Hello all, we have just had Win 10 installed and are having trouble with email software. Being so used to Outlook with Win 7, we are now totally lost as to how to handle future emails with what is on offer without having to buy the office suites on offer.
Does any one have experience with any of the "free" programs these days?
Cheers - Ian
-- Edited by Mobi Condo on Sunday 12th of April 2020 09:47:31 PM
cjt55 said
11:14 PM Apr 12, 2020
Try GMail (Google Mail.) or Yahoo Mail. Both are good.
-- Edited by cjt55 on Sunday 12th of April 2020 11:15:34 PM
PeterD said
11:54 PM Apr 12, 2020
GMail and Yahoo mail are web based ail systems with their own mail addresses. If you have an ISP address like xxxxx@bigpond.com you need an email client or reader to access your account.
I use Mozilla Thunderbird for my Bigpond account. That link will take you to the English - UK language download. When you download and install it, watch out for the screens that ask you for your existing email details and the existing email reader you are using. If you fill in the correct details the installation process will set up your new account in your Thunderbird reader.
travellinglew said
05:27 AM Apr 13, 2020
Outlook works with widows 10. Have it running on my laptop.
Mobi Condo said
08:52 AM Apr 13, 2020
travellinglew wrote:
Outlook works with widows 10. Have it running on my laptop.
Mm! Thanks for this. I was on / using outlook, and being a bit simple with stuff I simply thought it would "slide in"" with the new set up, but not so. Is there a simple little thing I have missed in all this?
dorian said
09:00 AM Apr 13, 2020
PeterD wrote:
If you have an ISP address like xxxxx@bigpond.com you need an email client or reader to access your account.
Most ISPs have a webmail service which is accessible via your browser. I prefer a local email client, though.
I have used the Win10 Mail email client for a few years but recently it started having problems opening attachments.
Couldn't see an easy fix, so I changed back to Mozilla Thunderbird and that is working very well.
In fact after a few days I preferred it to Win 10 Mail.
iana said
09:46 AM Apr 13, 2020
What we are doing now, is using the office suite 365, you pay $120 a year, and it gives you six licenses to use with your family, that's $20 per year each and you get all the programs plus cloud storage each as well. MS is not going to support earlier programs after August this year, i.e. they are open to virus attack.
Jaahn said
10:20 AM Apr 13, 2020
Hi
I use Thunderbird and find it good. Better than the previous Microsoft one !
If Microsoft does not support old programs it means they will not do updates every two days to annoy us so win-win !
On another note I have W10 and very recently I cannot download my pictures off the phone, which is a few years old simpler Samsung android. The Picture program now finds the phone when I plug in the usb and the pictures on it but just stops, freezes, at the point when it previously should find the new pics, ticks them and ask to download them. I cannot find the reason for this but suspect it is One drive looking for the Cloud which I do not use. It has updated lately since I have been home, possibly a couple of times so I think it has changed something, somewhere. Microsoft help is NO help.
Jaahn
Santa said
10:32 AM Apr 13, 2020
Mobi Condo wrote:
Hello all, we have just had Win 10 installed and are having trouble with email software. Being so used to Outlook with Win 7, we are now totally lost as to how to handle future emails with what is on offer without having to buy the office suites on offer.
Does any one have experience with any of the "free" programs these days?
Cheers - Ian
-- Edited by Mobi Condo on Sunday 12th of April 2020 09:47:31 PM
I'm still running Outlook 2007 on Windows 10 with full functionality, no longer supported by Microsoft, however never have any problems, have tried numerous free software options, nothing comes close to Outlook
Perhaps you can find used a copy of Office 2007, worth a try.
laurieoz said
11:36 AM Apr 13, 2020
Another vote for Thunderbird - been using it forever
Laurie
Magnarc said
01:58 PM Apr 13, 2020
Outlook 2010 Been using for 8yrs. No probs so far.
JeffRae said
04:59 PM Apr 13, 2020
Mobi Condo, If you have the install disk from your previous version of Office/Outlook, you could install that on Win 10
Mike Harding said
07:19 AM Apr 19, 2020
iana wrote:
What we are doing now, is using the office suite 365, you pay $120 a year, and it gives you six licenses to use with your family, that's $20 per year each and you get all the programs plus cloud storage each as well. MS is not going to support earlier programs after August this year, i.e. they are open to virus attack.
Save your money:
https://www.libreoffice.org/
stoney123 said
12:58 PM Apr 22, 2020
I use and recommend Gmail, you can create multiple accounts for free and each account can store all your photos, receipts,tax etc for free.
Gmail also has functionality to migrate your email from another email system in background. I did this for a person who needed Gmail for multilingual spell checker, he was thunderbird and loved that, but a few weeks later was totally Gmail. Even though he had thunderbird he was tied to his old aapt email server , which was a risk as he was no longer aapt. Gmail is telco independent, it is free, it is web based, you can login from tablet,laptop or phone.
shanem said
06:19 PM Apr 22, 2020
cloud storage means you are giving your data to someone's server ... you never know where it goes afterwards ... I recommend you get an external hard drive to back up your info and get used to just updating it regularly and changing over to a new external hard drive every year or so. not a great deal of effort for security of your data.
Mike Harding said
07:51 AM Apr 23, 2020
stoney123 wrote:I use and recommend Gmail
...
Gmail is telco independent, it is free, it is web based, you can login from tablet,laptop or phone.
And all your e-mail can and will be read by anyone Google approves and its content used for any purpose Google chooses.
There ain't nowt for nowt.
JeffRae said
06:14 PM Apr 23, 2020
Mike Harding, your suggestion of Libre Office is fine for an office bundle, but it does not come with an email client
Jeff
Santa said
06:31 PM Apr 23, 2020
Would never install anything that requires a Google account.
Mike Harding said
07:03 AM Apr 24, 2020
JeffRae wrote:
Mike Harding, your suggestion of Libre Office is fine for an office bundle, but it does not come with an email client
True and if integrated e-mail software is worth the price of MS Office to you then that is a good solution for you.
Otherwise Thunderbird compliments Libre Office very neatly and is free:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/
Mobi Condo said
08:56 AM Apr 24, 2020
Mike Harding wrote:
JeffRae wrote:
Mike Harding, your suggestion of Libre Office is fine for an office bundle, but it does not come with an email client
True and if integrated e-mail software is worth the price of MS Office to you then that is a good solution for you.
Otherwise Thunderbird compliments Libre Office very neatly and is free:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/
Oh! How delightful is this forum.
My greatest thanks to all for your answers. I have checked out all and special thanks to Mike Harding and JeffRae for the inputs re Libre Office and thunderbird. There was another reference to thunderbird as well, so thank you to that contributor as well.
I have tried the word processing and the spreadsheet aspects of Libre Office and now of course thunderbird. All seem quite similar to what I am used to. I'll give this all a week or so but reckon it is the way to go and am even seriously going to contribute some funds to the developers as they are deserving of that too!
Cheers - Ian
Mike Harding said
02:05 PM Apr 24, 2020
Mobi Condo wrote:and am even seriously going to contribute some funds to the developers as they are deserving of that too!
Good on you Ian! I regularly do the same.
Mobi Condo said
10:20 PM Apr 24, 2020
Further report to the excellent advice.
The email is superb (Thunderbird) and the Libre Office suite has also operated my Presentations files from Power Point AND the drawing part is an easy to use replacement for Publisher! I am CHUFFED. In fact I think I'll go and put the Billy on and make a cuppa to share with all the good helpful folks here.
Cheers - Ian
PeterD said
10:44 PM Apr 24, 2020
I have not had M$ Office on a computer this century. I did have M$ Works 97 on Windows 95. When I got the new computer OpenOffice was in its infancy. It was a bit clunky but I managed with it. Each computer after that had the current M$ windows on it but that is the only M$ product I have purchased in the last 20 years. Open Office and then LibreOffice have served me well.
Corndoggy said
05:38 PM Apr 26, 2020
If you would like your computer to look like windows 7 you can Google that and you'll find videos and programs to make it look that way. The is a program OE Classic that you can download for free. Is supossed to be a outlook replacement. I haven't tried it. I'm still using outlook myself.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Sunday 26th of April 2020 06:32:28 PM
StewG said
12:37 PM Apr 27, 2020
An older version of Outlook should work ok in Win 10 as others have said. If you want the latest Outlook, it will cost $99 per year for one copy and $129 per year for up to six copies, but one copy can be used on PC and Tablet and Smart Phone. However, if you want to avoid the cash drain, Libre Office and Mozilla Thunderbird are nearly as good as the Microsoft 365 for the average user and are free. I am in the process of exiting M$ 365 and find the free alternatives pretty good with some minor losses. It really is about what you get accustomed to using.
Mobi Condo said
09:01 PM May 3, 2020
Mobi Condo wrote:
Further report to the excellent advice. The email is superb (Thunderbird) and the Libre Office suite has also operated my Presentations files from Power Point AND the drawing part is an easy to use replacement for Publisher! I am CHUFFED. In fact I think I'll go and put the Billy on and make a cuppa to share with all the good helpful folks here. Cheers - Ian
Hello all you most helpful group.
I am not sure how to finish this off now as I have the solutions I required due to the combined wisdom / experience of this forum.
There's a lot of cuppas due to you all should we catch up along the road.
Cheers - Ian
PeterD said
10:59 PM May 3, 2020
Mobi Condo wrote:
The email is superb (Thunderbird) and the Libre Office suite has also operated my Presentations files from Power Point AND the drawing part is an easy to use replacement for Publisher!
I have seen OpenOffice Presentation work when Excel failed to cope. A couple of times we had speakers at our computer club come along with Excel presentations. Somehow our copies of MS Excel would not show their presentations. We fired up another machine with OpenOffice on it and it handled their presentations OK.
Hylife said
09:06 PM May 4, 2020
A common problem many folks have with newer versions of Windows is with pirated software installed on their old PC that they mistakenly believed was part of Windows.
Microsoft Outlook is part of the Microsoft Office suite of programs and has never been included with windows.
If you had Outlook on your old PC is was installed separately after you bought your PC. Simply hunt down the CD you used to install it way back when and install it on your new PC. Versions 2007 and later work flawlessly with Windows 10 although you will need to install Office service pack 3 if yours is the 2007 edition to update some encryption components.
If you have a friend who no longer uses their OLD edition of Office, having purchased a newer version, have them "gift" you their CD permanently, and you can install it on your PC. To be legally licensed to use Microsoft Office you must be in 'possession' of either a CD, a product key card, or on online subscription directly with Microsoft, for each and every PC you own. Microsoft licences have never been transferable or able to be shared.
If you never had a CD then you had pirated software*. *(2016 and later was also available directly from Microsoft as a download, after purchasing a product key card from a 'bricks and mortar' retail outlet such as Officeworks)
These days you can Purchase Microsoft Office in 3 varieties:-
Home and student = Word, Excel, PowerPoint RRP $188 (no Outlook) Home and Business = Word, Excel, PowerPoint Outlook RRP $345 Professional = Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Publisher, Access RRP $638
Our you can rent Microsoft Office after purchasing a product key card:-
On a yearly basis the Professional edition is called Office 365. For 1xPC $98 or for 6xPCs** $113 **(must be residing in the same household)
**(Office 365 via product key card is NOT permitted for other than personal use. Businesses must subscribe to Office 365 directly with Microsoft)
There is a basic email program included with Windows 10 called Mail. Look for the following icon on your PC.
Hello all, we have just had Win 10 installed and are having trouble with email software. Being so used to Outlook with Win 7, we are now totally lost as to how to handle future emails with what is on offer without having to buy the office suites on offer.
Does any one have experience with any of the "free" programs these days?
Cheers - Ian
-- Edited by Mobi Condo on Sunday 12th of April 2020 09:47:31 PM
Try GMail (Google Mail.) or Yahoo Mail. Both are good.
-- Edited by cjt55 on Sunday 12th of April 2020 11:15:34 PM
GMail and Yahoo mail are web based ail systems with their own mail addresses. If you have an ISP address like xxxxx@bigpond.com you need an email client or reader to access your account.
I use Mozilla Thunderbird for my Bigpond account. That link will take you to the English - UK language download. When you download and install it, watch out for the screens that ask you for your existing email details and the existing email reader you are using. If you fill in the correct details the installation process will set up your new account in your Thunderbird reader.
Mm! Thanks for this. I was on / using outlook, and being a bit simple with stuff I simply thought it would "slide in"" with the new set up, but not so. Is there a simple little thing I have missed in all this?
Most ISPs have a webmail service which is accessible via your browser. I prefer a local email client, though.
https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/manage/how-to-use-webmail
I have used the Win10 Mail email client for a few years but recently it started having problems opening attachments.
Couldn't see an easy fix, so I changed back to Mozilla Thunderbird and that is working very well.
In fact after a few days I preferred it to Win 10 Mail.
Hi
I use Thunderbird and find it good. Better than the previous Microsoft one !
If Microsoft does not support old programs it means they will not do updates every two days to annoy us so win-win !
On another note I have W10 and very recently I cannot download my pictures off the phone, which is a few years old simpler Samsung android. The Picture program now finds the phone when I plug in the usb and the pictures on it but just stops, freezes, at the point when it previously should find the new pics, ticks them and ask to download them. I cannot find the reason for this but suspect it is One drive looking for the Cloud which I do not use. It has updated lately since I have been home, possibly a couple of times so I think it has changed something, somewhere. Microsoft help is NO help.
Jaahn
I'm still running Outlook 2007 on Windows 10 with full functionality, no longer supported by Microsoft, however never have any problems, have tried numerous free software options, nothing comes close to Outlook
Perhaps you can find used a copy of Office 2007, worth a try.
Another vote for Thunderbird - been using it forever
Laurie
Outlook 2010 Been using for 8yrs. No probs so far.
Mobi Condo, If you have the install disk from your previous version of Office/Outlook, you could install that on Win 10
Save your money:
https://www.libreoffice.org/
And all your e-mail can and will be read by anyone Google approves and its content used for any purpose Google chooses.
There ain't nowt for nowt.
Mike Harding, your suggestion of Libre Office is fine for an office bundle, but it does not come with an email client
Jeff
Would never install anything that requires a Google account.
True and if integrated e-mail software is worth the price of MS Office to you then that is a good solution for you.
Otherwise Thunderbird compliments Libre Office very neatly and is free:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/
Oh! How delightful is this forum.
My greatest thanks to all for your answers. I have checked out all and special thanks to Mike Harding and JeffRae for the inputs re Libre Office and thunderbird. There was another reference to thunderbird as well, so thank you to that contributor as well.
I have tried the word processing and the spreadsheet aspects of Libre Office and now of course thunderbird. All seem quite similar to what I am used to. I'll give this all a week or so but reckon it is the way to go and am even seriously going to contribute some funds to the developers as they are deserving of that too!
Cheers - Ian
Good on you Ian! I regularly do the same.
The email is superb (Thunderbird) and the Libre Office suite has also operated my Presentations files from Power Point AND the drawing part is an easy to use replacement for Publisher! I am CHUFFED. In fact I think I'll go and put the Billy on and make a cuppa to share with all the good helpful folks here.
Cheers - Ian
If you would like your computer to look like windows 7 you can Google that and you'll find videos and programs to make it look that way. The is a program OE Classic that you can download for free. Is supossed to be a outlook replacement. I haven't tried it. I'm still using outlook myself.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Sunday 26th of April 2020 06:32:28 PM
Hello all you most helpful group.
I am not sure how to finish this off now as I have the solutions I required due to the combined wisdom / experience of this forum.
There's a lot of cuppas due to you all should we catch up along the road.
Cheers - Ian
I have seen OpenOffice Presentation work when Excel failed to cope. A couple of times we had speakers at our computer club come along with Excel presentations. Somehow our copies of MS Excel would not show their presentations. We fired up another machine with OpenOffice on it and it handled their presentations OK.
A common problem many folks have with newer versions of Windows is with pirated software installed on their old PC that they mistakenly believed was part of Windows.
Microsoft Outlook is part of the Microsoft Office suite of programs and has never been included with windows.
If you had Outlook on your old PC is was installed separately after you bought your PC.
Simply hunt down the CD you used to install it way back when and install it on your new PC.
Versions 2007 and later work flawlessly with Windows 10 although you will need to install Office service pack 3 if yours is the 2007 edition to update some encryption components.
If you have a friend who no longer uses their OLD edition of Office, having purchased a newer version, have them "gift" you their CD permanently, and you can install it on your PC.
To be legally licensed to use Microsoft Office you must be in 'possession' of either a CD, a product key card, or on online subscription directly with Microsoft, for each and every PC you own.
Microsoft licences have never been transferable or able to be shared.
If you never had a CD then you had pirated software*.
*(2016 and later was also available directly from Microsoft as a download, after purchasing a product key card from a 'bricks and mortar' retail outlet such as Officeworks)
These days you can Purchase Microsoft Office in 3 varieties:-
Home and student = Word, Excel, PowerPoint RRP $188 (no Outlook)
Home and Business = Word, Excel, PowerPoint Outlook RRP $345
Professional = Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Publisher, Access RRP $638
Our you can rent Microsoft Office after purchasing a product key card:-
On a yearly basis the Professional edition is called Office 365. For 1xPC $98 or for 6xPCs** $113
**(must be residing in the same household)
**(Office 365 via product key card is NOT permitted for other than personal use. Businesses must subscribe to Office 365 directly with Microsoft)
There is a basic email program included with Windows 10 called Mail. Look for the following icon on your PC.