Anybody know where to find Rules/Regs for carrying LP Gas cylinders, or have knowledge of the following.
I followed a camper trailer with 2 x 9kg cyls in holders at the rear, which were completely exposed to impact, I would have thought impact protection would be a mandatory requirement, mind you, it did look like home made holders.
I have not been able to find anything on the www so far that pertained to this particular situation, plenty about being carried in vented areas and not inside and away from ignition sources, but nothing about impact protection.
Each state and territory implements the updated Australian Dangerous Goods Code and associated updates to their dangerous goods transport regulations separately. Each state and territory's dangerous goods transport act and regulations are at the links below. Businesses must comply with their state / territory specific act and regulations and the ADG Code.
State / Territory Act Regulation
Australian Commonwealth Territory Dangerous Goods (Road Transport) Act 2009 Dangerous Goods (Road Transport) Regulations 2010
New South Wales Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Act 2008 Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Regulation 2014
Northern Territory Transport of Dangerous Goods By Road and Rail (National Uniform Legislation) Act Transport of Dangerous Goods By Road and Rail (National Uniform Legislation) Regulations
Queensland (road) Transport Operations (Road Use Management) Act 1995 Transport Operations (Road Use Management-Dangerous Goods) Regulation 2018
Queensland (rail) Transport Infrastructure Act 1994 Transport Infrastructure (Dangerous Goods by Rail) Regulation 2018
South Australia Dangerous Substances Act 1979 Dangerous Substances (Dangerous Goods Transport) Regulations 2008
Tasmania Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Act 2010 Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Regulations 2010
Victoria Dangerous Goods Act 1985 PDF: 733 KB ReadSpeaker Dangerous Goods (Transport by Road or Rail) Regulations 2018 PDF: 668 KB ReadSpeaker
Western Australia Dangerous Goods Safety Act 2004 Dangerous Goods Safety Regulations
peter67 said
06:31 PM Apr 16, 2021
If you are carrying gas cylinders at the rear of your caravan and you get rear ended hard enough to puncture one your whole caravan is already toast from the impact force. You'll have much bigger things to worry about.
Whenarewethere said
06:51 PM Apr 16, 2021
TPMS on your car & caravan would probably save about 99% of issues.
Aus-Kiwi said
07:45 PM Apr 16, 2021
Two 9kg bottles in Motorhome, assume caravan the same. ? . In secured in vented floor of cabinet . A sign on outside to show location . Certificate etc .
Whenarewethere said
04:46 PM Apr 19, 2021
When was the last time people gave their ABE extinguishers a bash to free up the settled powder.
I have two ABE extinguishers & turn them upside down & knock them together to free up the powder.
I give them a bash more often when we have been on the corrugated roads as this really settles the powder into a solid block. If you have good hearing you can hear the block move.
Tony LEE said
07:09 AM Apr 20, 2021
Gas bottles must be mounted within the envelope of the vehicle, not tacked on to the outside. So bottles on the a frame, in gas lockers or tucked within the mudguard structure are OK
Rob Driver said
08:08 AM Apr 20, 2021
Whenarewethere wrote:
TPMS on your car & caravan would probably save about 99% of issues.
I cant see the relevance but whatever you're smoking must be good.
Regards
Rob
Whenarewethere said
08:40 AM Apr 20, 2021
Blown gas bottles vs tyres probably 1 to 100,000!
Get TPMS, it is mandatory in some countries.
Rob Driver said
09:18 AM Apr 20, 2021
Whenarewethere wrote:
Blown gas bottles vs tyres probably 1 to 100,000!
Get TPMS, it is mandatory in some countries.
And from the topic title....who knew?
Whenarewethere said
09:35 AM Apr 20, 2021
If your caravan is on fire then worry about gas cylinders.
Whenarewethere said
11:46 AM Apr 20, 2021
I have actually seen a car go up in flames. It is shocking just how quickly it is before it is too late.
3 fire extinguishers were brought out from shops & not one worked.
Aus-Kiwi said
09:04 PM Apr 30, 2021
Leaking cylinder in a car >unvented< is a BOMB !
Possum3 said
02:06 PM May 1, 2021
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Leaking cylinder in a car >unvented< is a BOMB !
Cylinders should always be in upright position and have bung in outlet to be transported in vehicles - unless attached to an approved appliance. Most re-fillers insist on this when bottles brought in for re-filling.
Corndoggy said
04:47 PM May 1, 2021
Caught on camera. Had a truck/van transporting gas cylinders inside the back of the van. BOOOOM....Guess what. No more van, no more driver. From what I remember luckily now one else was hurt. Had a gas cylinder refilled and put it back on the camper drawbar. Got to where we were going. Setup and sat down for a coffee. Could smell gas. In the open air. The knucklehead that filled it didn't screw the bleed valve closed enough. Now if that bottle was in an enclosed area we might not have made it to where were going or it might have been the last coffee.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Sunday 2nd of May 2021 11:17:29 AM
Aus-Kiwi said
06:30 PM May 1, 2021
Why they shouldnt be transported in non vented vehicles . A portable plumbers gas heater blew up plumbers van in East Ryde a few years ago . I was first on site . Not pretty . His ladder was blown on roof a block away . All the eaves in street where blown out ! That was with point .9kg . Imagine a 9kg bottle !
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 1st of May 2021 06:33:27 PM
Anybody know where to find Rules/Regs for carrying LP Gas cylinders, or have knowledge of the following.
I followed a camper trailer with 2 x 9kg cyls in holders at the rear, which were completely exposed to impact, I would have thought impact protection would be a mandatory requirement, mind you, it did look like home made holders.
I have not been able to find anything on the www so far that pertained to this particular situation, plenty about being carried in vented areas and not inside and away from ignition sources, but nothing about impact protection.
May I suggest you worry about this instead:
China - Taiwan
Fire NSW - pop them in the car!
State / Territory Act Regulation
Australian Commonwealth Territory Dangerous Goods (Road Transport) Act 2009 Dangerous Goods (Road Transport) Regulations 2010
New South Wales Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Act 2008 Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Regulation 2014
Northern Territory Transport of Dangerous Goods By Road and Rail (National Uniform Legislation) Act Transport of Dangerous Goods By Road and Rail (National Uniform Legislation) Regulations
Queensland (road) Transport Operations (Road Use Management) Act 1995 Transport Operations (Road Use Management-Dangerous Goods) Regulation 2018
Queensland (rail) Transport Infrastructure Act 1994 Transport Infrastructure (Dangerous Goods by Rail) Regulation 2018
South Australia Dangerous Substances Act 1979 Dangerous Substances (Dangerous Goods Transport) Regulations 2008
Tasmania Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Act 2010 Dangerous Goods (Road and Rail Transport) Regulations 2010
Victoria Dangerous Goods Act 1985 PDF: 733 KB ReadSpeaker Dangerous Goods (Transport by Road or Rail) Regulations 2018 PDF: 668 KB ReadSpeaker
Western Australia Dangerous Goods Safety Act 2004 Dangerous Goods Safety Regulations
TPMS on your car & caravan would probably save about 99% of issues.
When was the last time people gave their ABE extinguishers a bash to free up the settled powder.
I have two ABE extinguishers & turn them upside down & knock them together to free up the powder.
I give them a bash more often when we have been on the corrugated roads as this really settles the powder into a solid block. If you have good hearing you can hear the block move.
I cant see the relevance but whatever you're smoking must be good.
Regards
Rob
Blown gas bottles vs tyres probably 1 to 100,000!
Get TPMS, it is mandatory in some countries.
And from the topic title....who knew?
If your caravan is on fire then worry about gas cylinders.
I have actually seen a car go up in flames. It is shocking just how quickly it is before it is too late.
3 fire extinguishers were brought out from shops & not one worked.
Cylinders should always be in upright position and have bung in outlet to be transported in vehicles - unless attached to an approved appliance. Most re-fillers insist on this when bottles brought in for re-filling.
Caught on camera. Had a truck/van transporting gas cylinders inside the back of the van. BOOOOM....Guess what. No more van, no more driver. From what I remember luckily now one else was hurt.
Had a gas cylinder refilled and put it back on the camper drawbar. Got to where we were going. Setup and sat down for a coffee. Could smell gas. In the open air. The knucklehead that filled it didn't screw the bleed valve closed enough. Now if that bottle was in an enclosed area we might not have made it to where were going or it might have been the last coffee.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Sunday 2nd of May 2021 11:17:29 AM
Why they shouldnt be transported in non vented vehicles . A portable plumbers gas heater blew up plumbers van in East Ryde a few years ago . I was first on site . Not pretty . His ladder was blown on roof a block away . All the eaves in street where blown out ! That was with point .9kg . Imagine a 9kg bottle !
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 1st of May 2021 06:33:27 PM