I need some advice re exhaust jacks. Bushranger have two models. One sells for around $200 and can only be inflated from the vehicle exhaust (Model 72x04). The other (called the x-jack - model 72x10) sells for around $340 and can be inflated with the exhaust or a compressor. Both have a 75 cm lift and are rated to lift up to 4 tonnes. Any opinions on the pros and cons of each? Any other brands worth a look?
Mike Harding said
02:50 PM Jul 23, 2017
My advice is don't buy one.
Exhaust jacks are great in theory and terrible in practice.
If the vehicle is bogged to the chassis how do you get the bag under it? Consider, for a moment, the attraction of lying in the mud poking the bag under the vehicle....
Where do you put the bag? How can you be sure it will inflate under the sections of the vehicle which can take the weight?
How do you ensure it's not under a sharp edge?
What condition is your exhaust system in? When you get the back pressure created by (say) one ton of vehicle will your exhaust system handle or will it blast out via a partially corroded section?
And if the vehicle is not bogged to the chassis you can get a scissors or bottle jack under it with *much* less fuss. Make/carry a jacking plate for scissors/bottle jack; 450mm x 450mm x 15mm plywood. I use a slightly different size which doubles up beautifully as a tray for eating from by the camp fire.
Anyway; don't buy a new exhaust jack... I have an almost new, used only once, one you can have.
Spend just a little more cash on a Tirfor (or good copy), a snatch block, tree trunk protector, extension strap and a few shackles. That *will* get you out of grief.
Explorer said
03:26 PM Jul 23, 2017
adkel53 wrote:
I need some advice re exhaust jacks. Bushranger have two models. One sells for around $200 and can only be inflated from the vehicle exhaust (Model 72x04). The other (called the x-jack - model 72x10) sells for around $340 and can be inflated with the exhaust or a compressor. Both have a 75 cm lift and are rated to lift up to 4 tonnes. Any opinions on the pros and cons of each? Any other brands worth a look?
Hi, I would save $140 & go for the exhaust only or look on e-bay. The best would be to take up the offer of a free one. The biggest problem is the bulkiness of them. I mainly travel solo & a lot to the deserts. Have only used mine twice, once in the Great Victoria Desert would have probably waited 2 days for another vehicle to come along to attach my winch rope. A square of carpet is a must for sharp edges, the exhaust needs to be square at the outlet. They are good in sand & I try & steer clear of mud.
Enjoy Your travels.
Mike.
T1 Terry said
04:06 PM Jul 23, 2017
Mike Harding wrote:
My advice is don't buy one.
Exhaust jacks are great in theory and terrible in practice.
If the vehicle is bogged to the chassis how do you get the bag under it? Consider, for a moment, the attraction of lying in the mud poking the bag under the vehicle....
Where do you put the bag? How can you be sure it will inflate under the sections of the vehicle which can take the weight?
How do you ensure it's not under a sharp edge?
What condition is your exhaust system in? When you get the back pressure created by (say) one ton of vehicle will your exhaust system handle or will it blast out via a partially corroded section?
And if the vehicle is not bogged to the chassis you can get a scissors or bottle jack under it with *much* less fuss. Make/carry a jacking plate for scissors/bottle jack; 450mm x 450mm x 15mm plywood. I use a slightly different size which doubles up beautifully as a tray for eating from by the camp fire.
Anyway; don't buy a new exhaust jack... I have an almost new, used only once, one you can have.
Spend just a little more cash on a Tirfor (or good copy), a snatch block, tree trunk protector, extension strap and a few shackles. That *will* get you out of grief.
Can I please be next in line for the free exhaust bag jack? Happy to pay postage and something towards the packing as well if that bumps me up the queue
T1 Terry
Mike Harding said
06:58 PM Jul 23, 2017
T1 Terry wrote:Can I please be next in line for the free exhaust bag jack? Happy to pay postage and something towards the packing as well if that bumps me up the queue
T1 Terry
Only on condition you stop trying to promote lithium batteries on this forum as if they are the best (indeed better) thing since well before sliced bread.
Baz421 said
08:22 PM Jul 23, 2017
I wouldn't buy another one at all.
My prev 4WD was a 3 litre petrol Pajero and I had a quality bag with mat to ensure it was not punctured etc etc.
The Pajero had to be revved so high (forget but say 4000RPM) and really struggled to lift,,,,, easy to stall if I recall.
If serious about buying get a demo on YOUR VEHICLE would be my suggestion.
-- Edited by Baz421 on Sunday 23rd of July 2017 08:24:25 PM
landy said
09:56 PM Jul 23, 2017
Hi I used to carry one and it got me out of trouble a number of times. As mike and others have said you must be careful of sharp corners they are easily cut and if you blow an exhaust pipe or gasket it could be an expensive repair.That being said I had no trouble and would use one again.
goldcoaster said
05:37 AM Jul 24, 2017
I have one for sale on Gumtree , Easylift Exhaust Jack , $50 , I've never used it , still pumps up and holds pressure . Easylift , don't know what it's rated at , had it for about 10 years , not sure where I got it from but used to keep it in my recovery box.
Cheers
Mick
Grandad5 said
10:34 AM Jul 24, 2017
Ti Terry.....When the time comes to do my lithium install I will happily buy you a brand new exhaust jack in return for all the free help and advice you have given me and many others over the years.
(posted in the interest of balance)
Jim
-- Edited by Grandad5 on Monday 24th of July 2017 10:35:25 AM
T1 Terry said
11:05 AM Jul 24, 2017
I want it for the workshop so I can easily lift each wheel set on each side of a caravan or 5ér so I can put a set of skates under them to reposition a van that is not playing the game when trying to get it in the workshop. Not sure I could not say how good lithium batteries functioned compared to lead acid batteries when it comes to house battery use, that is a very high price to pay
T1 Terry
adkel53 said
01:41 PM Jul 24, 2017
Thanks for the advice. I need the jack more for use with my Mars Spirit off road camper (independent coil spring suspension) than for my Prado. The camper did not come with a jack and the best Mars could suggest (after first telling me to use the stabiliser legs) is to use the Prado jack under the plate that sits under the springs. I would rather something that doesn't require me to get half way under the camper to use. My local ARB store suggested the exhaust jack over a hi lift one (if one would fit the camper) on the grounds of safety, weight and bulkiness. The air jack could also be useful if bogged in sand as It could be used to lift the vehicle to allow sand boards to be employed and to make shovelling easier.
Mike Harding said
07:34 PM Jul 24, 2017
Sorry all - free offer gone.
Exhaust jack sold for $40 - and I was going to throw it away....
goldcoaster said
05:59 AM Jul 25, 2017
Mike Harding wrote:
Sorry all - free offer gone.
Exhaust jack sold for $40 - and I was going to throw it away....
Mine is still for sale , I'll match $40.
T1 Terry said
12:24 PM Jul 25, 2017
goldcoaster wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
Sorry all - free offer gone.
Exhaust jack sold for $40 - and I was going to throw it away....
Mine is still for sale , I'll match $40.
Send me a PM regarding postage costs to Mannum 5238 and I'll send off the $$
T1 Terry
Big Mal said
08:13 PM Jul 25, 2017
Had one for years, a prize, found it to be a pain mostly, needed mat to protect it, has to be in a position where i doesn't damage stuff, eg: exhaust, fuel tank etc and it is possible the vehicle will move sideways, mongrel to pack up after.
Aus-Kiwi said
08:48 PM Jul 25, 2017
Yet possibly come in handy ?Depending what sort of terrain you travel etc ..
beej said
11:19 PM Jul 29, 2017
advice given to me was not to use on on late model common rail turbo vehicles or anything running egr systems or dpf filters due to inducing engine faults and codes.Have others heard of this?cheers beej
Mike Harding said
08:35 PM Jul 30, 2017
beej wrote:
advice given to me was not to use on on late model common rail turbo vehicles or anything running egr systems or dpf filters due to inducing engine faults and codes.Have others heard of this?cheers beej
No, but it sounds very plausible given the amount of engine parameters the engine management computer monitors.
I need some advice re exhaust jacks. Bushranger have two models. One sells for around $200 and can only be inflated from the vehicle exhaust (Model 72x04). The other (called the x-jack - model 72x10) sells for around $340 and can be inflated with the exhaust or a compressor. Both have a 75 cm lift and are rated to lift up to 4 tonnes. Any opinions on the pros and cons of each? Any other brands worth a look?
My advice is don't buy one.
Exhaust jacks are great in theory and terrible in practice.
If the vehicle is bogged to the chassis how do you get the bag under
it? Consider, for a moment, the attraction of lying in the mud poking
the bag under the vehicle....
Where do you put the bag? How can you be sure it will inflate under
the sections of the vehicle which can take the weight?
How do you ensure it's not under a sharp edge?
What condition is your exhaust system in? When you get the back
pressure created by (say) one ton of vehicle will your exhaust system
handle or will it blast out via a partially corroded section?
And if the vehicle is not bogged to the chassis you can get a
scissors or bottle jack under it with *much* less fuss. Make/carry a
jacking plate for scissors/bottle jack; 450mm x 450mm x 15mm plywood.
I use a slightly different size which doubles up beautifully as a
tray for eating from by the camp fire.
Anyway; don't buy a new exhaust jack... I have an almost new, used
only once, one you can have.
Spend just a little more cash on a Tirfor (or good copy), a snatch
block, tree trunk protector, extension strap and a few shackles. That
*will* get you out of grief.
Hi, I would save $140 & go for the exhaust only or look on e-bay. The best would be to take up the offer of a free one. The biggest problem is the bulkiness of them. I mainly travel solo & a lot to the deserts. Have only used mine twice, once in the Great Victoria Desert would have probably waited 2 days for another vehicle to come along to attach my winch rope. A square of carpet is a must for sharp edges, the exhaust needs to be square at the outlet. They are good in sand & I try & steer clear of mud.
Enjoy Your travels.
Mike.
Can I please be next in line for the free exhaust bag jack? Happy to pay postage and something towards the packing as well if that bumps me up the queue
T1 Terry
Only on condition you stop trying to promote lithium batteries on this forum as if they are the best (indeed better) thing since well before sliced bread.
I wouldn't buy another one at all.
My prev 4WD was a 3 litre petrol Pajero and I had a quality bag with mat to ensure it was not punctured etc etc.
The Pajero had to be revved so high (forget but say 4000RPM) and really struggled to lift,,,,, easy to stall if I recall.
If serious about buying get a demo on YOUR VEHICLE would be my suggestion.
-- Edited by Baz421 on Sunday 23rd of July 2017 08:24:25 PM
Cheers
Mick
Ti Terry.....When the time comes to do my lithium install I will happily buy you a brand new exhaust jack in return for all the free help and advice you have given me and many others over the years.
(posted in the interest of balance)
Jim
-- Edited by Grandad5 on Monday 24th of July 2017 10:35:25 AM
I want it for the workshop so I can easily lift each wheel set on each side of a caravan or 5ér so I can put a set of skates under them to reposition a van that is not playing the game when trying to get it in the workshop.
Not sure I could not say how good lithium batteries functioned compared to lead acid batteries when it comes to house battery use, that is a very high price to pay
T1 Terry
Sorry all - free offer gone.
Exhaust jack sold for $40 - and I was going to throw it away....
Mine is still for sale , I'll match $40.
Send me a PM regarding postage costs to Mannum 5238 and I'll send off the $$
T1 Terry
No, but it sounds very plausible given the amount of engine parameters the engine management computer monitors.