using a generator??

caron · Veteran Member

using a generator??

ibbo · Guru

Hi Caron.I bet you have opened a can of worms up.Be very interesting to read the different replies.Cheers.Ibbo.

brickies · Guru

Hi you can run the silent generator there are two types one solar the other wind types

DeBe · Guru

Hi Caron some you can some you cant. Daryl

milo · Senior Member

all i know is that when a generator is on its noisy , when its off its quiet...lol.... biggrin

-- Edited by milo on Saturday 6th of February 2010 10:38:48 PM

Martin · Veteran Member

no in Victoria
new policy no more warnings
infringement notice straight away.
no grounds for exemtions
same with dogs

dave06 · Guru

it's a no go in every national park that I have been in, heavy fines if caught as well

caron · Veteran Member

so where can I use one??
We want to free camp and intend on buying a Honda silent generator.

dave06 · Guru

most free camps allow it but please use discretion as other campers get a bit grumpy, normally between say 10 in the morning until 3 or 4 in the arvo is acceptable

we pack up and go when confronted by noisy gennys but I have seen a couple of brawls over the use and times of them

have you got the camps Australia book, it outlines most free or low cost campsites

caron · Veteran Member

is there a difference between a noisy one and the silent ones made by Honda??? I am confused.

If I buy a silent one then I expect it not to annoy anyone else!!

Martin · Veteran Member

Caron no engine powered generators are silent
on long service leave saw 3 fights and police called twice over generators. generator users have no consideration for others peace and quiet. generators are the scurge of free camping. buy solar panels and have peace for yourself and others

Ron and Shirley · Senior Member

Caron

In the still of the night out in the bush sound carries a long way and at times you if you are deep in the bush you can hear a pin drop (so to speak).

Many go bush camping not because it is "free", which is a bonus when it is, but to enjoy the sights, smells, and natures sounds in the quietness of the bush.

As Martin said there are no silent generators; some are less noisy than others.

DeBe · Guru

Hi Caron I use a Kipor geny a copy of a Honda, I use it for heating or cooling ( fan heater orAircond) If the weather is at these extremes I tend to camp where no body else is, also found road works gravel dumps extremely good usualy you are on your own & they are generaly cleaner than road side stops, some i wouldnt let my dog out. Not dog faeces but human!!!! Daryl

-- Edited by DeBe on Sunday 7th of February 2010 03:00:59 PM

-- Edited by DeBe on Sunday 7th of February 2010 05:13:16 PM

brickies · Guru

Caron look at why you think you need a generator and look at is there an alternate if there is, is it cost affordable if not buy a generator and learn to fight a bit blunt but thats the case

Popeye · Senior Member

Not wanting to start something here. What if you have to use a CPAP machines at night.What do you do then.A life may depend on it.

jimricho · Guru

Popeye wrote:

Not wanting to start something here. What if you have to use a CPAP machines at night.What do you do then.A life may depend on it.

I've seen a CPAP machine used with a 12v battery/inverter combination. Would need to make sure battery properly charged and would suggest a good quality pure sine wave inverter (to be on the safe side). I don't think CPAP machines draw a lot of current so the inverter need not be a very large one. Check with the machine supplier first.

dave06 · Guru

my B.I.L. and S.I.L. both need the positive ventilation machines (cpap) and they found two that ran on "d" cell batteries, they last nearly a week giving 10 hours per night

if not then a "drink can" type 100 watt inverter would easily do it, dont need pure sine wave as it is simply a small air pump, same as fish pond pump and is not susceptible to current impuritys

biggles · Senior Member

The law said I'm not to use a generator in national park but is it ok to start my car up to charge the caravan batteries & have it running for 2 hours. Do they fine you if you use your car to charge the batteries???????????

jimricho · Guru

dave06 wrote:

my B.I.L. and S.I.L. both need the positive ventilation machines (cpap) and they found two that ran on "d" cell batteries, they last nearly a week giving 10 hours per night

if not then a "drink can" type 100 watt inverter would easily do it, dont need pure sine wave as it is simply a small air pump, same as fish pond pump and is not susceptible to current impuritys

An El Cheapo or "modified sine wave" (a misnomer if ever there was one) would probably be ok with some or maybe even all CPAP machines but if the use of the machine were as critical as the original question implied I'd at least check this out with the supplier or manufacturer and go by their recommendation.

dave06 · Guru

my rellies have had three of different kinds and they were all fine on standard inverters, they then found the battery powered ones and have been happy since, the first ones were run from the small inverter for 5 years

this was discussed a few pages back, all was revealed in there as well!

DeBe · Guru

Well Biggles I recon a lot of diesel vevicles Ive heard start up & left idling for ages early morning make more noise & smell than my Generator

dave06 · Guru

the problem with running your engine to recharge a battery is that you would have to idle at a minimum of 1500 rpm, any less than that and you will be pulling charge out instead of placing charge in, the time factor for a flattish 120 amp battery would run into probably 4 - 6 hours, not something that I would recommend doing

grab another battery and a small solar panel and a 100 watt inverter and everybody will be happy

dave06 · Guru

just as an afterthought on cpap machines and the operation away from power

this website will be very helpful for those needing this machine and still wish to free camp

http://www.cpapaustralia.com.au/shopping/12-volt-battery-cpap.htm

wendyv · Guru

There are some National Parks where you can use a genset in Nt and WA, and there may be some in other states. In 2007 they were allowed in Gregory and Keep River NP's in NT. In the Bungles there are separate generator areas. Likewise at Cape Range NP near Exmouth. Thomas River/Cape Arid NP allowed them in Nat Park section. I am not saying these are the only ones - just those I know of.

Mick themungrel · Senior Member

caron wrote:

Can someone please tell me if we can use a generator in National Parks?? We are looking at the silent ones as opposed to noisy ones.

Thank you

caron there is no such thing as a silent petrol motor , even though people do call them silent . They are well noise insulated by the design of the housing and running on eco mode are quite but run them full bore and you know they are there .

Smokeydk · Guru

Gennys are out .for camping in NPs........try staying in one if you got a chainsaw.....big trouble.......I still say Solar panels are the way to go...