I know this has been just about done to death but from my observations I think many people are still overweight and sticking their heads in the sand. I took the D40 to pedders to get an assessment on the condition of the suspension and a load and tow test. To my surprise the vehicle would be over GVM by 120kgs if loaded per the scenario. That is, maximum TB download 180kg, modest 250kg in tray and myself and the bride. Full tank, tow bar and factory nudge bar. So I don't know how those with steel front bars long range tanks, canopies and dual batteries manage to stay legal. I can get a SSM upgrade to 3070 GVM which will take care if it. The suspension needed doing anyway so will go with that to stay legal.
Greg 1 said
01:51 AM Nov 14, 2018
I think a lot of people get trapped the same way. It is often forgotten that everything that you place on or in the vehicle comes out of the payload figure and by the time a bundle of accessories are added and the passengers there is little left for anything else.
Radar said
07:17 AM Nov 14, 2018
Stretch60 wrote:
I know this has been just about done to death but from my observations I think many people are still overweight and sticking their heads in the sand. I took the D40 to pedders to get an assessment on the condition of the suspension and a load and tow test. To my surprise the vehicle would be over GVM by 120kgs if loaded per the scenario. That is, maximum TB download 180kg, modest 250kg in tray and myself and the bride. Full tank, tow bar and factory nudge bar. So I don't know how those with steel front bars long range tanks, canopies and dual batteries manage to stay legal. I can get a SSM upgrade to 3070 GVM which will take care if it. The suspension needed doing anyway so will go with that to stay legal.
Hi Stretch60
Do you realize that even the suspension upgrade will add more weight to the Navara in parts, springs are heavier, shock absorbers heavier and it goes on.
I went to the local transfer dump the other day, our Navara come out at 2.7 tonnes, yes thats right 2.7 tonnes GVW.
Suspenion set up, bull bar, long range tank, draw system, canopy, lights, 2 way. 2nd battery system and this was with full tank of fuel 138 litres and my wife.
Things are looking pretty grim when I drop the caravans 270 kg towball weight on and that will leave me 45 kg of payload. This is why not long back I said the canopy is the next thing to dissappear from our twin cab ute along with the draw system. Our V6 Navara has a 3030 GVM with 6030 GCM.
Best of luck.
Brenda and Alan said
08:44 AM Nov 14, 2018
Our D22 Navara runs at 2700Kg in travelling trim with two people and van hitched with a ball weight of 240 Kg. GVM is 2920 Kg. This is with bull bar a full tank and 60 Lts of extra water and we have a canopy but no drawers. A set of drawers can run from 75 Kg up to 100 Kg.
Alan
-- Edited by Brenda and Alan on Wednesday 14th of November 2018 08:45:43 AM
Desert Dweller said
07:15 PM Nov 14, 2018
We have a 2014 D22 Navara, our caravan ball weight is 160-180kg.
We have a dealer fitted steel bull bar & canopy.
No beer fridge or draws in the rear & our caravan weighs 1600kg fully loaded.
A bit of gear in the tub but not a problem weight wise.
We don't leave home with everything but the kitchen sink.
Traveled 6 months of every year for the past 7 years, around 85,000kms in total.
The rated towing capacity of 2800kg is a joke, it sometimes struggles in steep, hilly terrain with 1600kg on the rear.
We've had it serviced regularly at our local Nissan dealer.
The towing capacity of these 4x4 utilities is so over rated. We had a 2011 Ford Ranger purchased new before our current tug.
-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Wednesday 14th of November 2018 07:18:01 PM
Stretch60 said
01:28 AM Nov 15, 2018
Yeah well I solved the problem, it was time to move the brides Mazda 3 on and having just retired, I decided $3500 to upgrade the Nav was pointless.
Soooooo.........
Bought a new amarok v6.
-- Edited by Stretch60 on Thursday 15th of November 2018 01:28:45 AM
Radar said
12:49 PM Nov 15, 2018
Stretch60 wrote:
Yeah well I solved the problem, it was time to move the brides Mazda 3 on and having just retired, I decided $3500 to upgrade the Nav was pointless.
Soooooo.........
Bought a new amarok v6.
-- Edited by Stretch60 on Thursday 15th of November 2018 01:28:45 AM
Don't forget to have the suspension upgraded to tow with from the start, it will be a great bonus having the extra comfort of a suspension to carry the towball weight regularly.
Stretch60 said
06:41 PM Nov 15, 2018
Radar, cheers for the advice will look into it.
Brenda and Alan said
11:55 PM Nov 17, 2018
How did the amarok solve the over weight problem. The specs are not much different to the D40 except for the max weight you can tow.
Alan
Radar said
06:45 AM Nov 18, 2018
Brenda and Alan wrote:
How did the amarok solve the over weight problem. The specs are not much different to the D40 except for the max weight you can tow.
Alan
I was inerested in that point as I have D40 with a similar V6 power plant and 7 speed auto, high and low transfer case.
I know this has been just about done to death but from my observations I think many people are still overweight and sticking their heads in the sand. I took the D40 to pedders to get an assessment on the condition of the suspension and a load and tow test. To my surprise the vehicle would be over GVM by 120kgs if loaded per the scenario. That is, maximum TB download 180kg, modest 250kg in tray and myself and the bride. Full tank, tow bar and factory nudge bar. So I don't know how those with steel front bars long range tanks, canopies and dual batteries manage to stay legal. I can get a SSM upgrade to 3070 GVM which will take care if it. The suspension needed doing anyway so will go with that to stay legal.
Hi Stretch60
Do you realize that even the suspension upgrade will add more weight to the Navara in parts, springs are heavier, shock absorbers heavier and it goes on.
I went to the local transfer dump the other day, our Navara come out at 2.7 tonnes, yes thats right 2.7 tonnes GVW.
Suspenion set up, bull bar, long range tank, draw system, canopy, lights, 2 way. 2nd battery system and this was with full tank of fuel 138 litres and my wife.
Things are looking pretty grim when I drop the caravans 270 kg towball weight on and that will leave me 45 kg of payload. This is why not long back I said the canopy is the next thing to dissappear from our twin cab ute along with the draw system. Our V6 Navara has a 3030 GVM with 6030 GCM.
Best of luck.
Our D22 Navara runs at 2700Kg in travelling trim with two people and van hitched with a ball weight of 240 Kg. GVM is 2920 Kg. This is with bull bar a full tank and 60 Lts of extra water and we have a canopy but no drawers. A set of drawers can run from 75 Kg up to 100 Kg.
Alan
-- Edited by Brenda and Alan on Wednesday 14th of November 2018 08:45:43 AM
We have a 2014 D22 Navara, our caravan ball weight is 160-180kg.
We have a dealer fitted steel bull bar & canopy.
No beer fridge or draws in the rear & our caravan weighs 1600kg fully loaded.
A bit of gear in the tub but not a problem weight wise.
We don't leave home with everything but the kitchen sink.
Traveled 6 months of every year for the past 7 years, around 85,000kms in total.
The rated towing capacity of 2800kg is a joke, it sometimes struggles in steep, hilly terrain with 1600kg on the rear.
We've had it serviced regularly at our local Nissan dealer.
The towing capacity of these 4x4 utilities is so over rated. We had a 2011 Ford Ranger purchased new before our current tug.
-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Wednesday 14th of November 2018 07:18:01 PM
Yeah well I solved the problem, it was time to move the brides Mazda 3 on and having just retired, I decided $3500 to upgrade the Nav was pointless.
Soooooo.........
Bought a new amarok v6.
-- Edited by Stretch60 on Thursday 15th of November 2018 01:28:45 AM
Don't forget to have the suspension upgraded to tow with from the start, it will be a great bonus having the extra comfort of a suspension to carry the towball weight regularly.
How did the amarok solve the over weight problem. The specs are not much different to the D40 except for the max weight you can tow.
Alan
I was inerested in that point as I have D40 with a similar V6 power plant and 7 speed auto, high and low transfer case.