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I hate the night


Does anyone else not like the dark hours much (particularly the solo ladies)?. 

Here I sit in the middle of nowhere - I'm usually always alone in every free camp I go to - I think I'm alone again tonight - so I just lock down and make sure no lights etc can be seen. It doesn't stop me sleeping or anything, but I'm always glad for the morning light and to know I've 'made it through the night' lol. Im not overly scared.....but it's just a bit disconcerting. I'd have kittens if anyone knocked or was out there. 

Bring on the morning!! 

 

 



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You have to have the right bumper stickers, like "National Rifle Association" or "Sporting Shooters" stickers, should keep away the unwelcome ....lol......Rick



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Just have a recording of a BIG dog or dogS barking.
Any suspicious noises.
Play it through large speakers.

Have a CAT for a companion (much betterer)

Me. I LOVE it alone.
just don't camp within 20km's of buildings\towns \PUBS.

If I can see traffic on the road I just turned off.
Get a little further away.

Basically. If YOU can't see them. Theoretically.
THEY can't see you.

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If you want privacy and want to hide.

That rig (if yours) Is a little big for that.

There are plenty of travellers going sans parks nowadays.
Unless you going real lonely places.
There should be people in most that are designated "overnight"

IF you are, lonely places. get a baseball bat. gruff voice
and stay out of the light.
IE.... Get used to it.
It ain't too bad after first 30 yrs or so Chuckle.

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That's a great idea Rick.
I am usually tucked away where no one can see me, yes, rig is mine Macka, I get it in some crazy places lol. Yesterday I nearly got stuck lol. I just had to take a photo of my wheel tracks manoeuvreing it around for a laugh. I get as far away from seeing and hearing the traffic. Traffic noise drives me spare!!!
What are sans parks?
I do love it alone. I rarely see other people in any sites. This one I'm in ATM, I wouldn't know unless someone got game enough to drive back further than I have. I'm usually first in and last to go, so I often don't know what goes on up the front. I've got a dog barking app lol. Like I said though, I think I'd have kittens if I actually heard anything. The other night I had a bag rustling outside in the wind and I thought it was footsteps lol. No pets for me regretfully as I'm allergic to them all.
The only times I've actually had any troubles in 5 years of travelling has been in caravan parks, so I much prefer it out here but I'm just always happy when it's light again.
So many horrible clouds today, it's almost still dark lol.



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Wow Grubbygypsy, I love it alone in the bush at night..........................just don't watch "wolf creek"!

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Large size MENS clothing ? Lol

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I think someone suggested once before about putting a pair on large men's boots outside your door.

Else sleep all day and stay awake at night lol.

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Í have spent a lot of my time out bush. Grew up in western NSW. Always felt at "home"" Have spent a lot of time in QLD over the last 10yrs. To me, the QLD bush is quite unsettling. Maybe its the different night sounds.(curlews)
There is certainly a greater chance of encountering some unfriendly animals. Crocs, pythons. dingos. Its not the human species that worry me though.

I find myself putting my dog out for her final business just on dark and there is no way I will open the door until first light. Even if I am in a crowded free camp. (which is good news for those of you who hate wizzbangers)



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I'm just glad it passes quickly (while I'm sleeping). I do love it (the bush) it's just the humans that have the potential to be there and up to no good that enter my mind at times. I guess it's just the time between dark and bed. Like I make sure all generator tasks are complete prior to then, so I don't have to go out again. I certainly never sit out there - but that's as much insects as anything else.
I don't leave anything at all identifying outside, leave them guessing I say - and I don't tell ppl on the road (such as randoms at service stations) that I'm alone or where I'm headed (usually not far lol). When I pop out of the bush in the morning, people are often more surprised to see me I think.
I don't watch scary movies - well....I do read and watch murder stuff.....I think the more I read (like I just read the inquest into a little baby's death in the NT) the more disturbing it gets knowing there are humans out there that are capable of terrible acts.
As we saw recently though, it can happen in broad daylight too (that frootloop killing that guy in the territory). I guess it's just more comforting to be able to see lol.
A lot of the stuff you hear has been people engaging with people too. Luckily, I'm a bit of a snob you could say, so I don't talk to people just for the sake of making conversation. And if they're remotely strange, I'm not there to humour them or make them feel better about their day. There's no way I would of been chatting to that person at that rest stop that killed that guy (you can't tell me he would have been presenting rationally), or the dude that raped the woman on the beach or the guy that attempted to murder the girls camping with him.
I do rarely see anyone, just day to day, so the chances someone stumbling across me and something happening are pretty remote I'd say.
But I still like daylight better.




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Yes....those curlews sure sound like someone being murdered lol.


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Interesting reading Grubby. I tend to think the same as you and take similiar precautions.
Not outside after dark, everything packed away in case, in camp no later than 4pm usually.
Luckily Daisy Dog doesn't need to go out again from dusk to dawn.
I love the out of the way places and being the only one there. So peaceful.



-- Edited by Happywanderer on Wednesday 18th of January 2017 02:28:30 PM

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Up until about 6 years ago, I lived in Nw of WA. The long trip down to Perth took 2 big days of driving. There were very few places that welcomed dogs on the inland road, so I used to pull off onto a track somewhere just before dark. Usually it was somewhere between Meekatharra and Mt Magnet. The only precautions I took were to turn around ready to take off, leave the keys in the ignition and lock myself in. (the car). It was dark, very quiet but in many ways I felt safer there than in a dodgy van park because no one knew I was there. Although I did sleep, it was always a broken sleep...cars aren't the most comfortable for sleeping and when you go to sleep at 8pm you just can't sleep through til daylight. It was always good to be on the road again in the morning and daylight was always welcome.



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Hi.
Maybe if you "blended a bit" you may get to be not so touchy,
City Person?.
Most country\bush\sailors. Loooove the solitude.

I was a single hander sailor all my life.
Others were welcome.
On Other people boats thank you.

I had a 6.5 mtr Roadstar offroader.
PLUS ....... a large winch.
Over the 14 yrs I think I actually "needed" it 3 or 4 times.
(Whoops, Maybe I shouldn't have come in here.. hmmm)

You going those places. GET A WINCH... even second hand
and rebuild it.
the one time you do. you'll be VERY grateful it's there.

LARGE WORN... Boots is a usual.
But put some large. Smelly socks in\over them too.
Go to Vinnies and get shirt. Jocks socks boots
ALL XXXX sizes. Washing line by door..

The small touches. etc.

I'm a shooter from old school.

DO NOT carry or show ANY weapon, Under any circumstances.

UNLESS YOU... Are 100% willing to use it.

The next person that has it taken off them and used against them..
Will NOT be the first.

If anything.

Go to cattle\Feed store.
and buy a Short, "cattle Prod"
Those f----s make a man jump, believe me.

But not much use against multiples of,
for the normal civilised person.

"Sans" meens NO Parks.

Only thing I can recommend if really, or getting that way. nervous.

Buy a 4wd Camper truck. (IE Isuzu? with motorhome on back.
That way as said.
Park it pointing the right way. and just turn key and go.

Find another single hander. and buy him a pint. cuppa. whatever.
And TALK to him\her.
Maybe, some will rub offon you if you explain.
DOn't be proud. Most are nervous at start.

I was born with BIG bombs popping off around me every day.
I spent a lot of my young years inside your own skin being invisible.
Came with the times.

Solitude is great....Company on your terms. sometimes.

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Blend? With who? Lol....I seriously never see anyone. When I went out to the bins yesterday there was 3 other lots at least. I do not sit around the road in amongst the rubbish and poo - for anyone lol. Yuk. I'd said on another post I can't understand why people don't head out the back of these stops. Most are feral and disgusting in the main site, but quite pristine the further you get away. The upside of that too is criminal types are lazy....they won't venture far away from where the masses are either.
I've done this for 5 years (this time) now...so far from newbie - and not a city slicker AT ALL (hate the joints). In fact, I'm on high alert most of the time if I'm ever in cities. Once again....the feral crims hang out in those places for the easy pickings.
I find it's always the first night somewhere that makes me feel like it - last night was ok. It's probably just a natural instinct from cave man, nomadic times actually......keep you ready to flight or fight in a place that's unknown. It's not that I'm scared...like I said....it's just the night is disconcerting- although it's my best chance of being rid of traffic noise - so for that I love the night.
Yes NH - caravan parks are the only times I've run into any trouble.



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@ GG
I've always had a bad feeling about that van park at Meekatharra, not to mention that its on the main road with traffic noise. Just recently a lady got attacked in the showers there at night time. My instincts aren't often wrong.
If I pull up somewhere and there are others there, I always check out my nearest neighbours and introduce myself. They're probably just as concerned as I am. Also, I've met some great people like this. NH

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..... the right bumper stickers, like "National Rifle Association" or "Sporting Shooters" stickers, should keep away the unwelcome ....lol......Rick


 Stickers like that just tell the bad people to shoot first so they don't get shot up.   Even worse the more isolated the camp.

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Grubbygypsy wrote:

Does anyone else not like the dark hours much (particularly the solo ladies)?. 

 


 Probably close to Lotto odds the chance of bad things happening in the night.   Maybe camping up earlier and gathering a few fellow travelers for company might be more comforting.

Concern for your safety in the night, is, of course, a good thing and appropriate.   Even with big strong me by her side, the partner sometimes expresses her concern in those out of the way camp sites.

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@ GG
I've always had a bad feeling about that van park at Meekatharra, not to mention that its on the main road with traffic noise. Just recently a lady got attacked in the showers there at night time. My instincts aren't often wrong.
If I pull up somewhere and there are others there, I always check out my nearest neighbours and introduce myself. They're probably just as concerned as I am. Also, I've met some great people like this. NH


 

Yes....that was shocking that.......I was in Cue at the time and was going up there the next day!! (Bloke at the CP never uttered a word of warning you know...which I was a bit miffed about - they didn't end up selling gas though, so I didn't go up). 

At first I thought it was a common situation from up there....but then I heard the circumstance.....yuk!!!! Horror! 



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Izabarack wrote:
Grubbygypsy wrote:

Does anyone else not like the dark hours much (particularly the solo ladies)?. 

 


 Probably close to Lotto odds the chance of bad things happening in the night.   Maybe camping up earlier and gathering a few fellow travelers for company might be more comforting.

Concern for your safety in the night, is, of course, a good thing and appropriate.   Even with big strong me by her side, the partner sometimes expresses her concern in those out of the way camp sites.

Iza


 Hehehe....couldn't get in any earlier - Im always last out and first in lol. Today I was parked up by around 10am.

I rarely see people - well for the last 8 months or so anyway. Maybe that'll change as I get further into heavier populations. I also notice people are obviously reluctant to go away from the road for some strange reason. I also think that people have spent that much time whinging about people camping near them, that people are too scared to go within cooee of anyone else. Some people pulled up here before, but must of just been for lunch, because they took off after a while - I call myself 'the camp clearer' lol. 

Good point about the shooting sticker. Didn't think about it from that angle. 

 

 



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In the past life we had an agreement about things,,,

the first was to yell  XYZ WAKE UP GET THE SHOTGUN QUICK if in REAL danger. Yell it again and say hurry hurry.

They will immediately think there are 2 people and skip off in 99.999999% of cases.

 



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I hate certain areas at night. Cross bred dingos howling, riverbanks up north, Adder country, and any where a dog breaks loose and drags a chain, nightmare material from watching Deadly Ernest as a kid! Other than that, the Aussie bush is safe, unless you walk around at night in bare feet, leave your shoes out for something to crawl into and forget about drop bears or camp in the middle of a circle of grass trees and forget to put the saucer of milk out for the snakes!

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Hi Peter

I noticed you wrote your post at 3.30am - still not sleeping well?  I think I would be a bit nervous if a situation arose where I had to leave a caravan to reach the tug.  That's one reason I bought a motorhome, and I feel quite safe free camping away from populated areas.  No amount of advice is likely to make you feel better but the probability of being attacked in the bush are way lower than anywhere else - but watch out for those boxing kangaroos and drop bears!

Your mention of Deadly Ernest brought back memories for me - staying up late on Saturday nights (alone) as a kid, getting scared silly but loving it.  The good old days.

Enjoy Australia Day

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Thanks Wild1, The Big One I hate, have always hated as I experienced as a young child and recently on Kangaroo Island is the near lightning strike. The one where your hairs stand up and you hear the zzzztttt, as best as I can describe it, just before the light and then then the deafening noise as the bolt hits or leaves the ground. Both were within 25 metres! So I don't like being in thunderstorms either.

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Thanks Wild1, The Big One I hate, have always hated as I experienced as a young child and recently on Kangaroo Island is the near lightning strike. The one where your hairs stand up and you hear the zzzztttt, as best as I can describe it, just before the light and then then the deafening noise as the bolt hits or leaves the ground. Both were within 25 metres! So I don't like being in thunderstorms either.


Yep agree/ you know it's close when is sizzlesssssss.

Lived in Malaysia in early 80's and the power lines in front of house glowed blue hue and high tension wires 100m away melted and hung on the ground and a huge transformer went bang about 50m away.

Some close ones in Darwin to after 25 years there.

 

 

 



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I had one scary night, alone and very visible under a full moon. I woke to hear footsteps around the van. Much relief when I peeked out and spotted the culprits - a family of feral pigs!!

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Pigs, they scare me in daylight. In pig country, I leave nothing out in the way of food, dirty dishes, garbage or even a porta pottie! I have seen one eating a live lamb and the lamb was still alive and the pig was at the kidney stage! Lamb and pig dispatched by property owner in that order! Hate them.

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Men's clothing and boots outside van an absolute must. Man's old hat with fishhooks in band on dash of tug. Nothing attractive to ferals on display in tug.
Always, repeat always have a can of Raid Wasp Killer next to door - will stop any intruder/s man or beast in their tracks. It can be used at a safe distance (7 meters). www.raid.com/en-us/products/raid-wasp-and-hornet-killer-33 look at solutions video.
Don't be forgetful and leave tool or any equipment outside that may be attractive to ferals, or be used as a weapon against you.

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Grubbygypsy wrote:

I guess it's just the time between dark and bed. Like I make sure all generator tasks are complete prior to then, so I don't have to go out again. I certainly never sit out there - but that's as much insects as anything else.

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I am saddened to hear you say that. You have a right to feel, and be, safe.

Please don't misunderstand what I am about to write, I offer it not as a judgement upon you but as my observation of people in general.

Some individuals are predators or bullies or simply bad and nasty. These people have an ability almost to sense those who are afraid of them and they will exploit that knowledge if they can.

I know this is easier to say than to do but the response to these people is to not be afraid of them but to channel that fear into anger. Anger because they have the f****** audacity to believe they have the right to intimidate others and, invariably, only those they perceive as weaker. If you can generate this level of anger within yourself they will sense that too and be fearful of you because the very last thing they want is a victim who may fight back like an alley cat. A victim who understands they may well be hurt in the struggle but who is damned! if they will be a passive victim!

I suggest you purchase a small folding knife which may be opened by centrifugal force, something like this:

https://www.anacondastores.com/camping-hiking/equipment/knives-tools/gerber-stl-drop-point-fine-edge-single-blade-knife/p/BP90033219

And keep that in your pocket at all times - such a knife is very useful around camp and if you need to protect yourself it will help to even the odds. You may suffer damage but, by God, you can make them sorry they ever set eyes upon you.

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The problem with Knives of any sort is that they can be wrested from you and used against you with severe/fatal consequences - Unless a master in hand to hand combat this is possibly a very dangerous option.

Let's face most of us are getting on a bit and although we still think ourselves six feet tall and bullet proof - could you go a round or two with a 'roid raged street hood?

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