Hi all, I have a Truma Gas Heater fitted to the TeePee as I feel the cold quickly as well as heat in summer.
I tried using the heater this morning as it was 16c but felt a lot colder to me for some reason, probably my health at the moment and it would keep going, it kept cutting off. I gave up after 4 tries. Obviously there is a setting for low temps.
Does anyone know if there is a setting if I can adjust it to a lower temp for use? I had a look but couldn't see anything obvious and not being a techie type old Indian Chief I thought I might ask here before taking it further.
The temp got to around 11c during this afternoon so tried the heater and it worked great as it normally does.
KFT said
05:13 PM Mar 30, 2019
Hey Dougie, hope you are healing up ok mate.
Depends on how cold it was your gas cylinder may have been freezing up and not producing enough gas. Especially if the cylinder is getting low.
Change to the full cylinder and see how it goes. OR pour some hot water over it.
let me know how you get on mate.
KFC(PITA 216???)
Bill B said
05:31 PM Mar 30, 2019
Did you take the outside cover off ?
Brenda and Alan said
06:47 PM Mar 30, 2019
Propane boils at -42 degrees at atmospheric pressure ( lower if under pressure ) so I don't think cold gas bottles would be a problem.
Alan
Dougwe said
09:00 PM Mar 30, 2019
G'day Frank, it was a full bottle mate. I don't think the outside temp of 16c could have been cold enough for the heater to kick in properly. It worked fine late afternoon when the temp was 11c.
I thinking is maybe there is a way of setting a slightly higher temp for the heater to operate.
Dougwe said
09:02 PM Mar 30, 2019
Yes the cover is off Bill. I have used the heater a few times first thing in the morning lately but temps have been under 10c.
KFT said
10:56 PM Mar 30, 2019
Doug did you turn the temp control knob to a higher setting
Dougwe said
06:49 AM Mar 31, 2019
What you say'n Willis? :)
Sure did Frank.
In fact the switch is on high most of the time to keep my cold blood and this old Indian Chief warm, when I'm feeling cold.
The tropics are still nearly two months away yet. Still on the farm in Young til then.
Whenarewethere said
07:51 AM Mar 31, 2019
You are all getting soft! A couple of weeks ago I had 0°C outside the car in the morning in Tassie. Inside was 9°C with the windows covered.
My Truma gas hot water boiler, (assuming same ignition type as a Truma Gas Heater?), will not start/goes out, whenever the wind is blowing directly into the opening, where the cover was removed
I therefore ask the question, was/is it windy at the times that your Truma Gas Heater, will not start
Dougwe said
04:09 PM Mar 31, 2019
G'day Tony,
It was not windy at the time mate. The cover outside is just a small round cover that covers the exhaust outlet only. The main unit is fitted under the bed and fires up in that. It is protected from weather,
It is definitely something to do with a internal setting of a temp. As I have said above, it didn't fire up at 16c but did at 11c and again today at 13c.
As also said above, I am trying to find out if there is a control on the unit or in the wiring panel that I can adjust for the heater to fire up at say 16c or under.
It's no big drama but would like it to fire up 16c or under if I am cold. I feel the cold and heat very quickly with my health the way it is and it will be like that from now on.
This is all when I am not hooked up to 240v as I have a small 240v fan heater I can use. My Aircon is reverse cycle but when off the grid need to let Gene out of the Collie to run the aircon on heat. That's why I had the gas heater installed.
Tony Bev said
05:33 PM Mar 31, 2019
OK Doug, egg on my face again, as I jumped in without taking my boots off
Not knowing what model Truma Gas Heater you have, I found the operating manual for the Truma "Trumatic E 2400 Australia)"
What could be a problem is that the room "Teepee", may have been hotter, @ 16șC that what the heater was set at Which was one of your theories, when you asked if there was a setting for temperatures
According to the Fault finding the heater will not work, if the room temperature is hotter than the settings
Snip from the operating manual below
On this particular model, which may or may not be the same as yours The room temperature adjustment is the centre dial numbered 1 to 5 I will assume that when the room temperature setting is reached, then the heater should switch itself off
I would assume that the best way to adjust this room temperature setting, (as it does not say which way to turn, or perhaps number 4 setting = 24șC), would be to
Start the heater in low room temperature
Hold the outer ring so that it does not move, and switch the heater off
Turn the inner ring, (the one numbered 1 to 5), until the heater switches off. This should mean, that the setting is now colder than the room temperature
Turn the inner ring the opposite way, as this should mean (I think), that the gas heater "turn off setting" is now warmer than the room temperature
Start the heater again
Picture of Rotary Control switch is below
Hopefully those who are more tech savvy than me, or someone with the same model, can interpret the manual better, and give a better understanding
Hope that the info is useful
reglynn said
05:48 PM Mar 31, 2019
Hi Doug, i have had the same problem as you have, what the problem was an small hole or crack in the exhaust pipe, it is inside the air intake to the heating chamber of unit. If there is a hole there the exhaust will mix with the intake air and a sensor will detect the exhaust and will shut down, this could be your problem. i have pm you my number if needed cheers reg
Dougwe said
07:41 AM Apr 4, 2019
Thanks for all your input everyone but seems to be a Thermostat thing for sure and no actual fault. I am unable to find a way to change the temp setting so it will kick in 16c ambient temp. No drama I can get around it another way and keep warm when needed.
Reg, I check things out and no problems found.
Sarge9 said
09:10 PM Apr 9, 2019
Dougwe, I have got one of those loverley gas heaters, and have not had gremlins interfere with her desired furnace blasts when required, regardless of outside temp. Taking the cap of the exhaust does improve its efficiency I have noticed, but it is only left on when it is pitch dark, pouring rain, snowing, sub zero outside and I cant find my slippers or a torch. I also didnt know you could pick a kick in temp, I found the thermostat control a bit vague to get a nice balance when watching a movie etc, got to manually assist to stop the cold or alternative roasting.
How/what did you fix yours with?
Sarge.
T1 Terry said
12:45 PM Apr 10, 2019
Tony Bev wrote:
OK Doug, egg on my face again, as I jumped in without taking my boots off
Not knowing what model Truma Gas Heater you have, I found the operating manual for the Truma "Trumatic E 2400 Australia)"
What could be a problem is that the room "Teepee", may have been hotter, @ 16șC that what the heater was set at Which was one of your theories, when you asked if there was a setting for temperatures
According to the Fault finding the heater will not work, if the room temperature is hotter than the settings
Snip from the operating manual below
On this particular model, which may or may not be the same as yours The room temperature adjustment is the centre dial numbered 1 to 5 I will assume that when the room temperature setting is reached, then the heater should switch itself off
I would assume that the best way to adjust this room temperature setting, (as it does not say which way to turn, or perhaps number 4 setting = 24șC), would be to
Start the heater in low room temperature
Hold the outer ring so that it does not move, and switch the heater off
Turn the inner ring, (the one numbered 1 to 5), until the heater switches off. This should mean, that the setting is now colder than the room temperature
Turn the inner ring the opposite way, as this should mean (I think), that the gas heater "turn off setting" is now warmer than the room temperature
Start the heater again
Picture of Rotary Control switch is below
Hopefully those who are more tech savvy than me, or someone with the same model, can interpret the manual better, and give a better understanding
Hope that the info is useful
So, if position 4 roughly equals 23*C, then position 1 would be the coldest setting, but is that the temp it aims to maintain? or the temp it turns on at?
T1 Terry
Tony Bev said
03:15 PM Apr 10, 2019
Hi T1 Terry, (Terry)
I have been known to be wrong, in the past
From reading the manual, (I do not have a gas heater)
I assumed that whatever setting you put it on, was the temperature which the heater would aim to maintain, and then turn off when that temperature was reached
I also assumed that if the temperature of the van, was higher than the temperature the gas heater was set at, then the heater would not start up
Hope that this makes sense
T1 Terry said
05:58 PM Apr 10, 2019
I was thinking along the same lines, but would anyone try to maintain more than 26*C which I'm guessing would be position 5, (position 4 roughly 23*C, position 3 roughly 20*C, position 3 roughly 17*C and position 1 roughly 14*C) I could be way off with those temps, but they seemed to be reasonable expected temperatures.
T1 Terry
Baz421 said
08:37 PM Apr 10, 2019
Installing the room temperature sensor
When selecting the location, bear in mind that the room temperature
sensor must not be subjected to any direct radiant
heat. For optimum room temperature regulation, we recommend
that the room temperature sensor be fitted above the
entrance door.
Fig. 29 10 mm
Please ensure that the room temperature sensor is always
attached to a vertical wall. There must be no obstructions
preventing the room air from flowing around it.
Baz421 said
08:41 PM Apr 10, 2019
From the manual the rotary dial type thermostat has 0 to 5 range, which equates to 4 to 23 degrees. Not sure why you would need a setting of 4 degrees but: 0 = 4, 1 = 7.8, 2= 11.6, 3 = 15.4, 4 = 19.2 and 5 = 23
Then if the heater thermostat cuts out at 23 degrees the temperature will need to drop 2 degree to 21 degrees before the heater will cut back in.
As said the thermostat sensor location would be very important if you ever want to get temperatures up near 21 to 23 degrees inside the van.
Sarge9 said
02:20 PM Apr 11, 2019
i find that the sensor in mine is not very sensitive, it often rises much too high before cut out (or before i cut it out) and then sinks very low and needs a twitch of the dial to restore her good humor. I dont carry a thermometer to check actual temps but on very cold days if left down at 1 or 2 it does not kick in as expected. Three ish usually starts up and depending on the ish part my cycle like we want but often runs up too hot. Still would not be without it. Wish it cam with a timer.... might need to think about fitting one, for the frosty mornings (in a poptop)
Hotrob said
12:59 PM Apr 17, 2019
Hi Dougwe,
My first post so look out.
I've been reading your post about your problem.
I have the same heater in my van but mine works perfectly. I got to thinking (which is generally dangerous) and as a quick & easy work around you could try this.
We have some old ..... very old ...... small metal beakers. They came as a set of six in different anodized colours. You could try placing a couple of these beakers in your fridge or freezer & then place one of them over the thermostat sensor. This would then trick the sensor into thinking it was a lot colder than the real temp & would allow you to get warm. As the beaker warmed you could change it over for another cold one out of the fridge.
I realize this is not a permanent fix but could help you out short term.
Rob.
Dougwe said
09:46 AM May 21, 2019
Thanks everyone but problem solved. It was a lack of gas flow from regulator. See my new post in Techies dated, 21/5/19.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Tuesday 21st of May 2019 01:16:37 PM
Bazzle said
04:22 PM Dec 20, 2021
Hi Doug ( other members who might read this and csre to respond),
I realise your request for help is some months old, and perhaps you are no longer even on the forum.
Here goes anyway,
I had a Truma E2400 gas heater fitted in 2013, and while it worked for a number of years, I find that it will not currently ignite. I found out from a caravan repair company here in Adelaide that it is to do with the fan itself. They had recently sent one like mine back to the Australian agent to fix it, and that was the story that came back. $700 later !!
Not sure if your issue is at all related. I am having mine looked at here by Dario Caravans. I am a bit confused however because my fan will work on the ventilation setting, but not on the heater setting. Surely there are not two separate fans are there ?
Thought I would see how you finally finished up with your unit. Hopefully your problems are long gone.
Thank you, Barry
Bazzle said
04:59 PM Dec 20, 2021
Hi All
To those who have a Truma E2400 gas heater, and may be able to assist if.......
My heater had not failed until 12 months ago, and I am agonising over whether it really is worth the $500 plus getting it fixed.
I was told by RoadMaster Caravans here in Adelaide a week or so ago that they had just sent one back to the Australian agent with the same issue I have. It was returned and the fault was with the fan.
This is a bit confusing to me because my fan DOES work but ONLY on the ventilation setting.
Can any member help me out ......do these heaters run TWO fans ??? Surely not.
Maybe there is a dedicated switching component in the unit that causes the fan to operate when on the heater setting. If this fails, maybe both the fan and igniter fail when on heating setting, still allowing the fan to run on ventilation. ??
I would appreciate advice from members who are familiar with this heater unit, and my have experienced this type of failure.
Thank you, Barry
jeepnudger said
03:07 AM Dec 23, 2021
I had a problem aund found it easier to speak to the tra people directly and they quickly told me what to do
PeterInSa said
11:03 AM Dec 23, 2021
I would have the Gas Regulator Changed and see if that fixes the problem. ( It fixed a Friends problem with his Gas heater and Dougwe's above?)
Bazzle said
07:03 PM Apr 27, 2022
Hi,
Any members who have a Truma E2400 gas RV heater had any recent issues with their heater gas ignitor was not functioning.
Mine is approx 7 years old and until recently has functioned as designed.
I have heard of a couple of failures where the fault appears to be related to the fan failing, which causes the ignitor to malfunction.
Any comments from other members re their experiences would be appreciated.
Hi all, I have a Truma Gas Heater fitted to the TeePee as I feel the cold quickly as well as heat in summer.
I tried using the heater this morning as it was 16c but felt a lot colder to me for some reason, probably my health at the moment and it would keep going, it kept cutting off. I gave up after 4 tries. Obviously there is a setting for low temps.
Does anyone know if there is a setting if I can adjust it to a lower temp for use? I had a look but couldn't see anything obvious and not being a techie type old Indian Chief I thought I might ask here before taking it further.
The temp got to around 11c during this afternoon so tried the heater and it worked great as it normally does.
Depends on how cold it was your gas cylinder may have been freezing up and not producing enough gas. Especially if the cylinder is getting low.
Change to the full cylinder and see how it goes. OR pour some hot water over it.
let me know how you get on mate.
KFC(PITA 216???)
Propane boils at -42 degrees at atmospheric pressure ( lower if under pressure ) so I don't think cold gas bottles would be a problem.
Alan
G'day Frank, it was a full bottle mate. I don't think the outside temp of 16c could have been cold enough for the heater to kick in properly. It worked fine late afternoon when the temp was 11c.
I thinking is maybe there is a way of setting a slightly higher temp for the heater to operate.
Sure did Frank.
In fact the switch is on high most of the time to keep my cold blood and this old Indian Chief warm, when I'm feeling cold.
The tropics are still nearly two months away yet. Still on the farm in Young til then.
You are all getting soft! A couple of weeks ago I had 0°C outside the car in the morning in Tassie. Inside was 9°C with the windows covered.
The outside water pipes froze over night.
Cheers,
Peter
Just a thought, Doug
My Truma gas hot water boiler, (assuming same ignition type as a Truma Gas Heater?), will not start/goes out, whenever the wind is blowing directly into the opening, where the cover was removed
I therefore ask the question, was/is it windy at the times that your Truma Gas Heater, will not start
It was not windy at the time mate. The cover outside is just a small round cover that covers the exhaust outlet only. The main unit is fitted under the bed and fires up in that. It is protected from weather,
It is definitely something to do with a internal setting of a temp. As I have said above, it didn't fire up at 16c but did at 11c and again today at 13c.
As also said above, I am trying to find out if there is a control on the unit or in the wiring panel that I can adjust for the heater to fire up at say 16c or under.
It's no big drama but would like it to fire up 16c or under if I am cold. I feel the cold and heat very quickly with my health the way it is and it will be like that from now on.
This is all when I am not hooked up to 240v as I have a small 240v fan heater I can use. My Aircon is reverse cycle but when off the grid need to let Gene out of the Collie to run the aircon on heat. That's why I had the gas heater installed.
OK Doug, egg on my face again, as I jumped in without taking my boots off
Not knowing what model Truma Gas Heater you have, I found the operating manual for the Truma "Trumatic E 2400 Australia)"
Link Below
https://www.truma.com/web/downloadcenter/files/truma-heating-trumatic-e2400-installation-operating-aus-en.pdf
What could be a problem is that the room "Teepee", may have been hotter, @ 16șC that what the heater was set at
Which was one of your theories, when you asked if there was a setting for temperatures
According to the Fault finding the heater will not work, if the room temperature is hotter than the settings
Snip from the operating manual below
On this particular model, which may or may not be the same as yours
The room temperature adjustment is the centre dial numbered 1 to 5
I will assume that when the room temperature setting is reached, then the heater should switch itself off
I would assume that the best way to adjust this room temperature setting, (as it does not say which way to turn, or perhaps number 4 setting = 24șC), would be to
This should mean, that the setting is now colder than the room temperature
Picture of Rotary Control switch is below
Hopefully those who are more tech savvy than me, or someone with the same model, can interpret the manual better, and give a better understanding
Hope that the info is useful
Hi Doug, i have had the same problem as you have, what the problem was an small hole or crack in the exhaust pipe, it is inside the air intake to the heating chamber of unit. If there is a hole there the exhaust will mix with the intake air and a sensor will detect the exhaust and will shut down, this could be your problem. i have pm you my number if needed cheers reg
Reg, I check things out and no problems found.
How/what did you fix yours with?
Sarge.
So, if position 4 roughly equals 23*C, then position 1 would be the coldest setting, but is that the temp it aims to maintain? or the temp it turns on at?
T1 Terry
I have been known to be wrong, in the past
From reading the manual, (I do not have a gas heater)
I assumed that whatever setting you put it on, was the temperature which the heater would aim to maintain, and then turn off when that temperature was reached
I also assumed that if the temperature of the van, was higher than the temperature the gas heater was set at, then the heater would not start up
Hope that this makes sense
T1 Terry
Installing the room temperature sensor
When selecting the location, bear in mind that the room temperature
sensor must not be subjected to any direct radiant
heat. For optimum room temperature regulation, we recommend
that the room temperature sensor be fitted above the
entrance door.
Fig. 29 10 mm
Please ensure that the room temperature sensor is always
attached to a vertical wall. There must be no obstructions
preventing the room air from flowing around it.
From the manual the rotary dial type thermostat has 0 to 5 range, which equates to 4 to 23 degrees. Not sure why you would need a setting of 4 degrees but:
0 = 4, 1 = 7.8, 2= 11.6, 3 = 15.4, 4 = 19.2 and 5 = 23
Then if the heater thermostat cuts out at 23 degrees the temperature will need to drop 2 degree to 21 degrees before the heater will cut back in.
As said the thermostat sensor location would be very important if you ever want to get temperatures up near 21 to 23 degrees inside the van.
My first post so look out.
I've been reading your post about your problem.
I have the same heater in my van but mine works perfectly. I got to thinking (which is generally dangerous) and as a quick & easy work around you could try this.
We have some old ..... very old ...... small metal beakers. They came as a set of six in different anodized colours. You could try placing a couple of these beakers in your fridge or freezer & then place one of them over the thermostat sensor. This would then trick the sensor into thinking it was a lot colder than the real temp & would allow you to get warm. As the beaker warmed you could change it over for another cold one out of the fridge.
I realize this is not a permanent fix but could help you out short term.
Rob.
Thanks everyone but problem solved. It was a lack of gas flow from regulator. See my new post in Techies dated, 21/5/19.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Tuesday 21st of May 2019 01:16:37 PM
Hi Doug ( other members who might read this and csre to respond),
I realise your request for help is some months old, and perhaps you are no longer even on the forum.
Here goes anyway,
I had a Truma E2400 gas heater fitted in 2013, and while it worked for a number of years, I find that it will not currently ignite. I found out from a caravan repair company here in Adelaide that it is to do with the fan itself. They had recently sent one like mine back to the Australian agent to fix it, and that was the story that came back. $700 later !!
Not sure if your issue is at all related. I am having mine looked at here by Dario Caravans. I am a bit confused however because my fan will work on the ventilation setting, but not on the heater setting. Surely there are not two separate fans are there ?
Thought I would see how you finally finished up with your unit. Hopefully your problems are long gone.
Thank you, Barry
Hi All
To those who have a Truma E2400 gas heater, and may be able to assist if.......
My heater had not failed until 12 months ago, and I am agonising over whether it really is worth the $500 plus getting it fixed.
I was told by RoadMaster Caravans here in Adelaide a week or so ago that they had just sent one back to the Australian agent with the same issue I have. It was returned and the fault was with the fan.
This is a bit confusing to me because my fan DOES work but ONLY on the ventilation setting.
Can any member help me out ......do these heaters run TWO fans ??? Surely not.
Maybe there is a dedicated switching component in the unit that causes the fan to operate when on the heater setting. If this fails, maybe both the fan and igniter fail when on heating setting, still allowing the fan to run on ventilation. ??
I would appreciate advice from members who are familiar with this heater unit, and my have experienced this type of failure.
Thank you, Barry
I had a problem aund found it easier to speak to the tra people directly and they quickly told me what to do
Hi,
Any members who have a Truma E2400 gas RV heater had any recent issues with their heater gas ignitor was not functioning.
Mine is approx 7 years old and until recently has functioned as designed.
I have heard of a couple of failures where the fault appears to be related to the fan failing, which causes the ignitor to malfunction.
Any comments from other members re their experiences would be appreciated.
Maybe there is a common fault developing ??
Thank you, Barry