Thought I would start a new thread on this in case anyone is interested.
I have managed to secure an GVM upgrade for my FJ cruiser here in WA .
The upgrade includes new springs and shock absorbers .
new vin plate , etc.,
Still working out the final details . Thanks to Yobarr he is a great help !
A bit costly.
Its only 130 kgs but should be enough .
The exciting thing is , I;ve also, by luck found a firm that will upgrade my van GVM by 300kgs yes thats right almost double the present GVM ,
Although I only need around 50 kg ,so.
This lets me carry a little less in the car , hell I could probably get away with just the van upgrade.
Dont know' how they can do this as from what I can understand they do nothing to the suspension , or the van ,you get a new plate all legal etc.,
They said: "we check with the manufacturer whom usually understate the vans gvm by quite a bit ????
Let you know how it all goes.
Has anyone done a gvm upgrade on their caravan ?
Anyway open to discussion.
Regards Orid
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 07:51:25 PM
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 07:53:28 PM
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 08:04:15 PM
travelyounger said
08:28 PM Oct 14, 2020
orid wrote:
Thought I would start a new thread on this in case anyone is interested.
I have managed to secure an GVM upgrade for my FJ cruiser here in WA .
The upgrade includes new springs and shock absorbers .
new vin plate , etc.,
Still working out the final details . Thanks to Yobarr he is a great help !
A bit costly.
Its only 130 kgs but should be enough .
The exciting thing is , I;ve also, by luck found a firm that will upgrade my van GVM by 300kgs yes thats right almost double the present GVM ,
Although I only need around 50 kg ,so.
This lets me carry a little less in the car , hell I could probably get away with just the van upgrade.
Dont know' how they can do this as from what I can understand they do nothing to the suspension , or the van ,you get a new plate all legal etc.,
They said: "we check with the manufacturer whom usually understate the vans gvm by quite a bit ????
Let you know how it all goes.
Has anyone done a gvm upgrade on their caravan ?
Anyway open to discussion.
Regards Orid
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 07:51:25 PM
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 07:53:28 PM
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 08:04:15 PM
I have had two van gvm upgrades first was a fulcher tandem with ford rims .The original gvm was 2250 kg up to 2800 kg the van I have now has 3.7 ton cruise master suspension and original gvm was 3250 up to 3500 kg both upgrades only involved taking to a blue slip registration center and paperwork and have never had any problems when loaded to their capacity.
I have also had a gvm and gcm upgrade on the tug but I won't open up that topic .
Cheers
yobarr said
08:32 PM Oct 14, 2020
orid wrote:
Thought I would start a new thread on this in case anyone is interested.
I have managed to secure an GVM upgrade for my FJ cruiser here in WA .
The upgrade includes new springs and shock absorbers .
new vin plate , etc.,
Still working out the final details . Thanks to Yobarr he is a great help !
A bit costly.
Its only 130 kgs but should be enough .
The exciting thing is , I;ve also, by luck found a firm that will upgrade my van GVM by 300kgs yes thats right almost double the present GVM ,
Although I only need around 50 kg ,so.
This lets me carry a little less in the car , hell I could probably get away with just the van upgrade.
Dont know' how they can do this as from what I can understand they do nothing to the suspension , or the van ,you get a new plate all legal etc.,
They said: "we check with the manufacturer whom usually understate the vans gvm by quite a bit ????
Let you know how it all goes.
Has anyone done a gvm upgrade on their caravan ?
Anyway open to discussion.
Regards Orid
Hi Peter...I suspect that you mean "GTM upgrade" which is an upgrade on the axle group's carrying capacity? I easily increased the capacities on one of my vans,with my GTM increased from 1960kg to 3200kg,and my ATM (GVM usually relates to powered vehicles,I believe?) from 2180kg to 3500kg.Details tomorrow.Cheers
P.S Thanks for the kind words.Always I am happy to help those who are willing to learn.
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 09:11:49 PM
I have had two van gvm upgrades first was a fulcher tandem with ford rims .The original gvm was 2250 kg up to 2800 kg the van I have now has 3.7 ton cruise master suspension and original gvm was 3250 up to 3500 kg both upgrades only involved taking to a blue slip registration center and paperwork and have never had any problems when loaded to their capacity.
I have also had a gvm and gcm upgrade on the tug but I won't open up that topic.
Cheers
Well done! I trust that all is going well with your upgrades,and you're enjoying your travels? Cheers
orid said
09:38 PM Oct 14, 2020
my mistake GTM on the caravan ,
I thought that caravan couldnt be increased so easily /? but then it is a towed vehicle , still seems to easy,
Not complaining lol.
R
I have had two van gvm upgrades first was a fulcher tandem with ford rims .The original gvm was 2250 kg up to 2800 kg the van I have now has 3.7 ton cruise master suspension and original gvm was 3250 up to 3500 kg both upgrades only involved taking to a blue slip registration center and paperwork and have never had any problems when loaded to their capacity.
I have also had a gvm and gcm upgrade on the tug but I won't open up that topic .
Thats nice to know Travelyounger thank you
Cheers
regards Orid
travelyounger said
06:35 AM Oct 15, 2020
Thank you yobarr yes we are happy with what we have done to make our travels more enjoyable and safer and we are still working in grain and agriculture.We are carrying a lot of extra cargo and living on the road every bit of payload is used considering a lot of manufacturers give very little payload on new vans have a great day
Cheers
orid said
07:38 PM Oct 15, 2020
Well now here is a bombshell ,
Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM,
Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation.
If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount.
Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
yobarr said
08:02 PM Oct 15, 2020
orid wrote:
Well now here is a bombshell , Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM, Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation. If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount. Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
Hi Peter...please be aware that I've had a few (quite a few!) beers,but at the moment,it seems that you'll still be OK? Your GCM figure is 4760kg,and maximum towing capacity is 2250kg. However,the towball weight (225kg or 10%) of this towed load becomes part of your car's GVM,so weight on van wheels (GTM if you like) is 2025kg.Because your GCM is 4760kg,we now need to deduct your GTM (2025kg) from that figure to get maximum allowed weight on wheels of your car...seems to be 2735kg? Tomorrow I'll check these figures,but,with a small GVM upgrade,it all looks OK at the moment? Cheers
Jaahn said
08:40 AM Oct 17, 2020
orid wrote:
Well now here is a bombshell , Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:) Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM, Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation. If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount. Hope Im wrong on this , Regards Orid
Hey Orid I have spotted your problem !!
Carrying to many passengers, might have to make them walk
Jaahn
orid said
03:20 PM Oct 17, 2020
HaHAHa Jaahn ,
well they are 3kg each ! or I could sit the missus on the bonnet for a bit of weight transfer ,
regards Orid
montie said
07:42 AM Oct 21, 2020
orid wrote:
Well now here is a bombshell , Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM, Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation. If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount. Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
It depends if the vehicle you are upgrading has a published GCM rating. It it does then you cannot legally exceed it. On the other hand if it does not have a published rating your limit will be GVM plus GTM which will be ok.
travelyounger said
06:42 AM Oct 27, 2020
montie wrote:
orid wrote:
Well now here is a bombshell , Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM, Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation. If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount. Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
It depends if the vehicle you are upgrading has a published GCM rating. It it does then you cannot legally exceed it. On the other hand if it does not have a published rating your limit will be GVM plus GTM which will be ok.
If you contact Lovell's springs they will give you all the information on gvm and gcm upgrades for certain vehicles .This includes second stage of manufacturing and pre rego but beware every state has different rules and lots of bad info out there about these upgrades ,even the RMS don't really know the rules but at the end of the day its making your vehicle much safer and enjoyable to travel with as long as you do it legally.
Cheers
yobarr said
08:57 AM Oct 27, 2020
orid wrote:
Well now here is a bombshell , Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM, Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation. If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount. Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 27th of October 2020 10:24:19 AM
Well now here is a bombshell , Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM, Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation. If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount. Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 27th of October 2020 10:24:19 AM
Apparently Lovell's where he only company which give gcm upgrades in some states when I did mine 18 months ago when you did a gvm upgrade on certain vehicles all approved by the RMS and that's 650 kg on car and 1050 kg overall on dmax
Thought I would start a new thread on this in case anyone is interested.
I have managed to secure an GVM upgrade for my FJ cruiser here in WA .
The upgrade includes new springs and shock absorbers .
new vin plate , etc.,
Still working out the final details . Thanks to Yobarr he is a great help !
A bit costly.
Its only 130 kgs but should be enough .
The exciting thing is , I;ve also, by luck found a firm that will upgrade my van GVM by 300kgs yes thats right almost double the present GVM ,
Although I only need around 50 kg ,so.
This lets me carry a little less in the car , hell I could probably get away with just the van upgrade.
Dont know' how they can do this as from what I can understand they do nothing to the suspension , or the van ,you get a new plate all legal etc.,
They said: "we check with the manufacturer whom usually understate the vans gvm by quite a bit ????
Let you know how it all goes.
Has anyone done a gvm upgrade on their caravan ?
Anyway open to discussion.
Regards Orid
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 07:51:25 PM
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 07:53:28 PM
-- Edited by orid on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 08:04:15 PM
I have had two van gvm upgrades first was a fulcher tandem with ford rims .The original gvm was 2250 kg up to 2800 kg the van I have now has 3.7 ton cruise master suspension and original gvm was 3250 up to 3500 kg both upgrades only involved taking to a blue slip registration center and paperwork and have never had any problems when loaded to their capacity.
I have also had a gvm and gcm upgrade on the tug but I won't open up that topic .
Cheers
Hi Peter...I suspect that you mean "GTM upgrade" which is an upgrade on the axle group's carrying capacity? I easily increased the capacities on one of my vans,with my GTM increased from 1960kg to 3200kg,and my ATM (GVM usually relates to powered vehicles,I believe?) from 2180kg to 3500kg.Details tomorrow.Cheers
P.S Thanks for the kind words.Always I am happy to help those who are willing to learn.
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of October 2020 09:11:49 PM
Well done! I trust that all is going well with your upgrades,and you're enjoying your travels? Cheers
I thought that caravan couldnt be increased so easily /? but then it is a towed vehicle , still seems to easy,
Not complaining lol.
R
I have had two van gvm upgrades first was a fulcher tandem with ford rims .The original gvm was 2250 kg up to 2800 kg the van I have now has 3.7 ton cruise master suspension and original gvm was 3250 up to 3500 kg both upgrades only involved taking to a blue slip registration center and paperwork and have never had any problems when loaded to their capacity.
I have also had a gvm and gcm upgrade on the tug but I won't open up that topic .
Thats nice to know Travelyounger thank you
Cheers
regards Orid
Cheers
Ive been doing some more digging , i do like to check thouroughly:)
Aparrently the gvm upgrade on the tow vehicle does not alter your GCM,
Now if thats the case it is a complete waste of time in my situation.
If I load the car to the new GVM , which is plus 130kg it will reduce my towing capacity by same amount.
Hope Im wrong on this ,
Regards Orid
Hi Peter...please be aware that I've had a few (quite a few!) beers,but at the moment,it seems that you'll still be OK? Your GCM figure is 4760kg,and maximum towing capacity is 2250kg. However,the towball weight (225kg or 10%) of this towed load becomes part of your car's GVM,so weight on van wheels (GTM if you like) is 2025kg.Because your GCM is 4760kg,we now need to deduct your GTM (2025kg) from that figure to get maximum allowed weight on wheels of your car...seems to be 2735kg? Tomorrow I'll check these figures,but,with a small GVM upgrade,it all looks OK at the moment? Cheers
Hey Orid
I have spotted your problem !!
Carrying to many passengers, might have to make them walk
Jaahn
well they are 3kg each ! or I could sit the missus on the bonnet for a bit of weight transfer ,
regards Orid
It depends if the vehicle you are upgrading has a published GCM rating. It it does then you cannot legally exceed it. On the other hand if it does not have a published rating your limit will be GVM plus GTM which will be ok.
If you contact Lovell's springs they will give you all the information on gvm and gcm upgrades for certain vehicles .This includes second stage of manufacturing and pre rego but beware every state has different rules and lots of bad info out there about these upgrades ,even the RMS don't really know the rules but at the end of the day its making your vehicle much safer and enjoyable to travel with as long as you do it legally.
Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 27th of October 2020 10:24:19 AM
Apparently Lovell's where he only company which give gcm upgrades in some states when I did mine 18 months ago when you did a gvm upgrade on certain vehicles all approved by the RMS and that's 650 kg on car and 1050 kg overall on dmax
Cheers