A resounding NO!!  to questions 1, 2 and 4

Q 3.   Well it certainly isn't Australia is it !!!

Ma and Guru

If we vote him out, who will we get instead?

It would be great to have an honest, loyal polly who remembers where he/she comes from, where they started and have some practical plans for the future of this country.

1. do you think he is doing a good job. Seriously is Abbot capable of any better?
2. do you think he spends enough time in ozz. If I had his job you would never see me, I'd be swanning around the world @ Public expense
3. who is he working for ozz. or some other identity, He is working for his own ego and his own selfengrandisment as are 99% of all politicians and the other 1% are savvy enough to do what they think the electorate wants them to do to get re-elected
4. will you vote for him next time round, is this a trick Question? He won't be around for the next election...

Now that may be a self-fulfilling joke.
The country is battling to provide health, water, housing and power to the population here now, including the illegal assylum seekers. Then they bring in another few thousand to stretch resources even further, to the detriment of the population which has worked it's bum off and made this country what it was until about the year 1995.
Since then it's gone to crap.
Come on my fellow Nomads, let's protest and speak up on every forum we can. Someone has to hear us sooner rather than later.
Our values have been destroyed by self-serving, greedy politicians and executives who grant themselves huge wages and pay rises.
The would-be's need to be told how it really is down on the ground and in the streets, and in particular, how we feel about it. While it's still a free country, let's have a say.
It doesn't matter who hears it, but hear it they will.

Good grief!

Why all this picking on the politicians?

You elected them and allow them to do do what they do.

In any case, it's money interests and religious pressure groups who actually run the country, so perhaps you'd like to turn your venom towards a few of these miscreants occasionally.

Not that I support the lack of morality and ethics of the pollies, but at least you are able to openly criticise them.

I worry more about the clandestine and amoral behaviour of the worlds of commerce and religion whose activities are deemed to be beyond reproach, despite the overwhelming weight of evidence to the contrary.

Now we have political party leaders who espouse the tenets of superstition and mythology that masquerade as religion, as well as talking up economic activity as if it is some kind of magic cure for the ills of society.

Where is the "sapiens" that supposedly distinguishes "homo" from the lesser animals?

Not much in evidence on a day to day basis.

I didn't vote for Kev and his "party". Don't blame me.
At the time I thought it was better the devil we knew, than the one we didn't.
We've gone down hill at a rapid rate in 3 years, give or take a GFC.
Aust has survived better than other countries, but how, when and where?
Can someone fill in the gaps for me please?

Could end up with the kid who lived next door to us, DeBe didn't like him then and didn't like dealing with him while he was climbing the ladder of local politics. He snarls every time this guy is on the tele. A fast young riser through the ranks, watch out here he comes SA's deputy opposition

-- Edited by ElBe on Saturday 12th of December 2009 05:15:18 PM

Cruising Granny wrote:

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If we vote him out, who will we get instead?

It would be great to have an honest, loyal polly who remembers where he/she comes from, where they started and have some practical plans for the future of this country.

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I take it your in my age bracket so I would dare you to name  an "Honest Loyal Polly"  ( could the terms Honest and Loyal in the political  context  be regarded as an original  oxymoron) that served  since we where old enough to vote .  They may start off with that in mind but the party machine will soon  erase that notion   or they will not be there for a second term .  We just have to settle for monitoring the greed factor after their elected

I very much like your post Rolly.....................!! Thanks!!

If there's one thing worse than a politician telling lies it's a politician telling the truth......

Malcolm Frazer is still being pilloried after three decades for saying "Life wasn't meant to be easy" and "There's no such thing as a free lunch"

The nanny-state mob didn't like the first one and the socialists didn't like the second one.

An "honest politician" is an oxymoron..... To get elected a politician has to tell the electorate what it wants to hear, not the truth if it doesn't want to hear the truth (which is most of the time)


-- Edited by jimricho on Sunday 13th of December 2009 09:22:28 AM

I gotta agree with the duck and Ibbo here! as well as the unspoken ones

if we arent willing to go proactive and actively contact and work with our pollies instead of just whingeing about them I cant see the sense in such postings because absolutely nothing is going to change regardless of who's up who and who's counting! to just sit and whinge is tottaly destructive

the only guarenteed outcome is to cause tension and animosity between members as is starting to become apparent here

I am very active with our local member, geoff brock, as well as the premiers office, how many of you not only know your local member (without looking it up) and how many have actively contacted your local member to improve your community, what was the outcome?

become proactive and be a productive member of the community that you reside instead of just sitting here grizzling about them,

I do on a regular basis, I work with our local coppers as well as council to get "things" done and I am glad to say we have gained many positive outcomes

proaction not inaction is the way to change the world we live in

If this topic has achieved anything, it has got us thinking. That in itself is proactive.
Find a dedicated independent to stand, and they can keep the b..stards honest, not bound by party policy.
No matter who is in government, state or federal, shouldn't the policies be in the best interest of the state or nation for a long time into the FUTURE?
Food for thought.

bill12 wrote:

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have you heard the one about Joe Bjelke going to heaven. St Peter say"what did you do in your prior life , my son?" Joe says "I was premier of QLD for 20 years , but 7 of my mimisters went to jail for official corruption and fraud. St Peter is shocked! We known all about you and you won,t be going to heaven- what are you doing here? Joe sticks a big long boney finger up in the air and says"DON,T YOU WORRY ABOUT THAT"

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 ROTFL.... yes..... but you have to remember his wife Flo, leading light in the CWA and her pumpkin scones were superb...
I have her reciepe somewhere, should I post it to lighten the mood?
 And that has solved my dillema as to what to give the geriatrics when they descend for morning tea and afternoon tea which have to be served at EXACTLY 10:30 and 3:30 not a minute either way. SCONES; they luve em withh ooooooodles of flagelated cream and Jam....

Disco happy Forum i wish it was sometimes it depresses me, so much good thing to talk about like traveling most times i find happy hour sad hour most people feeling sorry for themselves . wake up this the luckily country stop feeling sorry for yourself