Hi All. We're thinking about the " DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE " signs. I have checked on the legalaties in N.S.W. and are wondering who has them and why. We thought if you turn left and go into the adjacent lane to clear the corner and someone hits you ,your in the clear with these signs attached. Your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated. Havago.
anything over 7.5m should have them..but make sure they are the legal ones
"If you are turning right from a one way street, your motorhome or tow vehicle and caravan / campertrailer is 7.5 m or longer and you have a DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE sign displayed on the back of the motorhome or tow vehicle and caravan / campertrailer, you can turn right from the lane on the immediate left of the far right lane. When making a right turn, make sure you have reached far enough into the intersection before starting to turn into the street. If you turn too soon, the side of your rig may hit vehicles on your right as the back of your vehicle cuts-in to the turn."
make sure the sign is on the rear left if smaller type
7.5 meters is right , consider a small tinnie of 3 mts plus trailer and the tug and your over the 7.5 mt rule Most box trailers and a standard tugs also exceeds the 7.5 rule
When approaching a roundabout to turn right I move into the right lane and straddle the lane lines which according to the highway patrol I am allowed to do if displaying the signs also works when you approach a egg sized roundabout , which we specialize in here in NSW, and I want to go straight through without mounting the kerb . Most coppers don't bother but there is always the Mr Peel out there looking for a posting to another area. Seeing how most people approach roundabouts it's a wonder there isn't a lot more accidents I am sure a lot of older drivers have never taken the time to read the rules for entering a roundabouts Some still think the give way to the right still applies . Had one last week do a right hand turn around the roundabout the wrong way, was displaying VIC plates so we let him go for it
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It's not just entering roundabouts, but exiting them as well. No one seems to know how to use indicators either. Giving way to the right still applies at roundabouts wherever I've been. How else would you enter a roundabout? Sometimes the size and layout of the intersection requires oversize to negotiate the intersection on the right side of the roundabout instead of going all the way around. Pilot vehicles would manage traffic to ensure everyone gets the message and is safe. We do what we can, but there are some bone heads out there.
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My understanding is when approaching a roundabout the person who has entered the roundabout has the right of way . To determine who is there first is taken as the person who has crossed the dotted line and is now technically within the kill zone. As for exiting the same roundabout the person on the roundabout is permitted to wander/ steer into the left lane while on the roundabout. As for using blinkers to enter of leave a Roundabout in NSW the rules book actually states that where "reasonably practicable" hence the entire topic of blinkers on roundabouts becomes a judgement call for each individual driver. Roundabouts in most of suburban NSW are the size of a fried egg and are merely a bloody hindrance to smooth traffic flow. Blinkers in NSW are like rear view mirrors they are regarded by most as optional extras or fashion accessories considered by most drivers as adding nothing to road safety in the slightest . Take note next time you follow a young Mum with kids, the mirror is normally aimed into the back seat so she can watch the kids not what's coming up from the rear ,
We talk about standardizing road rules. Well ! Good luck with that , get four road ministers in the same room and you have four opposing points of view and no one wants to be the first to blink . I don't envy Granny doing her job in all the various states. After a week on NSW roads I wouldn't be able to tell if I was homicidal or suicidal.
PS. Just to confuse the issue the road marking also plays a big part in what a driver is permitted to do when entering a roundabout . I just give up and take my turn when I feel it's safe. The NSW road rules are full of judgement calls rather that mandatory procedures and some are never repealed just added to so the confusion reigns supreme, no wonder the traffic courts are always full on contested situations .
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In simple terms, if you have a long rig with the sign and need to take up part of the next lane to turn right or left you can do so legally, without it you are breaking the law and can be booked, Rod
Hi All. Thanks again for your feedback. What type of signs did you go for? As far as roundabouts are concerned - no offense - but with some drivers it is the size of the bullbar that determines who goes first. I know you are NOT included in them as, being on this forum, you are responsible drivers. Can I still stay on the forum? Pleeeeeeeeease. Havago.
You also must remember that even though you have right of way as you have fitted your "Do not overtake"signs...not everyone WILL give way to you. So it is better to be safe and not have a collision even though it is NOT your fault. Too much hassle !!
In simple terms, if you have a long rig with the sign and need to take up part of the next lane to turn right or left you can do so legally, without it you are breaking the law and can be booked, Rod
100% correct Rod.
Depending on the roundabout, when I do need more than my lane I straddle the lines and keep a watchout that some other road user does not squeeze up the side. EG. Motor cycle. One has to be real carefull to avoid a collision as they are costly even if you are in the right.
Dodg.
-- Edited by Onedodger on Tuesday 19th of July 2011 03:26:26 PM
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Hi All. We're thinking about the " DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE " signs. I have checked on the legalaties in N.S.W. and are wondering who has them and why. We thought if you turn left and go into the adjacent lane to clear the corner and someone hits you ,your in the clear with these signs attached. Your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated. Havago.
EG. Motor cycle. One has to be real carefull to avoid a collision as they are costly even if you are in the right.
Hi all, Question 2 : What type and size signs do you have on the back of your vans?
