'Stonewall recently hired Morgan Page, a male-bodied person who ran workshops with the sole aim of coaching heterosexual men identifying as lesbians on how they can coerce young lesbians into having sex with them. Page called [this] "overcoming the cotton ceiling" and it is popular.'
The cotton ceiling is the idea that males who identify as 'lesbian transwomen' are discriminated against by lesbians who refuse to consider them as sexual partners. The cotton here refers to lesbians' knickers. That these 'trans lesbians' are rejected as sexual partners is somewhat unsurprising, particularly when one considers the overwhelming majority of males who identify as 'transwomen' take no surgical steps to transition. Yet for trans ideologues, who think transwomen are women, it is the lesbians who are at fault for refusing to sleep with males -- and it is transphobic for the likes of Allison Bailey to complain about this problem.
Does anyone understand the above?
Bobdown said
03:29 PM Jul 28, 2022
If 'he was a she', take a walk on the wild side............got me beat Dorian
86GTS said
03:47 PM Jul 28, 2022
dorian said
04:12 PM Jul 28, 2022
"And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men"
All in the Family - Charles Stouse and Lee Adams
Craig1 said
08:32 PM Jul 28, 2022
Reported today, we " need " 8 or 9 different L B -alphabet flags, because all the symbols do not fit onto one, or there is a disagreement about the design.
LGBTQ+ stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer (or sometimes questioning), and others. The "plus" represents other sexual identities including pansexual and Two-Spirit. The first four letters of the acronym have been used since the 1990s, but in recent years there has been an increased awareness of the need to be inclusive of other sexual identities to offer better representation.
I always thought I was a heterosexual male, end of story, but it turns out I'm also cisgender. Moreover, the notion that your sex could be "assigned" to you at birth, as opposed to simply being born with a particular sex, leaves the door open for human intervention. Who knows what the future will bring?
Cisgender: This term refers to individuals whose gender identity corresponds to the gender associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.
86GTS said
05:00 AM Jul 29, 2022
Mike Harding said
10:28 AM Jul 29, 2022
dorian wrote:
Cisgender: This term refers to individuals whose gender identity corresponds to the gender associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.
Thanks for that. I have been meaning to look it up for about five years :)
DMaxer said
11:30 AM Jul 29, 2022
Nothing like a bit of The Yardbirds, 86GTS. Keith Relf was a fabulous singer. Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton were all members at various times.
Who can forget the guitar work on Heart Full Of Soul.
86GTS said
01:56 PM Jul 29, 2022
Great old blues song by Howlin' Wolf covered by the Yardbirds. A bit male chauvanistic for "these delicate times" though.
The authors refer to "a call for inputs from the UN rights office published last month [Jan 2021], primarily addressed to LGBT groups". They appear to be quoting from some UN document, but they provide no URLs to same.
Where is the UN document? I'd like to read it and interpret it for myself, without religious bias.
I deeply sympathise with anyone who is traumatised by an inner conflict over their own gender identity. I can't imagine what that would be like, although I did get an insight via an ABC documentary about a 10-year-old (?) schoolboy who identified and lived as a girl.
However, advocacy groups like Stonewall behave more like mind control thugs and intimidators, if you believe what some commentators write about them. My impression of them is that they have a modus operandi akin to Scientology.
-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 30th of July 2022 07:08:56 AM
Mike Harding said
07:33 AM Jul 30, 2022
I wonder what constitutes "hate speech"?
Is it perhaps Buzz Lightbulb's definition of abuse ie. "Anything which disagrees with my opinion"?
Interesting catch PT, when I first saw your post I thought it must be a conspiracy spoof but Dorian's link indicate, astonishingly, that it's real! Although I cannot find a report from an established news source?
dorian said
08:18 AM Jul 30, 2022
Mike Harding wrote:
Interesting catch PT, when I first saw your post I thought it must be a conspiracy spoof but Dorian's link indicate, astonishingly, that it's real! Although I cannot find a report from an established news source?
PT's source claims that "the UN rights office's call for input denigrates defenders of life and family who dispute 'gender ideology' as conspiracy theorists". However, there is no reference to "conspiracy" in the "call for input" document ...
That said, the document does appear to unilaterally impose its own view of gender theory on the reader, leaving no room for alternative viewpoints, whether scientifically based or otherwise.
-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 30th of July 2022 08:30:37 AM
"According to woke archaeologists and anthropologists, ancient human remains should no longer be classified as either male or female. Apparently, this is because we do not know how these people would have identified themselves."
86GTS said
11:15 AM Aug 12, 2022
Maybe they could give 'em a poke in the ribs & ask 'em.
Mike Harding said
11:49 AM Aug 12, 2022
I'm getting to (being driven to) the point where if a person does not identify as male or female I'm quite happy using the pronoun "it" which doesn't seem very popular?
Craig1 said
12:44 PM Aug 12, 2022
Mike, possibly because you forget the " SH " prefix
yobarr said
12:59 PM Aug 12, 2022
Craig1 wrote:
Mike, possibly because you forget the " SH " prefix
Nice one Craig! Does the old "Adam's Apple" trick still work? Cheers
Craig1 said
04:12 PM Aug 12, 2022
Dunno, have a mate going to Phucket next week, I will ask him for an opinion
dorian said
05:15 AM Aug 24, 2022
Mike Harding wrote:
I'm getting to (being driven to) the point where if a person does not identify as male or female I'm quite happy using the pronoun "it" which doesn't seem very popular?
Here is a person who looks to be a biological male, but the ABC refers to "him" using "them", "they", "their":
I'm getting to (being driven to) the point where if a person does not identify as male or female I'm quite happy using the pronoun "it" which doesn't seem very popular?
this could be the solution to the climate change thing, if enough people (come out) it could mean a reduction in the population , less stress on the environment. we people who think we are NORMAL maybe the odd ones out
How Allison Bailey exposed the trans lobby:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/27/how-allison-bailey-exposed-the-trans-lobby/
'Stonewall recently hired Morgan Page, a male-bodied person who ran workshops with the sole aim of coaching heterosexual men identifying as lesbians on how they can coerce young lesbians into having sex with them. Page called [this] "overcoming the cotton ceiling" and it is popular.'
The cotton ceiling is the idea that males who identify as 'lesbian transwomen' are discriminated against by lesbians who refuse to consider them as sexual partners. The cotton here refers to lesbians' knickers. That these 'trans lesbians' are rejected as sexual partners is somewhat unsurprising, particularly when one considers the overwhelming majority of males who identify as 'transwomen' take no surgical steps to transition. Yet for trans ideologues, who think transwomen are women, it is the lesbians who are at fault for refusing to sleep with males -- and it is transphobic for the likes of Allison Bailey to complain about this problem.
Does anyone understand the above?
If 'he was a she', take a walk on the wild side............got me beat Dorian
Girls were girls and men were men"
All in the Family - Charles Stouse and Lee Adams
I need a new dictionary.
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-does-lgbtq-mean-5069804
LGBTQ+ stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer (or sometimes questioning), and others. The "plus" represents other sexual identities including pansexual and Two-Spirit. The first four letters of the acronym have been used since the 1990s, but in recent years there has been an increased awareness of the need to be inclusive of other sexual identities to offer better representation.
I always thought I was a heterosexual male, end of story, but it turns out I'm also cisgender. Moreover, the notion that your sex could be "assigned" to you at birth, as opposed to simply being born with a particular sex, leaves the door open for human intervention. Who knows what the future will bring?
Cisgender: This term refers to individuals whose gender identity corresponds to the gender associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.
Thanks for that. I have been meaning to look it up for about five years :)
Nothing like a bit of The Yardbirds, 86GTS. Keith Relf was a fabulous singer. Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton were all members at various times.
Who can forget the guitar work on Heart Full Of Soul.
Great old blues song by Howlin' Wolf covered by the Yardbirds.
A bit male chauvanistic for "these delicate times" though.
I need a wine.
I do too, but I only have it on the weekend.
A wine that is!
Be careful,they are watching you say,
A conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. Interesting twist ...
No conspiracy theory,you will have to be careful. sign of the times.
I found these URLs which both proclaim the UN's intention to create a blacklist:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/un-human-rights-office-prepares-global-lgbt-hate-groups-blacklist/
https://c-fam.org/friday_fax/un-human-rights-office-prepares-global-lgbt-hate-groups-blacklist/
The authors refer to "a call for inputs from the UN rights office published last month [Jan 2021], primarily addressed to LGBT groups". They appear to be quoting from some UN document, but they provide no URLs to same.
Where is the UN document? I'd like to read it and interpret it for myself, without religious bias.
I deeply sympathise with anyone who is traumatised by an inner conflict over their own gender identity. I can't imagine what that would be like, although I did get an insight via an ABC documentary about a 10-year-old (?) schoolboy who identified and lived as a girl.
However, advocacy groups like Stonewall behave more like mind control thugs and intimidators, if you believe what some commentators write about them. My impression of them is that they have a modus operandi akin to Scientology.
https://unherd.com/2022/07/how-allison-bailey-crushed-stonewall/
Edit: Here it is.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/ie-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity/call-input-thematic-report-gender-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity
-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 30th of July 2022 07:08:56 AM
I wonder what constitutes "hate speech"?
Is it perhaps Buzz Lightbulb's definition of abuse ie. "Anything which disagrees with my opinion"?
Interesting catch PT, when I first saw your post I thought it must be a conspiracy spoof but Dorian's link indicate, astonishingly, that it's real! Although I cannot find a report from an established news source?
PT's source claims that "the UN rights office's call for input denigrates defenders of life and family who dispute 'gender ideology' as conspiracy theorists". However, there is no reference to "conspiracy" in the "call for input" document ...
That said, the document does appear to unilaterally impose its own view of gender theory on the reader, leaving no room for alternative viewpoints, whether scientifically based or otherwise.
-- Edited by dorian on Saturday 30th of July 2022 08:30:37 AM
If sex is to complicated,read the manual
Very clever. I was looking forward to a good read, but the magazine covers are all there is.
https://cosmarxpolitan.tumblr.com/
It's getting even more complicated:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/08/10/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-nonbinary-skeleton/
"According to woke archaeologists and anthropologists, ancient human remains should no longer be classified as either male or female. Apparently, this is because we do not know how these people would have identified themselves."
Maybe they could give 'em a poke in the ribs & ask 'em.
I'm getting to (being driven to) the point where if a person does not identify as male or female I'm quite happy using the pronoun "it" which doesn't seem very popular?
Nice one Craig! Does the old "Adam's Apple" trick still work? Cheers
Here is a person who looks to be a biological male, but the ABC refers to "him" using "them", "they", "their":
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-24/warning-from-australian-with-monkeypox-in-germany/101340226
Political correctness is becoming a minefield.
this could be the solution to the climate change thing, if enough people (come out) it could mean a reduction in the population , less stress on the environment. we people who think we are NORMAL maybe the odd ones out
Here's an ever expanding dictionary:
https://www.vmiac.org.au/an-introduction-to-lgbtqia-terminology/
When will it stop?