As seen in my "the weight situation" thread I need to do some research as to what tug to replace Pajero with. Twin cab, canopy, diesel auto, leaf or coil etc. Comments welcome.
Aussie Paul.
blaze said
08:30 PM Jan 31, 2018
series 3 or 4 discovery
cheers
blaze
Barboots said
09:45 PM Jan 31, 2018
Rough spending allowance?
Any criteria other than handling your van?
Possum3 said
10:04 PM Jan 31, 2018
Paul, I'm a Patrol (diesel) convert I used to have Pajero's but changed to Patrols in 98 after they corrected weak front diff. I like the patrol because of all the whizz-bang traction control gear as standard, and it is very comfortable, easy access (dicky leg). I've had two now this 2013 one now will most probably be the last unless we win Lotto. If money wasn't a worry I would go for a 70 series Toyota - www.toyota.com.au/landcruiser-70/range But that's the only Toyota I would have. The 100 series cruisers are pretty reliable if going second hand.
aussie_paul said
10:17 PM Jan 31, 2018
Barboots wrote:
Rough spending allowance? Any criteria other than handling your van?
Would not like to spend more than $10k change over preferably less. Has to be auto and reasonably easy to enter & exit. Would luke twin cab.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Wednesday 31st of January 2018 10:24:15 PM
Possum3 said
10:42 PM Jan 31, 2018
Paul, Looking at Redbook your vehicle www.redbook.com.au/cars/research/used/details/2010-mitsubishi-pajero-glx-nt-manual-4x4-my10/SPOT-ITM-258709 Doesn't give much room if you only spend $10K . The 24ft Jayco Sterling with batteries, solar and Genset is going to limit your choice - Personally, I believe your rig should be towed with a full ladder chassis vehicle - I don't know enough about the Ütes to consider a recommendation, particularly if Auto transmission is a must do.
rockylizard said
10:23 AM Feb 1, 2018
blaze wrote:
series 3 or 4 discovery cheers blaze
Gday...
As a very happy LR Discovery 3 owner I understand your comment/advice ... however, OP's question was -
As seen in my "the weight situation" thread I need to do some research as to what tug to replace Pajero with. Twin cab, canopy, diesel auto, leaf or coil etc. Comments welcome.
Aussie Paul.
Hi Paul...If you refer to the Weight Situation thread,you will see my thoughts there.All my suggestions were
based on you not having to spend much on changeover,but if you have $10k to add to the sale price of the
Pajero,you have far more choices.The Land Rovers look OK,but you may be able to get an older 4.2 litre
Patrol....as my note said,if you want Auto,DO NOT look at a 3 litre Patrol,as they can tow only 2500kg.
Good luck with your search.
Cheers
aussie_paul said
11:21 AM Feb 1, 2018
rockylizard wrote:
blaze wrote:
series 3 or 4 discovery cheers blaze
Gday...
As a very happy LR Discovery 3 owner I understand your comment/advice ... however, OP's question was -
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Thursday 1st of February 2018 11:23:14 AM
blaze said
12:33 PM Feb 1, 2018
Suppose it can be read lots of ways, I tow with a range rover, p38 and love it but the disco get rave reviews as the best tow vehicle and are in the price range. Cant understand why people would buy a vehicle that are designed (poorly) as a work vehicle when they are touring. Then spend a couple of thousand putting a canapy on them to turn them into a wanta be station wagon . I know, each to there own but when people ask questions I will if I desire, state my thoughts. Best of luck in persuit of your vehicle of choice
cheers
blaze
aussie_paul said
01:19 PM Feb 1, 2018
blaze wrote:
Suppose it can be read lots of ways, I tow with a range rover, p38 and love it but the disco get rave reviews as the best tow vehicle and are in the price range. Cant understand why people would buy a vehicle that are designed (poorly) as a work vehicle when they are touring. Then spend a couple of thousand putting a canapy on them to turn them into a wanta be station wagon . I know, each to there own but when people ask questions I will if I desire, state my thoughts. Best of luck in persuit of your vehicle of choice cheers blaze
Thanks blaze.
Aussie Paul.
patrol03 said
08:39 PM Feb 1, 2018
Hi Paul, I do not know what situation is concerning the weight you tow or your financial situation but remember two basic things when towing...you can't beat cubic capacity or brake horsepower. Remember many of the tow vehicles towing large caravans on the road are under powered. Economy is good to have but comfort and safety on the open road is paramount.Bear this in mind when you make your personal choice . Because a particular vehicle is advertised as having a particular towing capacity and a high lowball weight does not make it suitable for all situations.
Warren-Pat_01 said
09:28 PM Feb 1, 2018
Aussie Paul, Yobarr has mentioned the 4.2L Patrol but I saw that you wanted an auto. Unless the car has been modified, the 4.2L Patrols are manual only.
Like many others in this forum, I'm on my second 4.2 & my third Patrol in 33 years - the first was the 3.3L diesel. All were bought 2nd (or more) hand.
I have two friends with 100 Series TLCs. They can be expensive to buy & one friend was shocked that his 2005 model Cruiser had a lot of rust in it - when he changed the windscreen.
Telstra changed to Patrols during the reign of the 80 Series TLC because of two reasons - reliability & cost. Broken transmissions in isolated areas were not nice. From what I've heard the 100 Series was improved.
There are many vehicles out there to consider, I hope you find a good vehicle.
Dickodownunder said
09:29 PM Feb 1, 2018
patrol03 wrote:
Hi Paul, I do not know what situation is concerning the weight you tow or your financial situation but remember two basic things when towing...you can't beat cubic capacity or brake horsepower. Remember many of the tow vehicles towing large caravans on the road are under powered. Economy is good to have but comfort and safety on the open road is paramount.Bear this in mind when you make your personal choice . Because a particular vehicle is advertised as having a particular towing capacity and a high lowball weight does not make it suitable for all situations.
Absolutely some great points and my thoughts are comfort as well.
I know that the LC 200 series maybe out of your specifications and requirements and this vehicle is not what you originally specified in your enquiring post, however, i have one and it is the only vehicle that I have ever owned, ever, that I can step out of in three or four hours of driving and actually walk without limping, staggering, and favouring one leg or the other until I regain composure.
IMO this goes a long way to balancing the cost of the vehicle.
Paul I am not saying that you wont gain this advantage from other makes of vehicles but to me, it makes an enormous difference in my comfort on the drive.
Good luck with your final choice..
oldbloke said
11:18 PM Feb 1, 2018
Paul, on the other tread you say. "The van weight whilst connected to Pajero with WDH fitted was 2700kg, the car was 2900kg, and the ball weight was 320kg."
I have a three year old Triton, 3t towing limit and 300kg on the ball, so they are out for you.
denmonkey said
10:58 PM Feb 3, 2018
just throwing it out there, but any reason that change over money couldn't be thrown at the pajero for a suspension gvm upgrade? I'm not sure if there is something that will get you over the 300kg ball weight but they come pretty close from initial searching.
The link below was the first cab of the rank from a google search.
http://www.climaxsuspension.com.au/gvmpajero.php
Might be worth checking out before cashing in your chips on a new tug....might be cheaper too
aussie_paul said
10:59 AM Feb 4, 2018
It is beginning to look like a Pajero suspension upgrade might be the go. If I can get the van more balanced and not have to carry genset or fuel in the tug then Pajero still workable. Probably the cheapest and the "devil you know" scenario.
Aussie Paul.
iana said
12:34 PM Feb 4, 2018
Paul, you have a similar length/weight of van to what we own, the bigger the van, the more (she) you will fit into it, I'm towing with a BT50, and am sweating over the weights, but as far as I am concerned, the only important figure, is the "combined mass" allowance of the tow vehicle, if you are over that then you are stuffed. I don't recall reading the figures of the Pajero. Your tug for safety sakes needs to be heavier than the van, by what percentage I don't know, I say that because you say "and not have to carry the genset or fuel in the tug", which possibly means you are transferring these to the van. I have not brought a generator, WDH, or Bull bars, as I need to keep the weight down. When I looked at having an up-grade to the BT50 suspension, I was told at the time that the CVM could not be changed. I have since learnt, on this forum it can be but I suspect at an enormous expense. Good luck with your exercise, but tread carefully.
Just another thing I thought of, and that is, I was told, any mods done on the suspension, need to be nationally certified, not just state certified, unless of course you don't intend traveling inter-state.
-- Edited by iana on Sunday 4th of February 2018 03:54:49 PM
T1 Terry said
03:19 PM Feb 5, 2018
aussie_paul wrote:
It is beginning to look like a Pajero suspension upgrade might be the go. If I can get the van more balanced and not have to carry genset or fuel in the tug then Pajero still workable. Probably the cheapest and the "devil you know" scenario.
Aussie Paul.
..... then use the money saved to upgrade to lithium batteries and maybe a bit more solar so you don't need the generator at all and you reduce the van weight
T1 Terry
montie said
02:05 PM Feb 8, 2018
T1 Terry wrote:
aussie_paul wrote:
It is beginning to look like a Pajero suspension upgrade might be the go. If I can get the van more balanced and not have to carry genset or fuel in the tug then Pajero still workable. Probably the cheapest and the "devil you know" scenario.
Aussie Paul.
..... then use the money saved to upgrade to lithium batteries and maybe a bit more solar so you don't need the generator at all and you reduce the van weight
T1 Terry
Hi Terry,
Haven't heard from you in ages!
Good to see you back posting
T1 Terry said
02:16 PM Feb 8, 2018
montie wrote:
T1 Terry wrote:
aussie_paul wrote:
It is beginning to look like a Pajero suspension upgrade might be the go. If I can get the van more balanced and not have to carry genset or fuel in the tug then Pajero still workable. Probably the cheapest and the "devil you know" scenario.
Aussie Paul.
..... then use the money saved to upgrade to lithium batteries and maybe a bit more solar so you don't need the generator at all and you reduce the van weight
T1 Terry
Hi Terry,
Haven't heard from you in ages!
Good to see you back posting
Hello Monty, or is it Montie? Would you be the Monty from the CF? He was an RV reseller if I remember correctly .... and the chances of that happening lately are becoming a rare thing indeed :lol:
T1 Terry
montie said
02:42 PM Feb 8, 2018
T1 Terry wrote:
montie wrote:
T1 Terry wrote:
aussie_paul wrote:
It is beginning to look like a Pajero suspension upgrade might be the go. If I can get the van more balanced and not have to carry genset or fuel in the tug then Pajero still workable. Probably the cheapest and the "devil you know" scenario.
Aussie Paul.
..... then use the money saved to upgrade to lithium batteries and maybe a bit more solar so you don't need the generator at all and you reduce the van weight
T1 Terry
Hi Terry,
Haven't heard from you in ages!
Good to see you back posting
Hello Monty, or is it Montie? Would you be the Monty from the CF? He was an RV reseller if I remember correctly .... and the chances of that happening lately are becoming a rare thing indeed :lol:
T1 Terry
One and the same Terry!
T1 Terry said
03:21 PM Feb 8, 2018
I trode on a few too many toes over there and got myself banned for life, and maybe the next life too if I get reincarnated :lol: I even got my name into the dirty word list so it was replaced with ****** so I became "That man in Mannum SA" cause that is where we live now and Margaret bought me a big workshop over here as well.
T1 Terry
aussie_paul said
07:28 PM Feb 8, 2018
T1 Terry wrote:
aussie_paul wrote:
..... then use the money saved to upgrade to lithium batteries and maybe a bit more solar so you don't need the generator at all and you reduce the van weight
T1 Terry
lol, good try Terry, eventually you will get me as a customer I reckon.
As seen in my "the weight situation" thread I need to do some research as to what tug to replace Pajero with. Twin cab, canopy, diesel auto, leaf or coil etc. Comments welcome.
Aussie Paul.
cheers
blaze
Would not like to spend more than $10k change over preferably less. Has to be auto and reasonably easy to enter & exit. Would luke twin cab.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Wednesday 31st of January 2018 10:24:15 PM
Gday...
"replace Pajero with. Twin cab, canopy, diesel auto, leaf or coil"
Cheers - John
Hi Paul...If you refer to the Weight Situation thread,you will see my thoughts there.All my suggestions were
based on you not having to spend much on changeover,but if you have $10k to add to the sale price of the
Pajero,you have far more choices.The Land Rovers look OK,but you may be able to get an older 4.2 litre
Patrol....as my note said,if you want Auto,DO NOT look at a 3 litre Patrol,as they can tow only 2500kg.
Good luck with your search.
Cheers
Hi John, I should have put a question mark after that sentence!!!
"replace Pajero with. Twin cab, canopy, diesel auto, leaf or coil"?
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Thursday 1st of February 2018 11:23:14 AM
cheers
blaze
Thanks blaze.
Aussie Paul.
Like many others in this forum, I'm on my second 4.2 & my third Patrol in 33 years - the first was the 3.3L diesel. All were bought 2nd (or more) hand.
I have two friends with 100 Series TLCs. They can be expensive to buy & one friend was shocked that his 2005 model Cruiser had a lot of rust in it - when he changed the windscreen.
Telstra changed to Patrols during the reign of the 80 Series TLC because of two reasons - reliability & cost. Broken transmissions in isolated areas were not nice. From what I've heard the 100 Series was improved.
There are many vehicles out there to consider, I hope you find a good vehicle.
Absolutely some great points and my thoughts are comfort as well.
I know that the LC 200 series maybe out of your specifications and requirements and this vehicle is not what you originally specified in your enquiring post, however, i have one and it is the only vehicle that I have ever owned, ever, that I can step out of in three or four hours of driving and actually walk without limping, staggering, and favouring one leg or the other until I regain composure.
IMO this goes a long way to balancing the cost of the vehicle.
Paul I am not saying that you wont gain this advantage from other makes of vehicles but to me, it makes an enormous difference in my comfort on the drive.
Good luck with your final choice..
I have a three year old Triton, 3t towing limit and 300kg on the ball, so they are out for you.
just throwing it out there, but any reason that change over money couldn't be thrown at the pajero for a suspension gvm upgrade?
I'm not sure if there is something that will get you over the 300kg ball weight but they come pretty close from initial searching.
The link below was the first cab of the rank from a google search.
http://www.climaxsuspension.com.au/gvmpajero.php
Might be worth checking out before cashing in your chips on a new tug....might be cheaper too
It is beginning to look like a Pajero suspension upgrade might be the go. If I can get the van more balanced and not have to carry genset or fuel in the tug then Pajero still workable. Probably the cheapest and the "devil you know" scenario.
Aussie Paul.
Paul, you have a similar length/weight of van to what we own, the bigger the van, the more (she) you will fit into it, I'm towing with a BT50, and am sweating over the weights, but as far as I am concerned, the only important figure, is the "combined mass" allowance of the tow vehicle, if you are over that then you are stuffed. I don't recall reading the figures of the Pajero.
Your tug for safety sakes needs to be heavier than the van, by what percentage I don't know, I say that because you say "and not have to carry the genset or fuel in the tug", which possibly means you are transferring these to the van.
I have not brought a generator, WDH, or Bull bars, as I need to keep the weight down.
When I looked at having an up-grade to the BT50 suspension, I was told at the time that the CVM could not be changed. I have since learnt, on this forum it can be but I suspect at an enormous expense.
Good luck with your exercise, but tread carefully.
Just another thing I thought of, and that is, I was told, any mods done on the suspension, need to be nationally certified, not just state certified, unless of course you don't intend traveling inter-state.
-- Edited by iana on Sunday 4th of February 2018 03:54:49 PM
..... then use the money saved to upgrade to lithium batteries and maybe a bit more solar so you don't need the generator at all and you reduce the van weight
T1 Terry
Hi Terry,
Haven't heard from you in ages!
Good to see you back posting
Hello Monty, or is it Montie? Would you be the Monty from the CF? He was an RV reseller if I remember correctly .... and the chances of that happening lately are becoming a rare thing indeed :lol:
T1 Terry
One and the same Terry!
T1 Terry
lol, good try Terry,
eventually you will get me as a customer I reckon.
Aussie Paul.