Size for do not overtake turning vehicle singes

landy · Guru

Size for do not overtake turning vehicle singes

Possum3 · Guru

NSW regulation regarding sizes is OK Australia wide. You should also display corner decals at rear bottom corners of van. www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/~/view/regulation/2014/758/part11/div3

Mariner30 · Senior Member

Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway

If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.

They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.

Cheers,

Peter

yobarr · Guru

Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway

If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers

A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM

landy · Guru

yobarr wrote:

Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM

Yobarr could you please give ma a link to the government sight you mentioned as I haven't brought it up in any of my searches. I want to be legal but I think .125 square meters is far to big for the back of our van. Cheers Landy

outlaw40 · Guru

here you go .
www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf.
Read it carefully. you must use the correct sign and position it correctly . lots of those ebay signs are not correct as they dont have the very small writing at the bottom stating the details of the reflective material used etc

yobarr · Guru

landy wrote:
yobarr wrote:

Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM

Yobarr could you please give ma a link to the government sight you mentioned as I haven't brought it up in any of my searches. I want to be legal but I think .125 square meters is far to big for the back of our van. Cheers Landy

Hi Dave....unfortunately I know nothing about links etc,but Steve seems to have pointed you in the right directio. You need the 100x300 size,I believe.Cheers

Possum3 · Guru

I also gave legislation link in my post www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/~/view/regulation/2014/758/part11/div3

rockylizard · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size doesn't matter anyway
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter

Gday...

[EDIT: apologies to Outlaw ... jest noticed you had provided the pertinent link earlier hmm ]

It would have been simpler if a link to the relevant Vehicle Standards Bulletin (VSB) was provided to the OP.

This link gives the facts -

https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf

Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -

It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.

May be fitted
These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates:
any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM
any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM

Must not be fitted
Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.

Rear Sign 01.JPG

Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.

Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.

Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM

landy · Guru

Thank you all for your information and links I must work on my search skills as you have come up with info that was alluding me
Cheers Landy.

yobarr · Guru

rockylizard wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size doesn't matter anyway
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter
Gday...
[EDIT: apologies to Outlaw ... jest noticed you had provided the pertinent link earlier ]
It would have been simpler if a link to the relevant Vehicle Standards Bulletin (VSB) was provided to the OP.
This link gives the facts -
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf
Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -
It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.
May be fitted
These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates:
any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM
any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM
Must not be fitted
Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.
Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.
Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.
Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM

yobarr · Guru

rockylizard wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size doesn't matter anyway
If you display them at all, they MUST be the approved design.
They have legal implications for both the driver and for other road users.
Cheers,
Peter
Gday...
[EDIT: apologies to Outlaw ... jest noticed you had provided the pertinent link earlier ]
It would have been simpler if a link to the relevant Vehicle Standards Bulletin (VSB) was provided to the OP.
This link gives the facts -
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/files/201806-0849-vsb12-national-code-of-practice-rear-marking-plates.pdf
Because it seems most do not click on links to be fully informed, I provide the following pertinent extracts from that site -
It is a regulatory requirement that marking plates be placed on the rear of certain motor vehicles and trailers in order to improve their visibility and to provide the DO NOT OVERTAKE TURNING VEHICLE warning to other motorists. This bulletin identifies the types of plates that can be used, where they are placed on the vehicle and the methods for installing them.
May be fitted
These vehicles may be fitted with rear marking plates:
any motor vehicle less than 12 tonnes GVM
any trailer less than 10 tonnes GTM
Must not be fitted
Vehicles or combinations with a combined length of less than 7.5m must not be fitted with the do not overtake turning vehicle message.
Despite the extracted info above, take the time to actually read the complete VSB and know the rules - particularly the table shown above.
Knowing the legislation is preferable than the hear-say one gets from a forum's participants.
Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Thursday 18th of April 2019 12:25:10 PM

Hi John......would you be kind enough to point out where in this thread you found.... quote.....The hearsay one gets from a forums participants? All the advice given appears to be factual.Cheers

dogbox · Guru

yobarr wrote:

Mariner30 wrote:
Do you really need them legally anyway?? If not, the size dosen't matter anyway
If your unit is 7.5 metres,or more,long,you may display them if you wish,but if your vehicle needs to straddle lanes or turn from an adjacent lane in order to turn left or right at intersections,and it is 7.5 metres,or longer,you MUST display the sign Do not overtake turning vehicle. Cheers
A quick internet search shows that the minimum legal size us 300mm x 100mm?? Not interested in a debate,but that is what I found on a Govt site,and it is a national requirement.There are apparently 3 different classes of vehicles and signs,and I would expect that the .125 of a square metre would apply to those large signs you see on the back of semis etc ?..Cheers

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:38:21 PM

-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 17th of April 2019 08:42:10 PM

-- Edited by dogbox on Thursday 18th of April 2019 04:19:01 PM

rockylizard · Guru

yobarr wrote:
Hi John......would you be kind enough to point out where in this thread you found.... quote.....The hearsay one gets from a forums participants? All the advice given appears to be factual.Cheers

Gday...

Getting a bit sensitive, Yobarr? confuse

Who said I was referring to this thread?

Simply a comment that locating and understand the actual legislation, regulations and laws is always better than asking questions of members of a forum.

Cheers - John