Could any one tell me if a honda 2i can run a herron air command in a jayco and in hot weather looking at getting one if they work well
Travelerwj said
08:05 PM Jul 19, 2017
Hi baglimit2002, we have a honda 2 and it runs heron air conditioner in our jayco outback discovery poptop with no problems. Also runs other small draw items at same time like TV
, battery charger ect. Hope this helps you.
KFT said
09:01 PM Jul 19, 2017
G'day baglimit2002
We use a honda Eu20i as well and it runs our Ibis2 aircon even on 39 deg days.
the secret is to have a short a lead as possible and made of heavy duty 15A flex.
Frank
Hey Jim said
09:25 PM Jul 19, 2017
Ditto from us EU20i, Jayco Journey Outback 2015.
Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Wednesday 19th of July 2017 09:27:05 PM
Tony Bev said
09:31 PM Jul 19, 2017
Also ditto from us
We also have the Honda EU20i, our roof aircon is a different brand, but I do not think that there is much difference in them
Possum3 said
11:08 PM Jul 19, 2017
No problems with 20i Cooling and will run additional small items - Heating draws more power so must limit small additional items.
macka17 said
08:41 AM Jul 20, 2017
You hear a lot from the ones not happy too.
Some tend to Use the 2.2\3\4? kw Yamaha one instead.
Similar price. same reliability.
Much more power.
Others again use selected Chinese ones for yrs with NO problems
Me for one,
After changing up from a Honda Under\powered for Air cond unit.
(Did have for 20+ yrs for cost of 2 renewed Solenoids only.
Look around a bit. The extra $1500 plus change,
will buy quite a few useful items too.
IE Several panels, Battery. Regulator.
TOTAL Independance..
My 3.8\3.5 float runs 2 houses and My Aircond.
or 2 vans with 1 x aircond. Comfortably.
for costing of around $400 del. 6 or 7 yrs. 3 Cyclones. Never missed a beat.
Just another Alternative for some that may not know of..
baglimit2002 said
08:55 AM Jul 20, 2017
Cheers for the feed back
JeffRae said
03:58 PM Jul 20, 2017
The reply I got from Honda when I couldn't run our Heron
Take your van and test the Honda first
"Hello Jeff, The minimum recommended generator capacity for any Aircommand unit is 2.8Kva and the gen set should deliver the smoothest possible sine wave. There has never been a heron 2.2 designed specifically to run on a Honda 2. Rotary compressors as used in our air conditioners, are just like motor car engines for example. They are manufactured to a dimensional tolerance, thus some are slightly tighter than others which may account for some people being able to run a Honda 2 successfully. The risk however is that in demandingly hot weather, any gen set will lose some efficiency and the air conditioner will require a bigger kick start in the same conditions. This leaves the customer at risk of being disappointed when they need the air conditioner most. Hopefully this explains sufficiently why we recommend nothing less than a 2.8Kva gen set dedicated solely to the air conditioner with nothing else drawing from it, not even a battery charger. Should you have further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards, Colin Bates. Service / Warranty Office"
-- Edited by JeffRae on Thursday 20th of July 2017 03:59:43 PM
macka17 said
05:40 PM Jul 20, 2017
and That's why Yammie\Kwakka, are 2.8kva.
and my Chinee is 3.5 constant.
Mine runs 2 houses when Cyclone comes through.
with us all in mine with Air Cond running.
Only problem the first time we did it.
The ONLY house in street with lights on.
Guess where ALL the fly's and insects congregated??.
For 4 1\2 days
ALL blinds closed during, thereafter.
IF you going to have one. Think about ALL possible. Sensible, uses for.
And buy to suit.
Welder would be nice. But even my Inverter one takes 6.5kva Min.
Can't have it all hey
Big Mal said
05:58 PM Jul 20, 2017
Our Honda 2kva ran ours in the old rig no drama yet same unit on mates van his Honda nor mine would, depends I suppose, mine runs our Dometic 3000 in the current van easily, not revving the guts out...The Honda isn't really a 2kva it more like 1.8kva in the real world, just make sure the HWS is turned off, thats has fooled a lot of people.
The secret is run the genny for a few minutes to get things going, set your AC on low fan and don't turn the dial all the way to freeze, turn it on then let it all fire up and run for a little bit before turning the dial to cooler, do it in steps allowing everything to settle in before turning it a bit more and increasing the fan speed, then your not slamming your genny hard right from the start, that applies to any genny really.
Cruising Cruze said
07:21 PM Jul 20, 2017
Hi Big Mal
That's an very good tip
Would solve a lot of problems for many people
Cheers John
JeffRae said
07:36 PM Jul 20, 2017
Ooops, wrong spot
-- Edited by JeffRae on Thursday 20th of July 2017 08:04:20 PM
macka17 said
10:41 PM Jul 20, 2017
Mine runs van and Aircond. on ECO. Also 2 x houses on ECO. Just turn off eco for Air Cond. 8.2. Ticks over nicely. 2 x 6.5vans with 1 Air cond running. ECO.
Bigger units are better for economy and probably longer lasting. I had prev genny for near 30 yrs Honda powered. House. Yacht and caravans. But 1.8 (1.5 constant) in a normal 1 kva usage. Hence the longevity. NEVER fully loaded.
IE.
My current 3.5 constant. 6 to 7 yrs now. $400ish.
= 6yrs plus x4.
24 MIN, yrs for $2000 price Honda, Virtually Guaranteed.
and still running.
with either, more avail power. Or at much reduced loads.
MUCH better, more sensible usage of money in my eyes.
That's the way I look at it anyway.
IT IS RED. so halfway there hey. Chuckle.
-- Edited by macka17 on Thursday 20th of July 2017 10:51:36 PM
Mike Harding said
07:49 PM Jul 21, 2017
macka17 wrote:
Mine runs van and Aircond. on ECO. Also 2 x houses on ECO. Just turn off eco for Air Cond. 8.2. Ticks over nicely. 2 x 6.5vans with 1 Air cond running. ECO.
Bigger units are better for economy and probably longer lasting. I had prev genny for near 30 yrs Honda powered. House. Yacht and caravans. But 1.8 (1.5 constant) in a normal 1 kva usage. Hence the longevity. NEVER fully loaded.
IE.
My current 3.5 constant. 6 to 7 yrs now. $400ish.
= 6yrs plus x4.
24 MIN, yrs for $2000 price Honda, Virtually Guaranteed.
and still running.
with either, more avail power. Or at much reduced loads.
MUCH better, more sensible usage of money in my eyes.
That's the way I look at it anyway.
IT IS RED. so halfway there hey. Chuckle.
-- Edited by macka17 on Thursday 20th of July 2017 10:51:36 PM
And you people who run this forum consider this to be a useful post?
You are quick to delete or close posts which you consider may have a hint of conflict - I would call that discussion - but you allow and encourage this drivel.
Your forum, your money, your rules, your - eventual - loss.
boab said
10:03 PM Jul 21, 2017
agree 100% Mike Harding Macka17 should have a name change to FIGJAM
Eaglemax said
10:56 PM Jul 21, 2017
Common guys. I might have a little difficult deciphering Macka's posts sometimes but thats him and we are all indivudual with various levels of vocabulary and differences in expression. No need to be nasty. You do have a choice to skip posts from membets....not that hard.
macka17 said
11:50 AM Jul 22, 2017
Thank you Mr Civilised. (open minded)
SOME would see it for what it is. An alternative (everything has one.) to. Costing less. with more output. and potentially longer life for less costs.
Just giving alternatives to those that rave on about this 1.8kva Honda. NOT all want. or can afford them.
Some on here are neither "cashed up". nor want to spend as much.
Look at me as a version of E'Bay hey.
Lot's of alternative choices for similar items. chuckle.
Not all are unhappy. Miserable. One eyed about subjects.
and you must admit. Since my implant and reduction of drugs. i don't ramble so much. (Well. Not quite as much hey, giggle)
'Ave a gud won. EVERYBODY......I DO.
PS.
Editing.
Cindy IS keeping an eye on me.
Deleted one a coupla days ago. Smack Smack.
-- Edited by macka17 on Saturday 22nd of July 2017 11:52:08 AM
, battery charger ect. Hope this helps you.
We use a honda Eu20i as well and it runs our Ibis2 aircon even on 39 deg days.
the secret is to have a short a lead as possible and made of heavy duty 15A flex.
Frank
Ditto from us EU20i, Jayco Journey Outback 2015.
Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Wednesday 19th of July 2017 09:27:05 PM
We also have the Honda EU20i, our roof aircon is a different brand, but I do not think that there is much difference in them
Some tend to Use the 2.2\3\4? kw Yamaha one instead.
Similar price. same reliability.
Much more power.
Others again use selected Chinese ones for yrs with NO problems
Me for one,
After changing up from a Honda Under\powered for Air cond unit.
(Did have for 20+ yrs for cost of 2 renewed Solenoids only.
Look around a bit. The extra $1500 plus change,
will buy quite a few useful items too.
IE Several panels, Battery. Regulator.
TOTAL Independance..
My 3.8\3.5 float runs 2 houses and My Aircond.
or 2 vans with 1 x aircond. Comfortably.
for costing of around $400 del. 6 or 7 yrs. 3 Cyclones. Never missed a beat.
Just another Alternative for some that may not know of..
The reply I got from Honda when I couldn't run our Heron
Take your van and test the Honda first
"Hello Jeff,
The minimum recommended generator capacity for any Aircommand unit is 2.8Kva and the gen set should deliver the smoothest possible sine wave.
There has never been a heron 2.2 designed specifically to run on a Honda 2.
Rotary compressors as used in our air conditioners, are just like motor car engines for example. They are manufactured to a dimensional tolerance, thus some are slightly tighter than others which may account for some people being able to run a Honda 2 successfully.
The risk however is that in demandingly hot weather, any gen set will lose some efficiency and the air conditioner will require a bigger kick start in the same conditions. This leaves the customer at risk of being disappointed when they need the air conditioner most.
Hopefully this explains sufficiently why we recommend nothing less than a 2.8Kva gen set dedicated solely to the air conditioner with nothing else drawing from it, not even a battery charger.
Should you have further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards, Colin Bates.
Service / Warranty Office"
-- Edited by JeffRae on Thursday 20th of July 2017 03:59:43 PM
and my Chinee is 3.5 constant.
Mine runs 2 houses when Cyclone comes through.
with us all in mine with Air Cond running.
Only problem the first time we did it.
The ONLY house in street with lights on.
Guess where ALL the fly's and insects congregated??.
For 4 1\2 days
ALL blinds closed during, thereafter.
IF you going to have one. Think about ALL possible. Sensible, uses for.
And buy to suit.
Welder would be nice. But even my Inverter one takes 6.5kva Min.
Can't have it all hey
The secret is run the genny for a few minutes to get things going, set your AC on low fan and don't turn the dial all the way to freeze, turn it on then let it all fire up and run for a little bit before turning the dial to cooler, do it in steps allowing everything to settle in before turning it a bit more and increasing the fan speed, then your not slamming your genny hard right from the start, that applies to any genny really.
That's an very good tip
Would solve a lot of problems for many people
Cheers John
Ooops, wrong spot
-- Edited by JeffRae on Thursday 20th of July 2017 08:04:20 PM
Mine runs van and Aircond. on ECO.
Also 2 x houses on ECO. Just turn off eco for Air Cond. 8.2.
Ticks over nicely.
2 x 6.5vans with 1 Air cond running. ECO.
Bigger units are better for economy and probably longer lasting.
I had prev genny for near 30 yrs Honda powered.
House. Yacht and caravans.
But 1.8 (1.5 constant) in a normal 1 kva usage.
Hence the longevity. NEVER fully loaded.
IE.
My current 3.5 constant. 6 to 7 yrs now. $400ish.
= 6yrs plus x4.
24 MIN, yrs for $2000 price Honda, Virtually Guaranteed.
and still running.
with either, more avail power. Or at much reduced loads.
MUCH better, more sensible usage of money in my eyes.
That's the way I look at it anyway.
IT IS RED. so halfway there hey. Chuckle.
-- Edited by macka17 on Thursday 20th of July 2017 10:51:36 PM
And you people who run this forum consider this to be a useful post?
You are quick to delete or close posts which you consider may have a hint of conflict - I would call that discussion - but you allow and encourage this drivel.
Your forum, your money, your rules, your - eventual - loss.
Thank you Mr Civilised. (open minded)
SOME would see it for what it is.
An alternative (everything has one.) to.
Costing less. with more output.
and potentially longer life for less costs.
Just giving alternatives to those that rave on about this 1.8kva Honda.
NOT all want. or can afford them.
Some on here are neither "cashed up".
nor want to spend as much.
Look at me as a version of E'Bay hey.
Lot's of alternative choices for similar items. chuckle.
Not all are unhappy. Miserable. One eyed about subjects.
and you must admit.
Since my implant and reduction of drugs.
i don't ramble so much. (Well. Not quite as much hey, giggle)
'Ave a gud won. EVERYBODY......I DO.
PS.
Editing.
Cindy IS keeping an eye on me.
Deleted one a coupla days ago. Smack Smack.
-- Edited by macka17 on Saturday 22nd of July 2017 11:52:08 AM