Ask for it's electrical approval number& to what Standard I doubt that they will tell you that it complies to the requirements of AS/NZS 3001.for use with "Transportable structures"
NOT approved for outdoor use!
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all their website says is "compliant with Australian standards"
I didn't look at packet to see what is on it
I was just curious in light of the many discussions about leads / joiners etc as to where this one stands
could it possible be approved for any use ??
brian
I agree with oldtrack, its not for outdoor. I would be treating it the same way as I treat double adaptors. I march them into the bin. Sorry about that, stuff like that can be a problem as the two branches wont carry 10 amps each..
As oldtrack says it needs an approval number.
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As an electrician, I would not use a device like that as it has the potential to easily overload the supply power point by 100% if taken to the limit of the potenial of thIs lead.
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Allthough I have to agree with other posts on this subject I will add my two bobs worth, when we had Our new farm workshop wired we had a hard time getting the electrician to put in enough power points as he said the circuit couldn't handle it, now as his point of view was technically correct we had to point out to him that as there is only one of me I am not capable of using the welder at max amps while also using three angle grinders, two lathes, the bench grinder, two power drills and the power hacksaw all at the same time I just want them plugged so I can put one down and use the other one without having to Unplug and plug in every item when I do want to use it
So if the intended use is simply to plug in the phone charger n laptop at the same time you will never over load this lead
Just my opinion
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I agree with oldtrack, its not for outdoor. I would be treating it the same way as I treat double adaptors. I march them into the bin. Sorry about that, stuff like that can be a problem as the two branches wont carry 10 amps each..
Allthough I have to agree with other posts on this subject I will add my two bobs worth, when we had Our new farm workshop wired we had a hard time getting the electrician to put in enough power points as he said the circuit couldn't handle it, now as his point of view was technically correct we had to point out to him that as there is only one of me I am not capable of using the welder at max amps while also using three angle grinders, two lathes, the bench grinder, two power drills and the power hacksaw all at the same time I just want them plugged so I can put one down and use the other one without having to Unplug and plug in every item when I do want to use it So if the intended use is simply to plug in the phone charger n laptop at the same time you will never over load this lead
Just my opinion Woody
In the past the number of outlets was limited by rules in the Standards of the day .
What is referred to as a "diversity factor" was used to determine how many could be fitted on a circuit& dependent on cable size
That applied to power outlet sockets, lights, etc
And Under current rules , more are allowed provided the circuit overload protection does not allow you to overload the wiring.
The basis being, that if you do connect too many the OLCB will trip & protect the wiring
Each outlet is automatically protected by the connected appliance/ device having a suitable rated plug for the device's rated current draw
That is why some have 10A plugs & those with a higher current draw SHALL have a higher rated plug
The size of socket /plug combination sets the current limit on THAT outlet..
Double adapters & the one shown have no current limiting and nothing stops a 2 x10A [total 20A]load being connected to the 10A socket outlet overloading it by 100%
or even worse piggy backing one on top of the other
Most experienced electricians will have seen the evidence
Very high fire risk if not in the short term, certainly in the long term due to cumulative overheating .
One of the very good reason that multi outlet power boards NOW require an inbuilt 10A overload cutout
Hi Woody and Sue. Thank you for the common sense answer, it gives me some hope for Australians. However I have decided to leave the grey nomads site as I find a lot of answers not designed to be helpful and some downright rude . Anyway as I reach for the off switch lighten up some of you 10 double adapters are fine if you don't over load them. That's an exaggeration I know but true. Cheerio all, travel safe. Woody46
I have a splitter cable like that plugged into an inverter in the tray. Laptop on one outlet and phone/iPad charger on the other. It's only a 300 Watt Modified Square Wave inverter so no chance what so ever of overloading the lead.
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Hi Woody and Sue. Thank you for the common sense answer, it gives me some hope for Australians. However I have decided to leave the grey nomads site as I find a lot of answers not designed to be helpful and some downright rude . Anyway as I reach for the off switch lighten up some of you 10 double adapters are fine if you don't over load them. That's an exaggeration I know but true. Cheerio all, travel safe. Woody46
Woody, no need to leave mate, the question was simple to answer for the many fellow sparkies on this forum. The simple message, that a lot of folks ignore, is "DONT MESS WITH ELECTRICITY" get sound advice from a good sparky. BTW I can NOT agree about any double adaptors without some sort of protection. Sorry mate..
Take care and be safe.
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I seem to remember similar leads when I bought computers from auctions about 15 years ago. They all had approval tags on them, and also check tags. Power wise I guess they would use about 600 or 700 watts with computer and crt together. Most of the computers were ex government.
Ok I'm going to have another say on this one we have a son who is an electrician and he works in wa on oil n gas
He is always on about safety and I 100% agree! I won't play with 240v power full stop, well ok I have replaced a three pin plug on a power lead but even that I don't enjoy but some times I can't wait for him to come home to do it,
anyone who would use this style of lead on a high load is a complet idiot and we are all probably better off with them out of the gene pool anyway
This in my humble opinion is far better that the old hard double adapter I just don't like them either, as others have stated , now for christ's sake they are most likely from China probably unlikely to be rated properly for anything more than a 3/8 drill so if your only looking to use it as a phone charger and laptop Lead then I can't see it being over loaded by them, but I am not a sparky so have no qualifications to back this up
Having said all that I completely understand the stance taken by the ex sparkies on here and believe that their statement is indeed absolutely correct and they should not be belittled for the post as their post is offered in good will and with your safety in mind and may they continue to offer their thoughts and opinions in here same as I just have and others have
ok I'm rambling on a bit now but I hope you all get the drift
Woody
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Not that power boards are apsolute legal. But out of weather they are 1000 times better than these leads . It's so easy to plug a toaster and frying pan on each plug . Why not stop here and add another ? Ok ? If new van it possibly has 10 amp breaker . But who's to say it isn't going to be used on 10 amp lead ?
