Hi all just bought 2 do not overtake turning vehicle singes on ebay but when they arrived they were only 55 mm X 200 mm and do not look big enough dos anybody have any information on the correct size. I can see NSW has a rule of there own of .125 of a square meter but I cant find out if this is national or whether it only apply's to NSW registered vehicles, but it do's seem very big? ( 500 X 250 or is my maths wrong).
Possum3 said
03:49 PM Apr 17, 2019
NSW regulation regarding sizes is OK Australia wide. You should also display corner decals at rear bottom corners of van. www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/~/view/regulation/2014/758/part11/div3
Mariner30 said
07:00 PM Apr 17, 2019
Do you really need them legally anyway??
If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
Peter_n_Margaret said
07:26 PM Apr 17, 2019
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter
yobarr said
08:24 PM Apr 17, 2019
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM
landy said
09:52 PM Apr 17, 2019
yobarr wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM
Yobarr could you please give ma a link to the government sight you mentioned as I haven't brought it up in any of my searches. I want to be legal but I think .125 square meters is far to big for the back of our van. Cheers Landy
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM
Yobarr could you please give ma a link to the government sight you mentioned as I haven't brought it up in any of my searches. I want to be legal but I think .125 square meters is far to big for the back of our van. Cheers Landy
Hi Dave....unfortunately I know nothing about links etc,but Steve seems to have pointed you in the right directio. You need the 100x300 size,I believe.Cheers
Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -
It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.
May be fitted These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates: any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM
Must not be fitted Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.
Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.
Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM
landy said
03:28 PM Apr 18, 2019
Thank you all for your information and links I must work on my search skills as you have come up with info that was alluding me Cheers Landy.
yobarr said
03:50 PM Apr 18, 2019
rockylizard wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size doesn't matter anyway
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter
Gday...
[EDIT: apologies to Outlaw ... jest noticed you had provided the pertinent link earlier]
It would have been simpler if a link to the relevant Vehicle Standards Bulletin (VSB) was provided to the OP.
Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -
It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.
May be fitted These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates: any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM
Must not be fitted Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.
Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.
Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM
yobarr said
03:58 PM Apr 18, 2019
rockylizard wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size doesn't matter anyway
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter
Gday...
[EDIT: apologies to Outlaw ... jest noticed you had provided the pertinent link earlier]
It would have been simpler if a link to the relevant Vehicle Standards Bulletin (VSB) was provided to the OP.
Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -
It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.
May be fitted These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates: any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM
Must not be fitted Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.
Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.
Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM
Hi John......would you be kind enough to point out where in this thread you found.... quote.....The hearsay one gets from a forums participants? All the advice given appears to be factual.Cheers
dogbox said
04:16 PM Apr 18, 2019
yobarr wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM
-- Edited by dogbox on Thursday 18th of April 2019 04:19:01 PM
rockylizard said
05:32 PM Apr 18, 2019
yobarr wrote:
Hi John......would you be kind enough to point out where in this thread you found.... quote.....The hearsay one gets from a forums participants? All the advice given appears to be factual.Cheers
Gday...
Getting a bit sensitive, Yobarr?
Who said I was referring to this thread?
Simply a comment that locating and understand the actual legislation, regulations and laws is always better than asking questions of members of a forum.
dos anybody have any information on the correct size. I can see NSW has a rule of there own of .125 of a square meter but I cant find out if this is
national or whether it only apply's to NSW registered vehicles, but it do's seem very big? ( 500 X 250 or is my maths wrong).
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM
Yobarr could you please give ma a link to the government sight you mentioned as I haven't brought it up in any of my searches. I want to be legal but I think .125 square meters is far to big for the back of our van. Cheers Landy
www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf.
Read it carefully. you must use the correct sign and position it correctly . lots of those ebay signs are not correct as they dont have the very small writing at the bottom stating the details of the reflective material used etc
I also gave legislation link in my post www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/~/view/regulation/2014/758/part11/div3
Gday...
[EDIT: apologies to Outlaw ... jest noticed you had provided the pertinent link earlier
]
It would have been simpler if a link to the relevant Vehicle Standards Bulletin (VSB) was provided to the OP.
This link gives the facts -
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf
Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -
It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.
May be fitted
These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates:
any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM
any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM
Must not be fitted
Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.
Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.
Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM
Cheers Landy.
Hi John......would you be kind enough to point out where in this thread you found.... quote.....The hearsay one gets from a forums participants? All the advice given appears to be factual.Cheers
-- Edited by dogbox on Thursday 18th of April 2019 04:19:01 PM
Gday...
Getting a bit sensitive, Yobarr?
Who said I was referring to this thread?
Simply a comment that locating and understand the actual legislation, regulations and laws is always better than asking questions of members of a forum.
Cheers - John