Just bought a new Mu-X but they have two small extra seats in the back takeing up space needed for draws and camping gear there easily removed,the cars registered in NSW ,anyone here have a similar car that might know of any legalities ,there not structural as far as I can see, just a few set screws and there out....
Possum3 said
08:45 AM Sep 22, 2018
Technically you are converting the vehicle carrying capacity as specified on your VIN - You are legally required to have car re-engineered to remove seats, then notify Services NSW of modifications..
rockylizard said
09:12 AM Sep 22, 2018
Gday...
Ali El-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan, Ron shows his location as Victoria ... if that is correct, VicRoads does not require any approval certification if removal of the third row seats leaves up to 9 remaining seats.
However, I would check wif Vicroads face-to-face to be sure.
Cheers - John
rgren2 said
11:01 AM Sep 22, 2018
Take the seats out but leave the seatbelts. Patrol owners have been doing this for years.
Warren-Pat_01 said
12:21 PM Sep 22, 2018
I've taken the rear seats out of my three Patrols & refitted them when I've sold (two). The current ones will go back in when my GU goes.
There has been the odd occasion when relatives have visited that I've had to put them back in. Having to get the compliance plate modified each time would be a pain in the neck.
It is for this reason & the fact that holes in the panels will show that a friend bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee but the car is too small & too limited for my liking.
PeterD said
10:34 PM Sep 22, 2018
Some cases depend upon whether you need tools to remove them or not. I would check with RMS and when you do advise them if you can do the removal with or without tools. In some jurisdictions, it is permissible to remove seats temporarily if tools are not needed to do the job.
The bottom line is - ask RMS.
Ron-D said
08:48 AM Sep 23, 2018
There held in with set screws Peter and there already removed ,there not structural,there stupid things in my view unless your carrying around a tribe of kids. From what I can garner so far its ok to remove them ,provided your not carrying seven people in the car... theres a bit of on the net that suggests its no problem removeing them in nsw ,but I will check with the rta,If theres any problems I will bolt them back in I posted this wondering if anyone on the site had removed there seats just curious...
-- Edited by Ron-D on Sunday 23rd of September 2018 02:56:22 PM
rgren2 said
11:04 AM Sep 23, 2018
The seats have been out of my Patrol fo 8 years, I still have them. The Patrol has an engineering certificate for the motor, the engineer didnt worry about the seats, the retractable seatbelts are still in.
Moose2 said
11:51 AM Sep 23, 2018
I'm in NSW. So long as those seats and seat belts are out then it just gets registered as a 5 seater instead of 7. No engineering required.
Ron-D said
02:43 PM Sep 23, 2018
rgren2 wrote:
The seats have been out of my Patrol fo 8 years, I still have them. The Patrol has an engineering certificate for the motor, the engineer didnt worry about the seats, the retractable seatbelts are still in.
Thanks for your reply rgren but I will still check with the rta imagine if your insurance used this as an excuse not to pay up...
Ron-D said
02:50 PM Sep 23, 2018
Moose2 wrote:
I'm in NSW. So long as those seats and seat belts are out then it just gets registered as a 5 seater instead of 7. No engineering required.
That means I will have to contact the rta and have it re registered ,and contact them again when the car is sold to put it back to a 7 seater yep will check with the rta and see whats involved if it costs a mint the seats go back in,Iam going a bit over the top probably but with my luck ,In case of an accident I dont want give the insurance a chance not to pay or have other legal problems....
-- Edited by Ron-D on Sunday 23rd of September 2018 03:03:58 PM
rgren2 said
06:24 PM Sep 23, 2018
Ron-D wrote:
rgren2 wrote:
The seats have been out of my Patrol fo 8 years, I still have them. The Patrol has an engineering certificate for the motor, the engineer didnt worry about the seats, the retractable seatbelts are still in.
Thanks for your reply rgren but I will still check with the rta imagine if your insurance used this as an excuse not to pay up...
I talk to insurance every year, ask about everything, time and date it and get the persons name and number. Think Ive got it covered.
Just bought a new Mu-X but they have two small extra seats in the back takeing up space needed for draws and camping gear there easily removed,the cars registered in NSW ,anyone here have a similar car that might know of any legalities ,there not structural as far as I can see, just a few set screws and there out....
Gday...
Ali El-Aziz Mohamed Gundawiathan, Ron shows his location as Victoria ... if that is correct, VicRoads does not require any approval certification if removal of the third row seats leaves up to 9 remaining seats.
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registration/vehicle-modifications-and-defects/vehicle-modifications/removing-adding-and-replacing-seats
However, I would check wif Vicroads face-to-face to be sure.
Cheers - John
Take the seats out but leave the seatbelts. Patrol owners have been doing this for years.
There has been the odd occasion when relatives have visited that I've had to put them back in. Having to get the compliance plate modified each time would be a pain in the neck.
It is for this reason & the fact that holes in the panels will show that a friend bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee but the car is too small & too limited for my liking.
Some cases depend upon whether you need tools to remove them or not. I would check with RMS and when you do advise them if you can do the removal with or without tools. In some jurisdictions, it is permissible to remove seats temporarily if tools are not needed to do the job.
The bottom line is - ask RMS.
There held in with set screws Peter and there already removed ,there not structural,there stupid things in my view unless your carrying around a tribe of kids. From what I can garner so far its ok to remove them ,provided your not carrying seven people in the car... theres a bit of on the net that suggests its no problem removeing them in nsw ,but I will check with the rta,If theres any problems I will bolt them back in I posted this wondering if anyone on the site had removed there seats just curious...
-- Edited by Ron-D on Sunday 23rd of September 2018 02:56:22 PM
The seats have been out of my Patrol fo 8 years, I still have them. The Patrol has an engineering certificate for the motor, the engineer didnt worry about the seats, the retractable seatbelts are still in.
I'm in NSW. So long as those seats and seat belts are out then it just gets registered as a 5 seater instead of 7. No engineering required.
Thanks for your reply rgren but I will still check with the rta imagine if your insurance used this as an excuse not to pay up...
That means I will have to contact the rta and have it re registered ,and contact them again when the car is sold to put it back to a 7 seater yep will check with the rta and see whats involved if it costs a mint the seats go back in,Iam going a bit over the top probably but with my luck ,In case of an accident I dont want give the insurance a chance not to pay or have other legal problems....
-- Edited by Ron-D on Sunday 23rd of September 2018 03:03:58 PM
I talk to insurance every year, ask about everything, time and date it and get the persons name and number. Think Ive got it covered.