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my wife elly and i are going to be joining all u lucky folk in about 2 years , sounds a long way off i think it will come around all to fast. our delemar is that we want t buy a duel cab  the only ones that are available are the mits triton and the nissan navara both 2.6 litre. i have spaoken to both company's and they are both confident they will to the job. elly and i would like to find out from any  one out there who may have had the experiance good / bad with either of these vehicals.  {i would prefer the navara} any input would be appreciated greatly   regards littlejohn

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G'day and welcome to the site,
I recently had a look at the Triton , but I also do like the mazda BT50 duel cab, I've had a mazda 2 now for 6 years with out a problem , so have a good look around,its daunting but worth it when you find the right one..biggrin

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Had a look at a triton the other day and I didnt like the long gap between the back axle and the towball ,it looks like there would be a lot of leverage from a van on the back end .

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Hi...i know less than Sargent Shultz on most topics here, thats why i am here, but there is one suggestion i have observed and pass on to you that most certainly i will be following.Rule number 478..... when my time finally comes around first i will buy / order and receive my van before i make a final decision on a tow vehicle.

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Mick themungrel wrote:

Had a look at a triton the other day and I didnt like the long gap between the back axle and the towball ,it looks like there would be a lot of leverage from a van on the back end .




The Triton is an excellent tug, I have one albeit it is a 2007 model which is a 3.2 DiD diesel.  I couldn't be happier with it for power and fuel consumption.

Now, the latest model has gone to a 2.5L DiD but the power and torque are increased so SHOULD tow even better.

However, as Mick has alluded to, this year they have made the tub 150mm longer and 100mm higher, great - more storage room, BUT, it is on the same chassis as previous models so the overhang is greater.  This may be a problem with towing, but is IS a problem for offroading as the departure angle is decreased leading to rear steps being damaged.  Probably would't do too much damage with a good towbar fitted though.

I would suggest you visit www.newtriton.net.au as the guys there are very helpful to prospective buyers of Tritons New or Used.

Cheers Neil





-- Edited by Delta18 on Sunday 24th of January 2010 07:18:51 PM

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Mick, you look different.Maybe the other pic scared evrybody. send th attack dog out to rend all us unbelievers. don,t worry, its just a joke. Bill smile

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Have you considered the Ford Ranger.  All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.

We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier.  Tows like a dream and plenty of power.

We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.

It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.



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When towing, weight makes a difference. how much do you want to tow?I know these new 4wds are supposed to tow 3 tons plus , but I would rather have an old landcruiser or f250 towind a big load than these new cars. don,t get me wrong, its nice to have the power , but weight of the tow vehicle does make a difference.Bill

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When towing, weight makes a difference. how much do you want to tow?I know these new 4wds are supposed to tow 3 tons plus , but I would rather have an old landcruiser or f250 towind a big load than these new cars. don,t get me wrong, its nice to have the power , but weight of the tow vehicle does make a difference.Bill



           Very true , Navara will bend the chassis upwards in the area between the cab & the tub if over loaded with a large van or boat , a speed hump will set this in motion.

 



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Ma wrote:

Have you considered the Ford Ranger.  All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.

We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier.  Tows like a dream and plenty of power.

We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.

It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.



Mate has a Ford Ranger and towed a car trailer with his Mainline Ute out to Mildura and back without a problem , back to 3rd gear up combo hill about 80 kph . hes really happy with it . Mainline is about 2000kg .

 



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any one got experiance with mazda's bt50?

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am told that the Ford Ranger, which we have, is the same as the Mazda Bt50, but with a different badge.

We are extremely happy with our Ranger.

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milo wrote:

G'day and welcome to the site,
I recently had a look at the Triton , but I also do like the mazda BT50 duel cab, I've had a mazda 2 now for 6 years with out a problem , so have a good look around,its daunting but worth it when you find the right one..biggrin



thnx milo for the input  i hadn't even given mazda a thought ... i will from nopw on tho regards

 



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seonau wrote:

Hi...i know less than Sargent Shultz on most topics here, thats why i am here, but there is one suggestion i have observed and pass on to you that most certainly i will be following.Rule number 478..... when my time finally comes around first i will buy / order and receive my van before i make a final decision on a tow vehicle.



i have spoken to a few van mauufactures and most say with alum frame and all the mod cons carrying 400-475 kilos i can get under 2500kls so rule 478 will be stricley adhered to ...

 



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Mick themungrel wrote:

Had a look at a triton the other day and I didnt like the long gap between the back axle and the towball ,it looks like there would be a lot of leverage from a van on the back end .



and i thought this was going to be an easy process no my rear end has to much iver hang only be 6 1nches tho.... good on ya mick ..lol

The Triton is an excellent tug, I have one albeit it is a 2007 model which is a 3.2 DiD diesel.  I couldn't be happier with it for power and fuel consumption.

Now, the latest model has gone to a 2.5L DiD but the power and torque are increased so SHOULD tow even better.

However, as Mick has alluded to, this year they have made the tub 150mm longer and 100mm higher, great - more storage room, BUT, it is on the same chassis as previous models so the overhang is greater.  This may be a problem with towing, but is IS a problem for offroading as the departure angle is decreased leading to rear steps being damaged.  Probably would't do too much damage with a good towbar fitted though.

I would suggest you visit www.newtriton.net.au as the guys there are very helpful to prospective buyers of Tritons New or Used.

Cheers Neil





-- Edited by Delta18 on Sunday 24th of January 2010 07:18:51 PM


 



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Ma wrote:

Have you considered the Ford Ranger.  All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.

We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier.  Tows like a dream and plenty of power.

We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.

It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.



Mate has a Ford Ranger and towed a car trailer with his Mainline Ute out to Mildura and back without a problem , back to 3rd gear up combo hill about 80 kph . hes really happy with it . Mainline is about 2000kg .

 i have given a thought to the ranger and also the hilux they only have 2500 kilos tow capacity and with an 18-20 footer it will be right on the limit no room for error . i was hoping to have al least 500 kilos up my sleeve  thnx ma   how heavy does your  van go as we will alson be looking at  roughly the same size



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Mick themungrel wrote:

 

Ma wrote:

Have you considered the Ford Ranger.  All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.

We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier.  Tows like a dream and plenty of power.

We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.

It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.



Mate has a Ford Ranger and towed a car trailer with his Mainline Ute out to Mildura and back without a problem , back to 3rd gear up combo hill about 80 kph . hes really happy with it . Mainline is about 2000kg .

 i have given a thought to the ranger and also the hilux they only have 2500 kilos tow capacity and with an 18-20 footer it will be right on the limit no room for error . i was hoping to have al least 500 kilos up my sleeve  thnx ma   how heavy does your  van go as we will alson be looking at  roughly the same size



The Ranger if its automatic transmission is limited to 2500kg towing capacity and 250kg ball weight.

Ours is manual transmission and has 3000kg towing capacity and 300kg ball weight. The standard optional tow bar fitted by Ford (as recommended by the salesman to us) is the 2500kg.  We opted for the Hayman Reece tow bar and it cost one third of the price that Ford quoted us for "their" tow bar

Our van, which is a 18.5ft Jayco Discovery, comes in under 2 ton and our tow ball weight, when loaded is 190kg.

The Ranger pulls our van without any trouble, in fact you hardly even notice that it is behind you.

 



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decide on van first then do your homework as to what will tow how much!

as the old saying goes "never put the cart before the horse"

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Ma wrote:

am told that the Ford Ranger, which we have, is the same as the Mazda Bt50, but with a different badge.

We are extremely happy with our Ranger.



Dead right Ma Ford Ranger for me too.6500 kms pulling 1600kg full van from A.C.T. to Gympie and back, all places in between, averaged 12.8 lt/100kms

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bill12 wrote:

When towing, weight makes a difference. how much do you want to tow?I know these new 4wds are supposed to tow 3 tons plus , but I would rather have an old landcruiser or f250 towind a big load than these new cars. don,t get me wrong, its nice to have the power , but weight of the tow vehicle does make a difference.Bill



Bill I agree with you on this , I have heard of 32' 5ers hooked behind jap 4wd's . Unless they have air brakes fitted they would be plated at 4490kg . Looking at triton specs
GCM 5400kg
GVM 2930kg
Kerb Weight (Tare)1992kg
Max towing 2700kg
Max pay load 953kg
Max tow ball 270kg

Toyota Hi Lux
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STD
- Kerb weight (kg)
1780
- Gross vehicle weight rating (kg)
2810
- Gross trailer weight braked (kg)
2250

Toyota dont give a GCM

 

Both of these are a light weight 4wd . I have seen a Hi Lux towing a 28' tri axle van which has a max weight of 3600kg with a tare of round 2800kg . I would hate to be around if they lost it , the weight of the van would just take over .



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