less than 0.5% of chassis produced) have exhibited a trailing arm weld failure."
Cheers - John
bill12 said
04:09 AM Jun 15, 2017
By looking at the photos of the failure, It looks as though the wall thickness of the componants is too small. I am an engineer, and a welder by trade.Perhaps the later models have heavier componants. The welds are usually the strongest part of the thing. Failures are usually in the heat affected zone beside the weld. Its good to see a manufacturer back their products.
Dickodownunder said
07:18 AM Jun 15, 2017
Possum3 wrote:
kezngaz wrote:
Any idea what its in relation with Possum3?
Basically, No - I am uncertain of which manufacturers are involved - I noticed that there has been a lot of talk about serious caravan accidents and the ACCC is stepping up their vigilance on manufacturers. Although I believe the failures do go back to August 2016
There are several caravan owner sites that have some pretty disturbing pictures of their caravans.
The recall notice doesn't give much of (any) an idea of just how many there are likely to be found faulty.
I do believe that Lotus is one make that has this suspension.
It appears that the G$S problem was allegedly hoped to remain "low key" but the word is out.
The Al Ko recall at least lists all the van makes in the document.
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Thursday 15th of June 2017 07:31:17 AM
Possum3 said
08:45 AM Jun 15, 2017
bill12 wrote:
By looking at the photos of the failure, It looks as though the wall thickness of the componants is too small. I am an engineer, and a welder by trade.Perhaps the later models have heavier componants. The welds are usually the strongest part of the thing. Failures are usually in the heat affected zone beside the weld. Its good to see a manufacturer back their products.
You may be right Bill12, It seem that the rework is to weld a strengthening gusset plate over the section.
macka17 said
12:04 PM Jun 15, 2017
Dunno about Gussett over that job.
Looks pretty light on tubing. (Even if H\T Steel.)
for a suspension swinging arm section.
They take all the weight and stresses from the bouncing.
Unless on Underwater welds and water friction.
I've never seen the sense in grinding down welds.
I like to see a nice run anywhere.
some are beautiful works of art.
{edit: from the link above - G & S Chassis manufacture over 4500 chassis per year and it was through their extensive experience that it came to their notice that a small number of early chassis (less than 0.5% of chassis produced) have exhibited a trailing arm weld failure.}
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 14th of June 2017 06:51:00 PM
John That failure rate you quote is high in engineering terms,,,, 1 in up to 200 will fail. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
I'll bet someone else found the problem and someone has squealed and made public,,, this is how recalls surface in public domain.
-- Edited by Baz421 on Thursday 15th of June 2017 05:10:41 PM
Gday....
Thanks Possum - I woz a bit late -
http://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t63652472/cia-vic-applaud-positive-action-by-well-established-member/
{edit: from the link above - G & S Chassis manufacture over 4500 chassis per year and it was through their extensive experience that it came to their notice that a small number of early chassis (less than 0.5% of chassis produced) have exhibited a trailing arm weld failure.}
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 14th of June 2017 06:51:00 PM
Basically, No - I am uncertain of which manufacturers are involved - I noticed that there has been a lot of talk about serious caravan accidents and the ACCC is stepping up their vigilance on manufacturers. Although I believe the failures do go back to August 2016
There are several caravan owner sites that have some pretty disturbing pictures of their caravans.
The recall notice doesn't give much of (any) an idea of just how many there are likely to be found faulty.
Gday...
"G & S Chassis manufacture over 4500 chassis per year and it was through their extensive experience that it came to their notice that a small number of early chassis (less than 0.5% of chassis produced) have exhibited a trailing arm weld failure."
Cheers - John
I do believe that Lotus is one make that has this suspension.
It appears that the G$S problem was allegedly hoped to remain "low key" but the word is out.
The Al Ko recall at least lists all the van makes in the document.
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/al-ko-international-pty-ltd-braked-axles-10-electric-fitted-to-caravans-and-camper-trailers
-- Edited by Dickodownunder on Thursday 15th of June 2017 07:31:17 AM
You may be right Bill12, It seem that the rework is to weld a strengthening gusset plate over the section.
Looks pretty light on tubing. (Even if H\T Steel.)
for a suspension swinging arm section.
They take all the weight and stresses from the bouncing.
Unless on Underwater welds and water friction.
I've never seen the sense in grinding down welds.
I like to see a nice run anywhere.
some are beautiful works of art.
John That failure rate you quote is high in engineering terms,,,, 1 in up to 200 will fail. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
I'll bet someone else found the problem and someone has squealed and made public,,, this is how recalls surface in public domain.
-- Edited by Baz421 on Thursday 15th of June 2017 05:10:41 PM